WWI Digest 311 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: membership roster. by Erik Pilawskii 2) Re: Musik while modelling? by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 3) Re: DML Fokker Wing by Sandy Adam 4) Re: Questions of the Week by Graham Nash 5) Re: membership roster. by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 6) Re: Re[2]: Reference Material by "Valenciano . Jose" 7) Re: DML Fokker Wing by "Valenciano . Jose" 8) Aircraft photos by Paul Silbermann 9) Re: Aircraft photos by aew (Allan Wright) 10) Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 by t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) 11) Re: DML Fokker Wing by t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) 12) Re: Hanovern colours. by jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 13) Spoiled 1/48 scale guys by SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov 14) Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 by Rob 15) Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 by "Peter Kilduff, University Relations, 2-1791" 16) Re: Tools by Rob 17) Re: membership roster. by "Shelley Goodwin" 18) Re[2]: by "Shelley Goodwin" 19) Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 by Sandy Adam 20) Re: Spoiled 1/48 scale guys by Sandy Adam 21) Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 by Rob 22) Re: Spoiled 1/48 scale guys by Don Rinker 23) Re: DML Fokker Wing by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 24) Richthofen Print (ADV) by SOPWITH@worldnet.att.net 25) Re: Eduard Sopwith Pup cowling by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 26) Re: Richthofen Print (ADV) by Don Rinker 27) Re: membership roster. by roger belanger 28) Sunday, 29 October 1916, Paris by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 29) Re[4]: Reference Material by "Shelley Goodwin" 30) Re: Aircraft photos by "Shelley Goodwin" 31) Re[2]: Aircraft photos by "Shelley Goodwin" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:55:22 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: membership roster. Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, roger belanger wrote: > Is there any such thing as a members roster so we can getto know each > other better???. The mdoel RR group have one w/ a brief profile and it > is updated periodcally Roger b. > -- Roger, the closest thing on this list is kept up by the venerable Master Scale hero, Matt Bittner. I brief 'ask' to him might be in order. BTW, did I catch wind that you were *another* Seattlite? > [..better than passing wind...] Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: AND, NOW, FILMS SO EPIC, THEY IT SAID IT COULD'T BE DONE: "Wuthering Heights", in Semaphore Code! "Julius Caesar", on the Aldis Lamp! .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:46:37 -0800 From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Musik while modelling? Message-ID: <199610290746.XAA27797@bing.ncw.net> >Grieg's Peer Gynt is always a great choice for modelling. Works best for >European theatre- forget Palestine. But Rimsky-Korsakov's "Scheherezade" >(sp?) fit's the desert quite well. As does the Lawrence of Arabia soundtrack...Or "Shahen Shah" by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - a 700 lb. Pakistani with a strong resemblance to Jabba the Hut, singing 'Qawwali (don't laugh too hard - he recently did part of the soundtrack for "Dead Man Walking", with Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam). Wierd stuff, but it works for me... >Then again, as mentioned before, no one beats Wagner for that blasting >grandeur and "sweeping of empire". Just my input... "It's not over 'til the fat lady puts on the lozenge!" Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:24:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi Subject: Re: DML Fokker Wing Message-ID: Steady on there Dave! On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > Dip it in cold after straightening in hot > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:33:51 -0800 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Re: Questions of the Week Message-ID: <199610291036.AA16471@egate.citicorp.com> Shelley Goodwin wrote: > Snip > 3. Has Windsock covered the obscure but shapely Albatros G.III in a > plans feature? Anyone have any suggestions for a plans reference, such > as the Harleyford book? > > Inquisitively, > > Riordan No one's seemed to pick up on this, but according to my database, there are no plan references for this type, which only seems to have appeared in the following books: Book Publisher Author Aircraft of World War I Ian Allen Kenneth Munson Reconnaissance and Bomber Aircraft of the First World War Harleyford W.Lamberton German Aircraft of the First World War Putnam Thetford & Gray Illustrated Encyclopedia of Aircraft Orbis Chant & Morse (Ed) (Part Work in 204 Parts/18 Volumes) I think you will find that each of them show them same picture, so get one, get 'em all. Perhaps M.Digimeyer (?) could do the honours as he did for the De Bruyhre C1 in Windsock Vol 12 issue 1., or perhaps someone else has the software and reference. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:57:33 EST From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi Subject: Re: membership roster. Message-ID: <19961029.055509.4447.