WWI Digest 297 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Where to find Chandelle... by Joseph Gentile 2) Re: Where to find Chandelle... by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 3) WW1 Books for sale by Howard Rifkin 4) Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 5) WW1 Books for sale by Howard Rifkin 6) Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa by Rob 7) Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa by bciciora@wwa.com 8) RFC/RNAS/RAF Squadron Markings by bciciora@wwa.com 9) Re: Fokker D.VIII (part 2) by DavidL1217@aol.com 10) Re: WW1 Books for sale by DavidL1217@aol.com 11) Re: Halberstadt Hot Flash by DavidL1217@aol.com 12) Re: It's a D.F.W. by DavidL1217@aol.com 13) Re: Must see Web Site by DavidL1217@aol.com 14) RE: A&E Biography by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 15) Re: Eduard Sopwith Triplane Review - WW1 type view with details. by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 16) Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 17) Re: RFC/RNAS/RAF Squadron Markings by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 18) Re: Eduard Sopwith Triplane review (two things) by mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca (Mark K. Nelson) 19) Re: Eduard Sopwith Triplane Review - WW1 type view with details. by mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca (Mark K. Nelson) 20) Re: It's a D.F.W. by mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca (Mark K. Nelson) 21) Wednesday, 18 October 1916, Cazaux by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 22) Re: Windsock Trivia by mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca (Mark K. Nelson) 23) Re: Rigging by SOPWITH@worldnet.att.net 24) Re: Eduard Sopwith Triplane Review - WW1 type view with details. by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 25) Re: Albatros D.V by SOPWITH@worldnet.att.net 26) Re[4]: Reference Material by "Shelley Goodwin" 27) Re[4]: Reference Material by "Shelley Goodwin" 28) Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa by "Shelley Goodwin" 29) Re: WW1 Books for sale by NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) 30) Re: Reference Material by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 31) Re: A&E Biography by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) 32) Re: Rigging by "S.M. Head" 33) Re: A&E Biography by DFAULDER@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:12:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Joseph Gentile To: wwi Subject: Where to find Chandelle... Message-ID: <199610181712.MAA20621@Walden.MO.NET> Sorry to use the list for a personal plea but... Rob, (I think) what is the new address for Chandelle? I forgot to bookmark it when you changed your address. BTW, very nice page. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:35:52 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where to find Chandelle... Message-ID: >Sorry to use the list for a personal plea but... > >Rob, (I think) what is the new address for Chandelle? I forgot to bookmark >it when you changed your address. BTW, very nice page. > >Joe Chandelle's new home is: http://www.cris.com/~Rojo1/ Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 14:09:32 -0400 From: Howard Rifkin To: wwi Subject: WW1 Books for sale Message-ID: <9610181809.AA06845@velantia.unx.dec.com> I forgot to say that I am just forwarding this to the list and have absolutely nothing to do with Mr Frost and all communications should be made with him. I will say that his price on the Harleyfor Fighter book is a real bargain and if he had had the bomber book I would not have forarded this to the list until after I had it :). Howard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:19:48 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Cc: wwi (Multiple recipients of list) Subject: Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa Message-ID: <1996Oct18.111616.1155.743533@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Joe, found that John Rolls had the Pegasus decals at $11.50 but he only has the four color in stock, I also found his Windsock Datafiles to be $5 cheaper than som of the other sources. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 14:06:16 -0400 From: Howard Rifkin To: wwi Subject: WW1 Books for sale Message-ID: <9610181806.AA06824@velantia.unx.dec.com> ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: dfrost@planet.eon.net Received: from zeus.unx.dec.com by velantia.unx.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/05Jan96-0913AM) id AA06810; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:55:46 -0400 Received: from mail11.digital.com by zeus.unx.dec.com (8.7.6/UNX 1.6/1.1.10.5/28Jun96-0151PM) id NAA05860; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from planet.eon.net by mail11.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id NAA12536; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (ts1_port20.planet.eon.net [199.185.220.148]) by planet.eon.