WWI Digest 308 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Fokker D V111 by roger belanger 2) Re: Questions of the Week by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 3) Re[2]: Questions of the Week by "Shelley Goodwin" 4) Re: Musik while modelling? by NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) 5) Re: Re[2]: Questions of the Week by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 6) Re: Questions of the Week by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 7) Re: Musik while modelling? by "S.M. Head" 8) Re[2]: Questions of the Week by "Shelley Goodwin" 9) Re[4]: Questions of the Week by "Shelley Goodwin" 10) Re: Musik while modelling? by Sandy Adam 11) Thursday, 26 October 1916, Cazaux, Bordeaux by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 12) Friday, 27 October 1916, Paris by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 13) Pegusus review-- Alb.DV by Erik Pilawskii 14) Re: Fokker D V111 by NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) 15) Re: Musik while modelling? by Erik Pilawskii 16) Re: Re[2]: Introduction by Rob 17) Re: FSM Top 5 by john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) 18) RE: Eduard Albatros D.V by Shane Weier 19) Re: Fokker D V111 by "Leonard Endy" 20) Re: Re[2]: Questions of the Week by "Valenciano . Jose" 21) Re: Re[4]: Questions of the Week by "Valenciano . Jose" 22) Re: Fokker D V111 by "Valenciano . Jose" 23) Re: Fokker D V111 by roger belanger 24) Re: FSM Top 5 by roger belanger 25) Re: FSM Top 5 by Don Rinker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:13:40 -0400 From: roger belanger To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker D V111 Message-ID: <32727F04.7444@concentric.net> KENNETH L HAGERUP wrote: > > -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.1 ] -- > > Roger wrote, > > > I am a little new to the art of ww1 airplane model building in the > meticulos > > fashion the the members of the group build and would like to become > as > > accomplished as most . I am going to start the D V111 I would if > anyony has > > any suggestions as to what if any modifications I should make to the > Edouard > > 1/72 kit . Are the Lozenge pattern colors right that come w/ the kit > . I will > > appreciate any help that anyone can offer . I have a modelers profile > odf > > myself in the Dec. 96 Finescale Modeler for those of you who do not > know me . > > I enyoy all of your messages and learning about the aircraft . Roger > Belanger > > First, congratulations on the FSM profile. Super work! It's good to > see another ship modeler on the list. > > I have several of the Eduard D.VIIIs and am midway through my first one. > I covered the inside of the fuselage with Americal's reverse lozenge. > Easy to do, and adds a lot to the finished cockpit. There are already > a few things I'll do differently on my second D.VIII. The fold together > cockpit should really be constructed from tubes vice flat photoetched > parts, but the result looks good. I folded mine before painting - the > next one I'll paint first, then fold. This should make it easier to > paint the throttle and compass. The foot rails can be left unpainted. > The screen behind the pilot's seat can be covered in lozenge, as can the > seat. Be careful with the decals - they are commendably thin, but > fragile. I trashed the first set of cowl decals and had to raid a > second kit (hence my quest for non Jasta 6 schemes). The kit's lozenge > colors seem off to me. Without opening up the lozenge color debate, > pick the upper and lower four color lozenge that appeals to you. I used > Aeromaster, because I had some and I liked the colors. Some D.VIIIs had > the undercarriage wing painted the same color as the struts instead of > covered in lozenge. The guns were less trouble than I anticipated -I > used a drill bit to roll the cooling jackets into a cylinder. Sill have > the engine to complete and the wing to be decaled and installed. There > isn't much rigging, but the control cables need to be installed. > > Good luck with you D.VIII. > > Ken > > > > -- > > Kenneth Hagerup > 11419 South 43rd Avenue > Omaha, NE 68123-1073 > USA > > npwe28a@prodigy.com > > hagerupk@j5.stratcom.af.mil De4ar Ken , thanks for the information , I will try yiour suggestions they sound good to me .I was thinking that if you can glue or solder dome detail associates round brass stock of the correct size and glue it to the cockpit frame to simulate tube look okay . What do you think it might take care of the flat look. Roger B -- ROGER BELANGER A job worth doing is a job worth doing well ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:06:00 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Questions of the Week Message-ID: <199610270306.XAA02186@ns1.ptd.net> At 01:08 PM 10/26/96 -0400, Shelley Goodwin wrote: > 2. There was mention of a Sopwith Camel book that listed the fates of > nearly every serial number. Anybody have this book? Riordan The book is called the Camel File. It has all the serial #s, who flew the plane, and the fateof the craft. It also has some god pictures and a nice section on markings(albeit, not too long). Not the sort of book you "read" but one you use for reference. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 96 21:12:43 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Questions of the Week Message-ID: <9609268463.AA846389530@mx.Ricochet.net> Mike, If you have the book, would you look up a few names/#s for me? I'm looking for the serials for Collishaw's, Kinkhead's and Aten's Camels that they flew in Russia. I've a couple of clues-Aten mentions in his memoirs that he flew #27. Also, in Squadrons of the Royal Air Force, a 'representative serial' for #47's Camels during the Russian campaigns (1919) is given: F6396. These aircraft were apparently flown in Salonika up to the end of WWI. TIA, Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Questions of the Week Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/26/96 8:04 PM At 01:08 PM 10/26/96 -0400, Shelley Goodwin wrote: > 2. There was mention of a Sopwith Camel book that listed the fates of > nearly every serial number. Anybody have this book? Riordan The book is called the Camel File. It has all the serial #s, who flew the plane, and the fateof the craft. It also has some god pictures and a nice section on markings(albeit, not too long). Not the sort of book you "read" but one you use for reference. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 96 From: NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) To: wwi Subject: Re: Musik while modelling? Message-ID: <199610271625.MAA31426@mime2.prodigy.com> -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.1 ] -- Scott wrote, > Grieg's Peer Gynt is always a great choice for modelling. Works best for > European theatre- forget Palestine. Can't help but mention that Grieg's full name is Edvard Hagerup Grieg. :-) Ken -- Kenneth Hagerup 11419 South 43rd Avenue Omaha, NE 68123-1073 USA npwe28a@prodigy.com hagerupk@j5.stratcom.af.mil ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:42:39 -0500 (EST) From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Re[2]: Questions of the Week Message-ID: <199610271642.LAA26848@ns1.ptd.net> At 12:14 AM 10/27/96 -0400, > If you have the book, would you look up a few names/#s for me? > I'm looking for the serials for Collishaw's, Kinkhead's and Aten's > Camels that they flew in Russia. I've a couple of clues-Aten mentions > in his memoirs that he flew #27. Also, in Squadrons of the Royal Air > Force, a 'representative serial' for #47's Camels during the Russian > campaigns (1919) is given: F6396. These aircraft were apparently flown > in Salonika up to the end of WWI. > > TIA, > Riordan I'll send you some of this after I copy it. As far as those 3 pilots are concerned: Collishaw: F6396....i Albatros shot down; Kinkead(they don't use an h after the k): F1955...two Nieuports shot down; No listing for any pilot named ATEN. think I saved you address and will send copies of the info, including some very brief histories this week. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:14:10 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Questions of the Week Message-ID: Shelly Goodwin asks: > 1. Any company still manufacture an aftermarket prop/spinner for 1/48 > Pfalz D.III? If not, anyone got one to trade/sell? How difficult is this to scratch build ??? Just carve a suitably shaped piece of wood, balsa will do, and crash form it through a piece of heat softened sheet styrene. Trim to fit your prop. Cheaper (and probably faster) than waiting for some aftermarket part, which I don't think exists. If you like your results, you could start your own aftermarket line. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:46:47 -0500 From: "S.M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: Musik while modelling? Message-ID: <9610271211.aa06696@mail.iapc.net> >-- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.1 ] -- > >Scott wrote, > >> Grieg's Peer Gynt is always a great choice for modelling. Works best >for >> European theatre- forget Palestine. > >Can't help but mention that Grieg's full name is Edvard Hagerup Grieg. >:-) > >Ken > Does this mean we have more than one Mad Norseman on the list? ;-) Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 96 10:00:43 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Questions of the Week Message-ID: <9609278464.AA846443050@mx.Ricochet.net> Charles, Already tried to build up a spinner from Heller 109B leftover and scrap plastic; the canted slots are what killed it. Glencoe kits take long enough without me making fumbling attempts at heat-forming plastic, especially when Ive already scratched the engine once & the exhaust manifolds twice, extensively corrected the fuselage & wings, sawed the middle out of & ground the wheels, thinned the interplane struts, and made accurate cabanes, intake manifold & rudder. At this point, I am willing to spend the extra few $ just so I may proceed without messing with it. Exasperatedly, Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Questions of the Week Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/27/96 10:05 AM Shelly Goodwin asks: > 1. Any company still manufacture an aftermarket prop/spinner for 1/48 > Pfalz D.III? If not, anyone got one to trade/sell? How difficult is this to scratch build ??? Just carve a suitably shaped piece of wood, balsa will do, and crash form it through a piece of heat softened sheet styrene. Trim to fit your prop. Cheaper (and probably faster) than waiting for some aftermarket part, which I don't think exists. If you like your results, you could start your own aftermarket line. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 96 10:03:58 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[4]: Questions of the Week Message-ID: <9609278464.AA846443059@mx.Ricochet.net> Mike, Thanks. If I ever find a decal sheet of RAF serials, I can model these guy's 'planes. Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Questions of the Week Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/27/96 9:40 AM At 12:14 AM 10/27/96 -0400, > If you have the book, would you look up a few names/#s for me? > I'm looking for the serials for Collishaw's, Kinkhead's and Aten's > Camels that they flew in Russia. I've a couple of clues-Aten mentions > in his memoirs that he flew #27. Also, in Squadrons of the Royal Air > Force, a 'representative serial' for #47's Camels during the Russian > campaigns (1919) is given: F6396. These aircraft were apparently flown > in Salonika up to the end of WWI. > > TIA, > Riordan I'll send you some of this after I copy it. As far as those 3 pilots are concerned: Collishaw: F6396....i Albatros shot down; Kinkead(they don't use an h after the k): F1955...two Nieuports shot down; No listing for any pilot named ATEN. think I saved you address and will send copies of the info, including some very brief histories this week. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 19:44:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Sandy Adam To: wwi Subject: Re: Musik while modelling? Message-ID: On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, S.M. Head wrote: > good dirge in the form of Karl Orf's "Carmina Burana" seem's right to me. Wrong war - you may be interested to know that Carl Orff was a dedicated member of the Nazi party and wrote many of his works in the thirties with the official blessing of the Nazi elite. Everybody associates Hitler's musical tastes with Wagner, but in fact he stated his own favourite piece of music to be Carmina Burana and it was performed countless times in his honour. Kinda changes your mind about the piece doesn't it. I'm a singer and found this info out just before taking part in a performance which I found almost impossible to enjoy. To this day, I believe the piece has never been professionally done in Israel. > > Then again, as mentioned before, no one beats Wagner for that blasting > grandeur and "sweeping of empire". Just my input... Give Bruckner 7 a try - only problem is I try to conduct it with a modelling knife in my hand!!! - guess how many blood-red triplanes (and everything else) I've got by now? Cheers. Sandy. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:55:35 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Thursday, 26 October 1916, Cazaux, Bordeaux Message-ID: <3273F677.20C4@host.dmsc.net> Worked a little in a.m., showers. All four of us received 5 days leave which means we don't have to enter Pau until Nov 1st. Bid farewell to Captain & school and all left in middle of p.m. Got to Bordeaux at 6 o'clock and wandered around city until 10:30 train for Paris. Paid no fares at all and got by in 1st class on our surete papers. Didn't get a wink of sleep all night and stood up most of the way. ********************** from the diaries of E.C.C. Genet, Escadrille Lafayette ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:59:02 -0800 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Friday, 27 October 1916, Paris Message-ID: <3273F746.3B1D@host.dmsc.net> Arrived at Paris at 8 a.m. Rainy most of day. Went to Hotel Roosevelt. Saw Major Parker and did shopping all rest of a.m. Bought shoes, leggings, etc., called on Miss Mooney and had luncheon with her and talked with her in early a.m. Then got dressed and went to dine at the Harper's. Met them and found Helen is one mighty sweet, attractive little girl. Mrs H. is nice also. Then to motion pictures with them after dinner. ***************** from the diaries of E.C.C. Genet, Escadrille Lafayette ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:31:50 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: ww1 mailer Subject: Pegusus review-- Alb.DV Message-ID: Pegasus Albatros D.Va 1:72 The kit is molded in the classic Pegasus medium-hard grey plastic. Two basic sprue trees carry the majority of the kit's 13 styrene pieces, though there is in this example a notable improvement in the molding process. Little flash is evident, and the surface detailing is rather good, particularly on the fuselage and mainplane. A number of white metal parts are included, including the engine, gun assembly, seat, exhaust, and strutting. By far the best of this lot is the Mercedes, which looks very fine. A