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:19:26 -0500 roger belanger writes: > Is there any such thing as a members roster so we can > getto know each other better???. The mdoel RR group have > one w/ a brief profile and it is updated periodcally Roger > b. As the extremely-intelligent Erik has mentioned, I maintain a database of all list member's that want to be on it. I could type out what it is, and everything like that, but since it's five-fricken-a.m. - and I'm lazy - I'll just say "read the FAQ". Everything about the db is described in there. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:16:39 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Re[2]: Reference Material Message-ID: Hi Rob, thanks for all the good info. There's hope for us boondok dwellwers yet. On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Rob wrote: > 1. Wherever possible, mail the book itself when largish sections are > needed. Copy right only applies to the making of copies. > 2. When scanning or photocopying, always send the minimum necessary > material--a page rather than a chapter or article, a chapter rather than a > book. If only info. is needed, send loose paraphrases or notes > instead of copies. This is completely safe. > 3. If possible, do complete scans only on out-of-print works. While > the revision of US copyright law obscures the requirement, copyright > holders have to keep a work available as a condition of keeping their > monopoly. They should still bear some responsibility for > keeping a book in print if they intend to enforce their rights > in court. > > NEVER ship or scan brand-new, hot-topic, readily available-in-stores > books, like new Windsocks. That would be asking for trouble. > > 4. Scan books only for those who can't get the physical volume by > mail. > 5. Send books only to those who cannot get it locally by > Interlibrary Loan or a reasonable purchase (shipping isn't > cheap, after all). > 6. If we do scan a whole book, include an agreement that the scan is > not to be kept after research is complete and that no other scans > will be sent out during the "loan" period for the book. This > way, we could always argue that the scan was no different than an > interlibrary loan. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:06:07 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: DML Fokker Wing Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Charles A. Duckworth wrote: > Does anyone have a formula for straightening the top wing on the DML Fokker > D.VII? I tied the wing to a piece of metal last night and left it in 'almost' > boiling water for a half hour and then let it cool, after undoing the wire it > sprung back to the original curved state? Weird problem, since no one has replied yet, I will. You'll need: 1) Tap with running water 2) sheet of flat glass longer than the wingspan 3) metal pincers 4) masking tape 5) pan of boiling water a) Put masking tape on the pincer's tips to serve as insulation from the heat b) Hold the wing in the center with the pincers c) Dip the wing, leading edge down, into the boiling water. Dip only 3/4 into the chord, leaving the trailing edge out of the heat. d) Swirl the wing around gently for about 10 sec. e) Remove wing and place it quickly face up on the glass. f) As you hold the wing down by the tips, immediately put it under the running water. g) If that doesn't work, increase the time in the boiling water by 5 sec. I've cured all my wings (including 4 DML Fok D.VII) in this manner. Good luck! ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 07:29:52 EST From: Paul Silbermann To: Subject: Aircraft photos Message-ID: <199610291228.HAA02576@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Riordan writes: I will attempt to attach some of them to messages in the future. While I like the sentiment, I would suggest that you *not* attach image files to list messages they tend to be largish and people whose email accounts are billed by attach time or file transfer size get socked with an unexpected bill. Or (alternately) people with limited storage for email suddenly have an overflowing inbox and an irate service provider. (This topic just came up on another list. This has nothing to do with the fact that my email client here handles graphics and other attached files by hitting them with a large virtual hammer and displaying the splattered bits as characters...) Paul Paul Silbermann National Air and Space Museum nasgrb17@sivm.si.edu Archives Division **************These opinions are mine, not NASM's************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:03:03 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Aircraft photos Message-ID: <199610291303.IAA02738@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > A few days ago my better half, in the process of building a page for > her online business subscribed to ArtToday (arttoday@rtd.com), a > copyright-free image 'bank'. She invited me to nose around after she > was done, and y'all just wouldn't believe the treasure trove of over > 50 images that I found, including an Italian Bleriot in Tripoli, > aerial shots of Albatrai, Nieuports and Guynemer & his AC to Nieuport > monoplanes w/floats, Caudrons, period magazine illustrations