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA20858 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:35:17 -0600 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:35:17 -0600 Message-Id: <199610181735.LAA20858@planet.eon.net> X-Sender: dfrost@planet.eon.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hsr@unx.dec.com From: Derek Frost Subject: WW1 Books for sale >Attn. Howard Rifkim >WW1 aviation book list. All books vg condition unless noted. Hardcover books indicated. Postage is 15% extra with a minmum of $4US & Insurance is extra at $1 per 100. Prices are in US$. Payments please to 'D.Frost'.If you wish to order anything, suggest checking via email & I will confirm available, before sending any money. All the books are 1 only items. > >"Albatros Scouts Described". C.Schaedel. Kookaburra Pubs. 26pgs.good b/w & col.profiles $7.00 >"Germany's First Air Force 1914-1918". P.Kilduff. 1991. hc. 160pgs. Many b/w ill. $20.00 > >"Fighters of WW One" Purnell's History of the World Wars Special. 64pgs.Well ill. with col. & b/w $3.00 >"Bombers 1914-1939" Same series as previous item. $3.00 >Profile Publications No.67. "Fokker D.VIII" $4.00 > >Windsock Magazines each $6.00 >Vol.5. Nos. # & 4 Vol.6. Nos.2 & 3 Vol.7. Nos. 1 & 3 >Vol.8. No.6 Vol.9. No.3 > >Widsock Datafile Special. "Albatros Experimentals: The Forgotten Fighters.Pt.1." $15.00 >Windsock Datafiles. each $9.00 >No.19 Albatros D.III (OEF) >No.35 Rumpler C.IV >No.45 Aviatilk D.I >No.47 LFG Roland D.II >No.52 Bristol M.1 > >Harleyford Publications book (long out-of-print). each $35.00. dustjackets marked. >"Von Richthofen & the Fling Circus" Nowarra & Brow >"Fokker - The Man & the Aircraft" Henri Hegener >"Air Aces of the 1914-1918 War" Bruce Robertson >"Fighter Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War" Lamberton & Cheesman > >Can also list some WW2 material including some Harleyford books. Regards. > >Derek Frost > ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:08:18 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa Message-ID: <9610181304.aa02287@scosysv.speechsys.com> > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:42:33 -0400 > Reply-to: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > From: Joseph Gentile > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa > At $9.98 retail is this kit worth the price? Please provide your thoughts > about the strengths and weaknesses of this offering. I'd say, yes. The nose contours look like they need some work and you have to supply an engine and interior, but this is one of the nicer Aurora/Glencoe kits. The decals are terrific. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 16:37 CDT From: bciciora@wwa.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa Message-ID: Joe asked: >At $9.98 retail is this kit worth the price? Please provide your thoughts >about the strengths and weaknesses of this offering. Strengths: Price, decals, fit, ease of assembly Weakneses: People afflicted with Advanced Modeler Syndrome will need to make their own fiddley bits. Prop is unusable. Wrong exhaust manifold. BTW, this is actually a D.III. Only the exhaust manifold is D.IIIa type. I was able to scratch a true D.III manifold, and I'm not even afflicted with AMS. On balance, the most fun I've had building a kit this year. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 16:40 CDT From: bciciora@wwa.com To: wwi Subject: RFC/RNAS/RAF Squadron Markings Message-ID: Has anyone ever done an exhaustive study on the WWI Brit squadron markings? Is such a book still in print, or do I have to scour the used book stores? For example, did 24 Squadron retain the red & white striped interplane struts when they converted to DH5s and SE5s? Any info appreciated. Bill C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:08:51 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Fokker D.VIII (part 2) Message-ID: <961018180850_1480679825@emout20.mail.aol.com> The tonal quality of the cowling in the photo I have is much darker than the muted olive of the struts and wheels in the photo. In fact, it appears as a gloss black. The film used at the time registered yellow as a 'pure black' due to the colour's reflective qualities. Since others have said yellow and not black on the cowl, yellow it'll be. The rest of the airframe is factory fresh. Perhaps the yellow stripen came later. This is an 'EV' so maybe the stripes were applied while the type was grounded. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:11:29 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: WW1 Books for sale Message-ID: <961018181127_1480679833@emout06.mail.aol.com> I would like to purchase your copy of Rebertson's Air Aces of the 1914 - 1918 War. Please advise if it is available. David Layton DavidL1217@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:16:39 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Halberstadt Hot Flash Message-ID: <961018181638_1179523372@emout12.mail.aol.com> I just received a letter and an order form from Ray Rimell. Albatros has just released a special on the Halberstadt D types. 