single strand of thin 'strut material' is provided. Using the Albatros Datafile Special as a primary guide, the kit spec's out fairly well. Both wing planes appear to be 1mm shy on either side, though the shape is commendably accurate, and the top plane's center cut-out is indeed correct. The largest outline problem appears to rest with the vertical stabilizer, which is incorrectly shaped, though the rudder itself is fine. The spinner looks rather good. The kit's mainplane sports a nicely molded radiatior, with both upper and lower detail. The wing rib detail is delicate, and appears to match fairly well to Windsock. The wings' trailing edge scalloping is somewhat pronounced, but this may proved beneficial when the trailing edges are sanded to thin them down. The upper plane does feature 'washout', and is commendably thin. The cockpit interior detail is very basic: a 'shelf' for the seat and an instrument panel are provided, along with a rudimentary control collumn. None bear any particular resemblance to the Datafile, and modelers would be well ahead to scratch the interior (as usual!). Markings and decals are provided for Helmuth Dilthey's Alb.DVa of Jasta 40, of which there is a fine photo on pp.3 of the Albatros Datafile for reference. Overall, I thought the kit was certainly worth the price ($16.95 US, on sale). It is easily the best Albatros D.V kit available in the scale, and should build into a super model. Pluses: * Generally good outline * Fine detail, particularly with the fuselage panel lines and radiator * Excellent w/m engine Minuses: * W/M struts (too fragile) * Raised inspection panels on fuselage nose * Vertical fin needs replacement Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: AND, NOW, FILMS SO EPIC, THEY IT SAID IT COULD'T BE DONE: "Wuthering Heights", in Semaphore Code! "Julius Caesar", on the Aldis Lamp! .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 96 From: NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker D V111 Message-ID: <199610272025.QAA25574@mime2.prodigy.com> -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.1 ] -- Roger wrote, > I was thinking that if you can glue or solder dome detail > associates round brass stock of the correct size and glue it to the cockpit > frame to simulate tube look okay . What do you think it might take care of the > flat look. Roger B To be honest, so little of the frame can be seen through the cockpit opening, that it probably isn't necessary, but it would be more accurate . I'm finishing up the engine on my D.VIII and then it's off for another attempt at the Jasta 6 cowling. This time, I'm going to cut the black triangles into sections of three rather than try to manage the entire piece at one time. Ken -- Kenneth Hagerup 11419 South 43rd Avenue Omaha, NE 68123-1073 USA npwe28a@prodigy.com hagerupk@j5.stratcom.af.mil ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Musik while modelling? Message-ID: I usually play Gorecki's Symphony No.3 during the putty/sanding phase of any project. Seems to establish the 'correct', long-suffering, tone.... Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: AND, NOW, FILMS SO EPIC, THEY IT SAID IT COULD'T BE DONE: "Wuthering Heights", in Semaphore Code! "Julius Caesar", on the Aldis Lamp! .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:09:15 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Re[2]: Introduction Message-ID: <9610271402.aa20343@scosysv.speechsys.com> Riordan: You write: > What speed/species of cutting wheel or disc do you recommend for the spring > steel? I've been using the Dremel cut-off wheels for this kind of thing. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:15:48 -0500 From: john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) To: wwi Subject: Re: FSM Top 5 Message-ID: >> It would probably be a good idea to go for subjects that are *not* currently >> available in injected, rather than "improved" versions of subjects that are >> already available. And by available, I mean still being manufactured, not >> collectors kits. I'm not certain how relevant this is. Look at Rvell-O-Gram's new 1/72 releases: Messerschmitt Me 262A Supermarine Spitfire Mk. V Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-10 Focke-Wulf FW 190 A-8 How many times have these been done? And still, they're releasing more! If you want an 'improved' version, ask for it! My $0.02375 (inflation, you know!) John Roll ******************************************* John Roll john@rollmodels.com Vice President and Chief Modeler for ROLL MODELS, INC. THE Internet source for plastic model kits, books and supplies GREAT STUFF! GREAT PRICES! GREAT SERVICE! http://www.rollmodels.com It's not real soon anymore, it's NOW! ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:43:53 +1100 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Eduard Albatros D.V Message-ID: <01BBC4A3.C4C9E660@pc087b.mim.com.au> Hello all, Nearly two weeks ago we were regaled with this exchange: Matt Bittner wrote: >So, I was reading the October issue of Scale Models. They >do a "mini" review of the Eduard Albatros D.V. One thing >they mentioned was that the radiator should not be "flush" >with the upper wing. The author mentioned to shim the >underside with plastic card, and sand it "wedge shaped" >with the leading edge plastic as thin as possible. > >Is the Scale Models author correct, or blowing smoke? Bill Shatzer replies: >The author is pretty much correct - the trailing edge of the >radiator stands an inch or two above the wing surface. Even >the leading edge stands out a bit - although much thinner, >in the front the radiator wasn't absolutely flush >with the wing either. Weeell, no, wrong actually. I'm afraid this is a nice example of why it is important to actually look at photos before taking the slightest notice of the pundits of the modelling press. I spent a few profitable minutes on the weekend checking this in preparation for building *my* Albatrii and this is what I found. 1. There are at least two different types of radiator used in both D.III and D.V/D.Va aircraft. a. One is precisely as Eduard present their etched part, that is, the radiator and the surrounding mounting plate - or the four mounting tabs - are bolted flush on top of the wing uppersurface. There is no significant protrusion of the radiator through the mount plate, and the mount is more or less equal in width on the port and starboard sides and to the rear. b. The second has the radiator protruding from the rectangular mount plate, by about 30mm at the rear, but more or less flush at the front. The plate is about 35mm wide on the starboard side, but non-existent to port and to the rear. However the mount plate tabs are still bolted directly to the top of the wing at all four corners. Inspection of photos in Rimmells Albatros Fighters Special will show quite clearly both types. Incidentally, the "b" type is fitted to the Canberra Albatros, and (though I'm *not* sure from the photo) I believe the "a" type is fitted to the NASM Albatros. Type "a" is described and drawn by Eric Watson in Windsock Vol8 #4, and shown in detail photograph in the special. 2. IN ANY CASE you *CANNOT* correct the Eduard part as explained in the magazine review. What is being touted in fact, is a method of making an essentially correct part incorrect for any Albatros. It pains me to admit it, but Matt is correct in surmising the presence of smoke. While I'm at it, lets mention this exchange Matt says: > And hey, they include the rear, lifting rings! Now I'm really > impressed. ;-) Mick replies: >Yeees, but they don't look right in brass: they're rope. Micks right, at least for the Canberra D.Va. Wire rope actually, with a cloth binding on the holding part. The combination of stiff rope and binding, with the stresses one would expect if lifting with ones hand along the padded bit make them sit in a sort of teardrop shape, rather like the Eduard part. I suggest that a bit of white glue to fatten the padded part (at the bottom of the ring), and a tiny bit of twisting to take the "too neat" look away would make a very convincing part. Enough from me, I now return this list to it's usual programming, Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 19:36:29 Eastern Standard Time From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker D V111 Message-ID: <19961027193629.0580619f.in@legend.firstsaga.com> Roger wrote: >De4ar Ken , thanks for the information , I will try yiour suggestions >they sound good to me .I was thinking that if you can glue or solder >dome detail associates round brass stock of the correct size and glue it >to the cockpit frame to simulate tube look okay . What do you think it >might take care of the flat look. Roger B I have planned on trying this one myself. I have soldered some .008 and .010 brass wire for the handrails on an n-scale loco. It isn't as hard as it appears. Now if I could just find a way to duck the yard work I might get something built. Len nb. Glencoe Spad XIII, DML Fokker DVIII nu. FFG 15, USS Estocin 1/700 (My son is a crew member.) nr. Sagitarious Rising QWicKeSST - The ultimate database QWK reader, and NO limits. #$678803 Special Compile: 1.032B (Beta) >> Slipstream Jet - The QWK solution for Usenets #$678803 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:56:33 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Re[2]: Questions of the Week Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Riordan Goodwin wrote: > Already tried to build up a spinner from Heller 109B leftover and > scrap plastic; the canted slots are what killed it. > > Exasperatedly, At the risk of exasperating you more, may I suggest getting some plastic and turning it on a Dremel? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:58:05 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Re[4]: Questions of the Week Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Riordan Goodwin wrote: > Thanks. If I ever find a decal sheet of RAF serials, I can model these guy's > 'planes. Hello again, how about dry transfers? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:02:48 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Fokker D V111 Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, KENNETH L HAGERUP wrote: > . I'm finishing up the engine on my D.VIII and then it's off for > another attempt at the Jasta 6 cowling. This time, I'm going to cut the > black triangles into sections of three rather than try to manage the > entire piece at one time. Try putting on glass as many layers of triangles as you need. Cut the triangle shape. They'll all be of the same dimensions! I did it this way. It worked great! ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:17:59 -0500 From: roger belanger To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker D V111 Message-ID: <327409C7.4D7B@concentric.net> KENNETH L HAGERUP wrote: > > -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.1 ] -- > > Roger wrote, > > > I was thinking that if you can glue or solder dome detail > > associates round brass stock of the correct size and glue it to the > cockpit > > frame to simulate tube look okay . What do you think it might take > care of the > > flat look. Roger B > > To be honest, so little of the frame can be seen through the cockpit > opening, that it probably isn't necessary, but it would be more accurate > . I'm finishing up the engine on my D.VIII and then it's off for > another attempt at the Jasta 6 cowling. This time, I'm going to cut the > black triangles into sections of three rather than try to manage the > entire piece at one time. > > Ken > -- > > Kenneth Hagerup > 11419 South 43rd Avenue > Omaha, NE 68123-1073 > USA > > npwe28a@prodigy.com > > hagerupk@j5.stratcom.af.mil I am inter3ested in seeing how your Dv111 progresses , I still think that I will try to sim the tubing , I'll know it is there . It will make a great IPMS show project . I have my 35mm. film processed at Seattle Filmworks and they put it on a floppy , I am going to take some pix. of this project to put it on the net to share it with others Best Regards Roger B. -- ROGER BELANGER A job worth doing is a job worth doing well ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:20:21 -0500 From: roger belanger To: wwi Subject: Re: FSM Top 5 Message-ID: <32740A55.976@concentric.net> John Roll wrote: > > >> It would probably be a good idea to go for subjects that are *not* currently > >> available in injected, rather than "improved" versions of subjects that are > >> already available. And by available, I mean still being manufactured, not > >> collectors kits. > > I'm not certain how relevant this is. Look at Rvell-O-Gram's new 1/72 releases: > > Messerschmitt Me 262A > Supermarine Spitfire Mk. V > Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-10 > Focke-Wulf FW 190 A-8 > > How many times have these been done? And still, they're releasing more! > If you want an 'improved' version, ask for it! > > My $0.02375 (inflation, you know!) > > John Roll > > ******************************************* > John Roll > john@rollmodels.com > Vice President and Chief Modeler for > > ROLL MODELS, INC. > THE Internet source for plastic model kits, books and supplies > > GREAT STUFF! GREAT PRICES! GREAT SERVICE! > > http://www.rollmodels.com > It's not real soon anymore, it's NOW! > ******************************************* John how do we order from you , and what ww1 do you have in stock in 1/72? Roger B. -- ROGER BELANGER A job worth doing is a job worth doing well ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 96 20:37 EST From: Don Rinker To: wwi Subject: Re: FSM Top 5 Message-ID: > >John Roll wrote: > >> > >> >> It would probably be a good idea to go for subjects that are *not* currently > >> >> available in injected, rather than "improved" versions of subjects that are > >> >> already available. And by available, I mean still being manufactured, not > >> >> collectors kits. > >> > >> I'm not certain how relevant this is. Look at Rvell-O-Gram's new 1/72 releases: > >> > >> Messerschmitt Me 262A > >> Supermarine Spitfire Mk. V > >> Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-10 > >> Focke-Wulf FW 190 A-8 > >> > >> How many times have these been done? And still, they're releasing more! > >> If you want an 'improved' version, ask for it! > >> > >> My $0.02375 (inflation, you know!) > >> > >> John Roll > >> > >> ******************************************* > >> John Roll > >> john@rollmodels.com > >> ROLL MODELS, INC. > >> THE Internet source for plastic model kits, books and supplies > >> > >> GREAT STUFF! GREAT PRICES! GREAT SERVICE! > >> > >> http://www.rollmodels.com > >> It's not real soon anymore, it's NOW! > >> ******************************************* > > > > John how do we order from you , and what ww1 do you have in stock in > >1/72? Roger B. > >-- > >ROGER BELANGER > > > >A job worth doing is a job worth doing well > > Just ordered a few things from John Roll.. His service was very promt. The Aeroclub FE-2b looks like it will be a worthwhile project. I've always wanted to do one of these........... Silver Hill Historic Aviation | Documentation - Photography 4051 Ivy Lane | Research - Specialty Paints Easton, PA 18045 | Antique Instrumentation ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 308 *********************