and > crashed German two-seaters with unfortunate crew strewn about the > wreckage. These images may be familiar to some of you, but it's the > first time I've seen most of them, and I've done my share of lurking > in libraries. I brazenly pillaged and cataloged most of these images, > with the exception of the famous Rickenbacker in front of his SPAD and > several others that were not particularly enlightening. I will attempt > to attach some of them to messages in the future. For $9.95 this is a > real bargain for 1 1/2 days of access to this resource. Besides the > WWI aviation there're Lots of other unusual images to look at as well. > Note:I have no commercial interest in ArtToday. Better to arrange something with me than to post them directly to the list. I can put them up on the WWW page for people to get as they wish. I can set up anonymous FTP for you to push the pict to me or just e-mail the pictures to me - my account can handle it. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist. University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:05:19 -0800 From: t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) To: wwi Subject: Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 Message-ID: <199610291305.FAA07249@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> Peter wrote: > Hauptmann Oswald Boelcke, commanding officer of Jagdstaffel 2, was >killed while chasing a British fighter airplane over Pozieres. Peter, what kind of a/c was Boelke flying when he was killed? Tom -- Tom Eisenhour t_eisen@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:22:47 -0800 From: t_eisen@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Eisenhour) To: wwi Subject: Re: DML Fokker Wing Message-ID: <199610291322.FAA02140@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> >>Does anyone have a formula for straightening the top wing on the DML Fokker D.VII? I tied the wing to a piece of metal last night and left it in 'almost' boiling water for a half hour and then let it cool, after undoing the wire it sprung back to the original curved state? I find that the boiling water approach is too hard to control. (Shane, care to elaborate?). I've had success with the "hot air" method. Simply tape the wing flat to a 1 x 4 board (I use that white artist's tape - leaves no residue) and hold it up to the TV during political ads. ;-) Actually, use a blow dryer cranked up all the way. Keep it moving. Important tip: leave the wing taped down while it's cooling off so it can "set". Let us know which approach works for you. Good luck! Tom -- Tom Eisenhour t_eisen@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:48:05 -0500 (EST) From: jsthorn@clt.mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Re: Hanovern colours. Message-ID: >Pete wrote: >> >>I've just been though this site and, I've got a few questions for anyone >>out there. >> >> ii) Do you have any details for a Hanover in any colour >> schemes other than "Lozenge" I'm afaid I'm beaten when it comes >> to Lozenge on a fusalage (and nearly so when on the wings) >> especially in 1/72 and would rather do something besides the >> Hanover prototype.(the plane looks good in mauve, green and >> light blue) As a student I try and do things on the cheap. This >> usually means I try and steer clear of difficult schemes that >> require those (very) expensive (well they are here in Australia) >> Microscale/ Pegasus/ Eduard decals. This also means that the >> subject can sometimes be a bit borring. Get the Datafile. Roland built CL IIIs were finished in overall light blue. Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:12:00 -0500 From: SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov To: "(u)wwi" Subject: Spoiled 1/48 scale guys Message-ID: <0033000001750936000002*@MHS> Geeeez!!!!! You 1/48 scale characters are sooooooooooooo spoiled!!! Here we 1/72 scale weiners are *STILL* struggling with all those ancient Airfix and Revell things while you guys are lavished upon by the likes of Eduard, Aeromaster, Glencoe, Dragon/DML, blah blah blah...! Just gimmie a decent 1/72 Albatros D.III (not OEF)..... Steve H. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's my list (in 1/48 plastic): 1. A Halberstadt D type 2. Albatros D.II (I don't mention the D.III as it is coming from Eduard--yes!) 3. A Phonix D type 4. A later Albatros C type 5. Sopwith Camel (where is it, DML?) Ships--BC's and BB's--would also be welcome. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:35:07 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 Message-ID: <9610290828.aa28695@scosysv.speechsys.com> Thomas Eisenhour asks > Peter, what kind of a/c was Boelke flying when he was killed? Wasn't it an albatros D.II? Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:40:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Peter Kilduff, University Relations, 2-1791" To: wwi Subject: Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 Message-ID: <961029104012.22aad674@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> Yes, Boelcke was killed in an Albatros D.II ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:45:00 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Tools Message-ID: <9610290838.aa28850@scosysv.speechsys.com> roger belanger writes: > If you get a dremel motor tool be sure to get a speed control to go > withit , makes it easier to control the speed because too much speed > generates a lot of heat and the heat will deform the plastic you are > working on or make any holes that you drill a lot larger than you > wanted I see the logic of this, but I have long used Dremels without variable speed (a one-speed and a two speed). Just don't stay in one place very long and apply the tool with a light touch. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 21:25:54 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re: membership roster. Message-ID: <9609288465.AA846570274@mx.Ricochet.net> Roger, As yet there isn't one, but it's a ripping good idea as it would help those of us with absent minds to tell Tom and Dick from Harry. This will be critical once the archive is up & running. Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: membership roster. Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/28/96 7:19 PM Is there any such thing as a members roster so we can getto know each other better???. The mdoel RR group have one w/ a brief profile and it is updated periodcally Roger b. -- ROGER BELANGER A job worth doing is a job worth doing well ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 20:34:00 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Message-ID: <9609288465.AA846570262@mx.Ricochet.net> Mike, Any additional info on markings for Polish Hannover? Did it have simple or bordered (modernish) checkerboards? What about numbers on the fuselage/rudder? Was this a FABRIC feature in Windsock? I'm assuming these 'planes were used against the Soviets c.1920... Inq, Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/28/96 8:07 PM At 08:54 PM 10/28/96 -0500, Peter Mitchell wrote: >I've just been though this site and, I've got a few questions for anyone >out there. > > ii) Do you have any details for a Hanover in any colour > schemes other than "Lozenge" I'm afaid I'm beaten when it comes > to Lozenge on a fusalage (and nearly so when on the wings) > especially in 1/72 and would rather do something besides the > Hanover prototype.(the plane looks good in mauve, green and > light blue) As a student I try and do things on the cheap. Peter I had received from Jim Lynum on this list some nice Polish schemes. Basically a solid green body, clear doped wings and Polish checkerboard at the usual spots. I did one and it looks nice. Easy, simple cheap, as requested! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:11:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi Subject: Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 Message-ID: > Thomas Eisenhour asks > > > Peter, what kind of a/c was Boelke flying when he was killed? > Wasn't it an albatros D.II? There's a nice dramatic illustration of the two Albatri and the 24Sq DH2 in Joseph A Phelan's book "Heroes and Aeroplanes of the Great War 1914-1918" (US) - English edition published as "Aircraft and Flyers(sic) of the First World War" by PSL (1974). I don't know how accurate some of the colour schemes are but the drawings really catch the feel of the subject - Jean Navarre's victims wings seem to be trying to scrabble the occupants away from his gunfire! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:17:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi Subject: Re: Spoiled 1/48 scale guys Message-ID: > > You 1/48 scale characters are sooooooooooooo spoiled!!! > Here we 1/72 scale weiners are *STILL* struggling with all those > ancient Airfix and Revell things while you guys are lavished upon by > the likes of Eduard, Aeromaster, Glencoe, Dragon/DML, blah blah > blah...! > > Just gimmie a decent 1/72 Albatros D.III (not OEF)..... > > Steve H. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yup, bet you wished you had the Aurora Albatrosssss and would just give your eye teeth for the fabulous Glencoe DIII to be scaled down two thirds to 1/68 scale. Mind you maybe the Glencoe fuselage top would fit the standard kit then? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:23:25 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Jasta 2: Saturday, 28 October 1916 Message-ID: <9610291116.aa01482@scosysv.speechsys.com> Sandy Adam writes: > There's a nice dramatic illustration of the two Albatri and the 24Sq DH2 > in Joseph A Phelan's book "Heroes and Aeroplanes of the Great War > 1914-1918" (US) - English edition published as "Aircraft and > Flyers(sic) of the First World War" by PSL (1974). This was one of my first WW1 books and remains a great favorite. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 16:59 EST From: Don Rinker To: wwi Subject: Re: Spoiled 1/48 scale guys Message-ID: > > Geeeez!!!!! > > > > You 1/48 scale characters are sooooooooooooo spoiled!!! > > Here we 1/72 scale weiners are *STILL* struggling with all those ^^^^^^^ You said it, not us :-) Seems like "whiners" rather than weiners ;-) (running away very fast............ ) Silver Hill Historic Aviation | Documentation - Photography 4051 Ivy Lane | Research - Specialty Paints Easton, PA 18045 | Antique Instrumentation ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:39:03 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: DML Fokker Wing Message-ID: <1996Oct29.065414.1155.767240@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Joey, thanks for the formula on straighting the wing. Will 'cook until tender' this weekend. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:39:39 +0000 From: SOPWITH@worldnet.att.net To: wwi Subject: Richthofen Print (ADV) Message-ID: <19961029233937.AAA19508@LOCALNAME> For those of you that collect limite edition prints there will be a new print by James Dietz featuring Richthofen's DRI. I'll send more details once we seen the print. It's suppose to retail for $135.00 US. Pre-order prior to November 11 and we'll take 15% off and free postage. Juan @ Sopwith (305) 665-5730 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:59:49 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Sopwith Pup cowling Message-ID: <1996Oct29.171742.1155.768040@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> I am in the middle of building the Eduard 1/48 Pup and have the fuselage under construction (added the 'V' vent behind the engine and cut out the aft fuselage area to access the tail skid construction) my question to the group is; has anyone noticed the metal cowling is not flush with the metal panels on the sides. The cowling in my kit appears to be about scale 2" too wide. Did you 1) remove material from the metal cowling using emery paper or 2) add material to the plastic fuselage? Photos and plans show the cowling and metal access panels to be almost flush fitting. Did anyone else run into this problem. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 19:33 EST From: Don Rinker To: wwi Subject: Re: Richthofen Print (ADV) Message-ID: > > For those of you that collect limite edition prints there will be a > >new print by James Dietz featuring Richthofen's DRI. I'll send more details > >once we seen the print. It's suppose to retail for $135.00 US. Pre-order > >prior to November 11 and we'll take 15% off and free postage. > > > > Juan @ Sopwith > > (305) 665-5730 > > Is this the new Dietz print called " The last word" that was featured on the cover of Over the Front earlier this year? As I recall it shows Von R. standing in front of the Dr-1 shortly before leaving on his final misson. Silver Hill Historic Aviation | Documentation - Photography 4051 Ivy Lane | Research - Specialty Paints Easton, PA 18045 | Antique Instrumentation ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:29:01 -0500 From: roger belanger To: wwi Subject: Re: membership roster. Message-ID: <3276A14D.384@concentric.net> Erik Pilawskii wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, roger belanger wrote: > > Is there any such thing as a members roster so we can getto know each > > other better???. The mdoel RR group have one w/ a brief profile and it > > is updated periodcally Roger b. > > -- > Roger, the closest thing on this list is kept up by the venerable Master > Scale hero, Matt Bittner. I brief 'ask' to him might be in order. > BTW, did I catch wind that you were *another* Seattlite? > > > [..better than passing wind...] > > Cheers, Erik > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > AND, NOW, FILMS SO EPIC, THEY IT SAID IT COULD'T BE DONE: > "Wuthering Heights", in Semaphore Code! > "Julius Caesar", on the Aldis Lamp! > ............................................................................. Yes , I have been for a number of years . Rober B -- ROGER BELANGER A job worth doing is a job worth doing well ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:11:24 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Sunday, 29 October 1916, Paris Message-ID: <3276E37C.5FFA@host.dmsc.net> Rainy in a.m. but fair in p.m. and clear by night. Went to Holy Communion at Amer. Church at 8:30 a.m. Wrote to Mrs Wheeler. Went over to get Helen Harper at 11 to dine with Major and Mrs Parker & myself. Capt and Mrs Boyd also present. Capt Boyd is attached to the Embassy. At 5 o'clock tea with Helen and some of her friends at her home. Met David King--a former Legion fellow there, nice chap. Dined with Parkers in evening and took walk downtown alone later. Ran across Mr & Mrs Guerquin. Will see Mr G. tomorrow. Saw some of the fellows in the Chatam. ************************* from the diaries of E.C.C. Genet, Escadrille Lafayette ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 18:33:13 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[4]: Reference Material Message-ID: <9609298466.AA846646488@mx.Ricochet.net> Matt, If you have the Pfalz E-types Datafile, would you mind copying/sending me any data on Mid-East service, such as the Sinai campaign of 1916? I'd be very grateful, as it looks like I'll be putting together a little something for Insignia magazine. Also, if anyone has any reference material on the Ottoman air force not contained in C&C or the Osprey Men-at-Arms book, please let me know. YT, Riordan______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Reference Material Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/28/96 10:34 PM On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:31:55 -0500 "Brian Bushe" writes: > It may be more convenient to us 'old-worlders' (and third > worlders like Australians) to have a library of > references, rather than an actual reference library. for > instance I would love a simple way of looking up articles > (such as a database search) on eg Hansa Brandenberg W29's > so I would mail a request and be told what articles exist > (eg datafile no. x, scale models x 19xx, whatever book pgs > x-xx) and maybe where to find some of those references. > If i can get it through an interlibrary loan in the uk > good. if not maybe a few photocopies from another source. I was thinking of volunteering, however... This would be great to exploit the new web technology. Imagine a site you can go to so you can type in your query to the database, and your response would come back with little to no time to wait. It could also be that the site would be "password protected", so if we're really paranoid, we could only only access to those "regular" list members. If you want an example of the software I'm talking about, email me privately - especially if you're serious and want to do this. I'm also willing to let those who want to do it access to my database. > Unfortunately there would have to be an unsung hero who > creates a database of all these things. I am still more than willing to let people know of what's in my database. When I see a specific request for a specific type of subject, I do tend to send what I have in my collection - via my database - to the list. I still see myself performing this function. So, when you're interested in a specific type, email it to the list, or myself, and I'll see what I can do. It won't be instantanous, but you will get the information. In case you're wondering what I have, I have all Windsock (vol 1 through 4 are copies); all Datafiles; all but vol 3 of OtF; some C&CI; some C&C; and plenty of books. I am more than willing to "share the wealth". Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 18:25:02 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re: Aircraft photos Message-ID: <9609298466.AA846646479@mx.Ricochet.net> Paul, Please forgive my techno-ignorance and thanks for setting me straight. I am still learning the limitations of these machines when I get carried away by enthusiasm. I'm going to risk an off-topic question about the dreaded 109. An acquaintance at work has dreams of building a scale Messerschmitt he can fly. What would be the most economical way of obtaining plans for such a project? Sincerely, Riordan______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Aircraft photos Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/29/96 5:28 AM Riordan writes: I will attempt to attach some of them to messages in the future. While I like the sentiment, I would suggest that you *not* attach image files to list messages they tend to be largish and people whose email accounts are billed by attach time or file transfer size get socked with an unexpected bill. Or (alternately) people with limited storage for email suddenly have an overflowing inbox and an irate service provider. (This topic just came up on another list. This has nothing to do with the fact that my email client here handles graphics and other attached files by hitting them with a large virtual hammer and displaying the splattered bits as characters...) Paul Paul Silbermann National Air and Space Museum nasgrb17@sivm.si.edu Archives Division **************These opinions are mine, not NASM's************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 18:01:09 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Aircraft photos Message-ID: <9609298466.AA846646450@mx.Ricochet.net> Al, That sounds ducky, but my wife questioned the ethics/legality of publishing these images. Perhaps I should get permission from ArtToday? Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Aircraft photos Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/29/96 6:11 AM > A few days ago my better half, in the process of building a page for > her online business subscribed to ArtToday (arttoday@rtd.com), a > copyright-free image 'bank'. She invited me to nose around after she > was done, and y'all just wouldn't believe the treasure trove of over > 50 images that I found, including an Italian Bleriot in Tripoli, > aerial shots of Albatrai, Nieuports and Guynemer & his AC to Nieuport > monoplanes w/floats, Caudrons, period magazine illustrations and > crashed German two-seaters with unfortunate crew strewn about the > wreckage. These images may be familiar to some of you, but it's the > first time I've seen most of them, and I've done my share of lurking > in libraries. I brazenly pillaged and cataloged most of these images, > with the exception of the famous Rickenbacker in front of his SPAD and > several others that were not particularly enlightening. I will attempt > to attach some of them to messages in the future. For $9.95 this is a > real bargain for 1 1/2 days of access to this resource. Besides the > WWI aviation there're Lots of other unusual images to look at as well. > Note:I have no commercial interest in ArtToday. Better to arrange something with me than to post them directly to the list. I can put them up on the WWW page for people to get as they wish. I can set up anonymous FTP for you to push the pict to me or just e-mail the pictures to me - my account can handle it. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist. University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 311 *********************