1/72 & 1/48 drawings 48 pages 8 colour profiles 90 documentary photos Written by Peter Grosz Price #13.95 This is released under a new selection "Classics of WWI Aviation" At the Over the Front seminar, Peter spoke very favourably about the type. It will be a very popular title. Now to check the exchange rates! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:19:17 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: It's a D.F.W. Message-ID: <961018181915_1112418997@emout19.mail.aol.com> In the show "Four Years of Thunder" there was a skull and cross bones marked two seater which was described as a Rumpler. The DFW CV has an identity crisis. Everyone seems to think it's a more famous plane! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:24:32 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Must see Web Site Message-ID: <961018182432_1213004872@emout12.mail.aol.com> I found a very deep and interesting Web Site called "Trenches on the Web" which appears to be affilitate with the Great War Society. It features what appears to be several dozen pages on the 1914-18 war, maps weapons personalities etc. All aimed at serious education. My only concern is whether it is too Anglo (US and British viewpoints being prevelant) with everyone else left out. Web address: hppt://www.worldwar1.com/reflib.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:26:58 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: A&E Biography Message-ID: <199610182326.TAA22181@ns1.ptd.net> At 11:30 PM 10/17/96 -0400, Shane Weier wrote: >Dear oh dear Matt, > >>Here's the next one: the greatest Triplane ace of all times: >>Josef Jacobs!! Ok, ok, one can dream, can't they? ;-) > >Now didn't we go through this once before. > >Repeat after me... > >Jacobs WASN'T the greatest triplane ace,Jacobs WASN'T the greatest triplane >ace,Jacobs WASN'T the greatest triplane ace...................... Right....it would be Collishaw!!!!!!!!! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:55:11 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard Sopwith Triplane Review - WW1 type view with details. Message-ID: <199610182355.TAA28340@ns1.ptd.net> At 12:53 AM 10/18/96 -0400, Mark K. Nelson wrote: >T >Eduard 1/48 Injected Sopwith Triplane: Mark I've been meaning to mention that I enjoy the reviews you post. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:55:13 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa Message-ID: <199610182355.TAA28348@ns1.ptd.net> At 12:48 PM 10/18/96 -0400, Joseph Gentile wrote: >At $9.98 retail is this kit worth the price? Please provide your thoughts >about the >strengths and weaknesses of this offering. Joe I don't usually line any kits up with spec sheets since I'm really not good enough to make any majorm corrections. I've just started making this one while I keep working on the 1/72 rigging on an SE5a. The pieces seem to fit together ok. although I haven't glued them yet. The struts need a little sanding to get rid of injection points. The guns are ok but nothing special. AHHHH, then we get to the decals. Incredible. I also picked up the Aeromaster Pfalz decals, but I think I'm going to use the ones with the kit. This one is going to be Barth's aircraft...chrome yellow details with a large chrome-yellow dumbell below the cockpit. I can't seem to find any good photos of this plane. There's one in the Datafile special, but it is at such a distance that it's really no help. So, if anyone has a good photo I'd love to get a copy. Look at some of the earlier messages to learn how to fill the slot at the bottom on the fuselage! Good Luck. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:55:17 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: RFC/RNAS/RAF Squadron Markings Message-ID: <199610182355.TAA28367@ns1.ptd.net> At 05:39 PM 10/18/96 -0400, bciciora@wwa.com wrote: >Has anyone ever done an exhaustive study on the WWI Brit squadron markings? >Is such a book still in print, or do I have to scour the used book stores? At least as far as the SE5a is concerned, the "In Action" book by Squadron at least goes through all the fuselage markings and when they changed. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:08:49 -0700 From: mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca (Mark K. Nelson) To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Sopwith Triplane review (two things) Message-ID: Two things about my Sopwith Triplane review: 1) I forgot to archive a copy - could somebody please e-mail my review back to me! (how embarassing.) 2) I forgot to mention that N5482 "MAUD" should have a pointy little spinner as illustrated in the color plate on the back of the Datafile and in the picture on page 11 of the datafile. _____________________________________________________________________ Mark (An Employee at Kites & Other Delights in West Edmonton Mall) ------------------------ mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca An Apple a day keeps Bill Gates at bay. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:12:45 -0700 From: mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca (Mark K. Nelson) To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Sopwith Triplane Review - WW1 type view with details. Message-ID: >At 12:53 AM 10/18/96 -0400, Mark K. Nelson wrote: >>T >>Eduard 1/48 Injected Sopwith Triplane: > >Mark > I've been meaning to mention that I enjoy the reviews you post. >Mike Muth Thanks. I don't suppose you could e-mail me my review - I forgot to archive a copy. _____________________________________________________________________ Mark (An Employee at Kites & Other Delights in West Edmonton Mall) ------------------------ mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca An Apple a day keeps Bill Gates at bay. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:19:53 -0700 From: mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca (Mark K. Nelson) To: wwi Subject: Re: It's a D.F.W. Message-ID: >In response to DFAULDER@aol.com >Subject: Photo ID - Albatros C.III? > >>I have a photo of an Albatros C.III, I think( two seaters are not my forte). >>It has a dark colored fuselage with a large '3' under the cockpit, then a >>swastika behind that. Closer to the tail there is a large light colored band >>around the fuselage. On the dark colored port lower wing there are several >>white chord-wise stripes, 5 outboard and 3 inboard. I suspect it is a >>captured aircraft. Anybody have any more information on this bird? > >The aircraft is D.F.W C.V 342/18 forced down by Lt H.D. Barton of No. 24 >Squadron on 26 July 1918. Photo of it appears in "Cross & Cockade Journal" >Spring 1975, p. 60. > >PK On page 23 of the DFW C.V datafile (photo 74) there is an image of a C.V in similar markings (big "white" 3 and "white" swastika). BUT: a) the serial number is illegible so I can't say whether it is the same as the plane PK has seen a pic. of b) there is no band around the fuselage - but the rudder is light colored and c) it is an edge-on left side image so the tops of the wings are not visible. _____________________________________________________________________ Mark (An Employee at Kites & Other Delights in West Edmonton Mall) ------------------------ mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca An Apple a day keeps Bill Gates at bay. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:22:51 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Wednesday, 18 October 1916, Cazaux Message-ID: <3268498B.359F@host.dmsc.net> Rainy, misty day, partially clear in late p.m. Worked all day as usual Being with a group of officers we have it fairly easy. Much more agreeable also. Finished up some important notes for Major Parker in late p.m. Went to restaurant in evening for supper. Norman Prince died from wounds rec'd last Sunday in aerial duel. He'd be immensely honored by the French as he was the originator of our American Escadrille. ********************* from the diaries of E.C.C. Genet, Escadrille Lafayette ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:27:19 -0700 From: mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca (Mark K. Nelson) To: wwi Subject: Re: Windsock Trivia Message-ID: >re: Windsock Trivia (etc.. Deleted) >Does the article acually state it was the _paints_ that discoloured >and not the doping or a combination of doping and paint. Maybe the >chemical reaction (can't have been just oxidation) was between an >impurity in the dope and the paint. I agree we do need to question >the original articles discussion, not just a summary. > >On the other hand it does give everyone an excuse for trying new >colour schemes! Did you know that at the time MvR was actually known >as the 'Greenish Turquoise Baron' > >All right boys, you can see the colour police. Fix >spectrophotometers. CHARGE!!! > >Brian (etc. . .) Actually the article states "The original colors, the study concluded, had been Grey and Dark Grey, heavily distorted by the yellowing of its protective varnishes." The implication perhaps being that actual grey paint was found under the yellowed varnish. _____________________________________________________________________ Mark (An Employee at Kites & Other Delights in West Edmonton Mall) ------------------------ mnelson@compusmart.ab.ca An Apple a day keeps Bill Gates at bay. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 01:12:18 +0000 From: SOPWITH@worldnet.att.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging Message-ID: <19961019011215.AAA19190@LOCALNAME> At 12:31 PM 10/18/96 +0000, you wrote: >Reading r.m.s., and another thread on rigging, I was thinking >(yea, I know, but I've got to get it out before it dies of >lonliness...). > >I want to add a rigging section to the FAQ. My vision is to add >everything those on the list use for rigging. > >So, for example, in the correct scale section (that's 1/72nd, in >case you forgot ;-)) I would include what I use: > >Detail Associates .006" "brass tubing" plus-the-part-number >Where-ever-I-can-find .004" stainless steel wire > >I would add three (more? are any of the flying guys still >around?) sections: 1/72nd, 1/48th and 1/32nd (anybody work on >the Marco's 1/24th? if so, I'll add that, as well). > >So, I need to know what you use for rigging - plus include where >you got it; any known part, or stock number; what the current >price is; and how much comes in a "package". I will then add it >to the FAQ. I realise it's a bit specific for the FAQ - since >it's for a/c only - but I think we see enough of it not only on >r.m.s., but here as well that it warrants it being added. > >What do you think? > > >Matt >meba@cso.com > > We have .004 carbon steel wire. It comes in three strands of 55" each. The price is $5.95/pack. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:16:54 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard Sopwith Triplane Review - WW1 type view with details. Message-ID: <199610190116.VAA15297@ns1.ptd.net> At 08:10 PM 10/18/96 -0400, Mark K. Nelson wrote: > >Thanks. I don't suppose you could e-mail me my review - I forgot to archive >a copy. Er..heh,heh. I trash stuff right after I read it. Sorry. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 01:24:01 +0000 From: SOPWITH@worldnet.att.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatros D.V Message-ID: <19961019012356.AAB25579@LOCALNAME> At 11:13 PM 10/14/96 +0000, you wrote: > >I am actually working on Eduard's Albatros D.V and intend to make it >on Lt. Hans Waldhausen of Jasta 37 colors, now this requires the >fuselage to be plywood paneling, and I have never before attempted this, >so what is the best way to represent it. >Decals, I have Aeromaster's wood decals that could be cut into panels >Painted, trickier , I have only tried this on propellers > >Can someone help ? > >Thanks , Saludos > >Alberto > > Alberto, try undercoating with Humbrols OAK matte. After it is dry use some (very little, oil goees a long way) burn sienna oil paint. Let is just get tacky and then with a flat brush, start taking the paint away by brushing in one direction. To simulate different pannels, brush each pannel in a diffeent direction. Also add some burn umber to some pannels. It's lots of work but it looks good in 54mm figures. Juan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 17:26:54 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[4]: Reference Material Message-ID: <9609188456.AA845688370@mx.Ricochet.net> Mike, I guess I'm just a sucker for WWI movies, even stupid ones if they have flying machines in them. So, have you seen the WWI spy thriller "Zeppelin" starring Michael York & Elke Sommer? Not a great film, but mildly enetertaining and interesting for the swarm of S.E.5 Moths that attack the airship. If you think you could live without your lovely store-bought L.E., send it back to me and I promise to take good care of it. YT, Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Reference Material Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/18/96 4:43 AM At 10:15 PM 10/17/96 -0400, Shelley Goodwin wrote: > Bill, > > > Have you seen_Richtofen and Brown_ or _Zeppelin_? > > Perhaps we can persuade Mike to copy the Lafayette Esc. film for the > library. Richthofen and Brown pretty much sucked as a movie, except for the visuals. Lots of guady triplanes, etc. Accuracy of colors, however, might keep the color police busy for quite some time. More than willing to either copy or donate L.E. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 17:45:00 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re[4]: Reference Material Message-ID: <9609188456.AA845688379@mx.Ricochet.net> Rob, Forgive me for being a tecno-peasant; I'm still learning how to use these machines and rely on my wife to sort out and assist with tech matters. Do you have a database on your materials already, or are we talking about how to create one? If we are to create one, we'll need a small set of index catagories (by name,aircraft,nationality, squadron,theater?) Also, what are your thoughts on the fee/expanding the collection issue? Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Reference Material Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/18/96 8:12 AM Riordan writes: > My better half informs me that we don't have Zip-drive but are > zip-capable and she has access Excel and Paradox for Windows and > thinks that it will convert dBase files. Have you started an index or > other directory file?... database may take a few months to > create/adapt. Converting dBASE to Access is very straight forward as far as the tables go. If you don't insist on fancy forms, you could have a usable database in minutes. Just import the dBASE databases as tables. Some nice forms should take a few minutes more, max. I have a fair bit of experience doing this, so feel free to e-mail me if you have questions. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 96 18:11:23 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa Message-ID: <9609188456.AA845688389@mx.Ricochet.net> I am currently building this kit, and since I have contracted Advanced Modeler Syndrome it has been a real scream. IMHO, if accurracy is not an issue, then this is quite an enjoyable kit at a great price. The decals and box art are almost worth the price of admission. The only sharp pain (in the ass) for the basic modeler is the lack of a decent prop/spinner. If you don't look at plans, you're home-free; if, however you have more than a passing interest in detail but an average attention span, preserve what sanity you may have by getting the Tom's version or wait for the Eduard kit. FWIW, Riordan ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Glencoe Pfalz D.IIIa Author: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu at Internet Date: 10/18/96 9:50 AM At $9.98 retail is this kit worth the price? Please provide your thoughts about the strengths and weaknesses of this offering. I think I've read that the decals are often the highlight of these Aurora re-runs. I apologize if this is a rehashed topic but there seem to be some rather interesting aftermarket decals out there and I'm thinking that for the price why not build up two at the same time? As an aside, I found the PL 1/48 D.VII decals available from Sopwith Hobbies in Miami, FL as well as the Pegasus 5 color lozenge. The latter being quite pricey at $15.98. "Charles Duckworth, if you are reading this I think you were interested." ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 96 From: NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) To: wwi Subject: Re: WW1 Books for sale Message-ID: <199610190109.VAB04670@mime2.prodigy.com> -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.5.1 ] -- Howard wrote: > I forgot to say that I am just forwarding this to the list and have absolutely > nothing to do with Mr Frost and all communications should be made with him. I > will say that his price on the Harleyfor Fighter book is a real bargain and if > he had had the bomber book I would not have forarded this to the list until > after I had it :). I was able to fill quite a few gaps in my Datafile and Harleyford collection from Mr. Frost and can unhesitatingly recommomend him to anyone on the list. Ken -- Kenneth Hagerup 11419 South 43rd Avenue Omaha, NE 68123-1073 USA npwe28a@prodigy.com hagerupk@j5.stratcom.af.mil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:20:52 EDT From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi Subject: Re: Reference Material Message-ID: <19961018.203403.4447.1.mbittner@juno.com> On Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:31:43 -0400 roger belanger writes: > i BELONG TO A sHIP mODEL gUILD , WE HAVE AQUIRED A FAIRLY > SUBSTANTIAL , WE LOAN TO MEMBERS ONLY . THE FIRST MONTH IS > FREE AFTER THAT $5.00 FOR SECOND MONTH THEN THE BOOK HAS > TO BE RETURNED TO THE LIBRARY , IF A MEMBER CANNOT READ > ALL OF THE PERTINANT MATERRIA HE HAS TO XEROX IT. Roger, shhh.... ;-) Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:20:52 EDT From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi Subject: Re: A&E Biography Message-ID: <19961018.203403.4447.0.mbittner@juno.com> On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:30:00 -0400 Shane Weier writes: > Jacobs WASN'T the greatest triplane ace,Jacobs WASN'T the > greatest triplane ace,Jacobs WASN'T the greatest triplane > ace...................... I thought it was also brought out that: yes he WAS, yes he WAS, yes he WAS... Peter, can you help me out here? Shane has delusions that the best tripe ace is someone who flew Sopwith Tripes. I think he's going to have to build a Merlin kit, for that one...;-) Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 00:25:05 -0400 From: "S.M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging Message-ID: <9610182338.aa00998@mail.iapc.net> Clipped: >I would add three (more? are any of the flying guys still >around?) sections: 1/72nd, 1/48th and 1/32nd (anybody work on >the Marco's 1/24th? if so, I'll add that, as well). > >So, I need to know what you use for rigging - plus include where >you got it; any known part, or stock number; what the current >price is; and how much comes in a "package". You forgot the "real modeler's scale". I use, for my 1/144 WWI warbirds, a trained golden orb spider (juveniles work best, they get testy later on). These fellows are easily acquired by sending me $29.95 for a base model, $59.95 trained (specify allied or central). A typical well trained orb can fully rig a 1/144 standard fighter/obs aircraft, two or more can manage bombers. As a bonus, they catch marauding bugs! Cheers! Scott M. Head IPMS/USA #32841 IPMS Houston Scale Model Forum http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh Win95=Mac'87 ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 01:05:10 -0400 From: DFAULDER@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: A&E Biography Message-ID: <961019010509_1480717014@emout15.mail.aol.com> On the subject of the greatest triplane ace Mike Muth so wisely and succinctly said: > Right....it would be Collishaw!!!!!!!!! Right on Mike. Not only was Collishaw a great pilot and leader in WWI, he played an important role in the Desert war for the RAF in WW2, and most importantly he was a Canadian! I could drone on and on but enough said. If Barker could only have got his hands on a Triplane... Doug Faulder dfaulder@aol.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 297 *********************