WWI Digest 286

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Scale Models and Albatros
	by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner)
  2) Re: help 
	by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner)
  3) WWI in the Air (9 Oct 1916)
	by Paul Silbermann <NASGRB17@SIVM.SI.EDU>
  4) re: Teeny drills
	by Jack Berlien <a0186964@dsbs15.itg.ti.com>
  5) Re: Back home
	by Carlos Valdes <carlos.valdes@conted.gatech.edu>
  6) Monday, 9 October 1916, Cazaux
	by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" <homanger@host.dmsc.net>
  7) Re: Lewis Guns/Sorta Off Topic
	by Mick Fauchon <ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au>
  8) Maxim machine gun?
	by "S.M. Head" <smh@iapc.net>
  9) Chandelle
	by rojo1@concentric.net
 10) Re: Maxim machine gun?
	by Mick Fauchon <ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au>

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 01:00:52 EDT
From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner)
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Scale Models and Albatros
Message-ID: <19961008.202329.4447.3.mbittner@juno.com>

On Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:22:18 -0400 cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos
Valdes) writes:

>	I've got #4 and can copy it for you. What's your address?

Matt Bittner
11213 Y St
Omaha  NE  68137

In case you didn't see it ;-) could you also photocopy for me the Eduard
Albatros D.V article in Replic?  I'm in the process of reviewing it for
Hobbytown Corporate, and am trying to get all the references I can on the
model.  Thanks!


Matt
mbittner@juno.com

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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 07:29:43 EDT
From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner)
To: wwi
Subject: Re: help 
Message-ID: <19961009.062606.4447.1.mbittner@juno.com>

On Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:39:48 -0400 roger belanger
<spbldr@concentric.net> writes:

> I am building the Classic Planes 1 1/2 Sopwith Strutter
> Thanks for the reply I'll give it my best shot and will
> let you know how I make it

Classic Planes is one of the best vac makers around.
Others include Blue Rider and Sierra Scale.  You can't go
wrong with these three.  Good luck!


Matt
mbittner@juno.com

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Date:         Wed, 9 Oct 96  08:13:12 EDT
From: Paul Silbermann <NASGRB17@SIVM.SI.EDU>
To: WWI list <wwi-l@ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu>, <wwi>,
Subject: WWI in the Air (9 Oct 1916)
Message-ID: <199610091211.IAA05894@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

10/9/1916
  Germany releases loss/claim figures for September 1916:

  Cause         German Allied

  Air-to-air      20     97
  ground fire      -     25
  forced to land   -      7
  missing          1      -
  total           21    129

<German communique; _Aeronautics_ comments: "The subject of aircraft
losses on the Western Front was fully dealt with in last week's issue.
It only remains to be said that the German figures are grosteque lies.">
     _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.258.

  French aircraft attack the St. Pierre Vaast Wood. <French communique;
date not confirmed>
  French aircraft attack Monastir and Prilep. <French communique; date
not confirmed>
     _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.258.

  "Although, naturally, the bulk of our battle strength must remain
permanently concentrated in the North Sea as the chief theatre of war,
there exist in the Baltic, too, such manifold and important duties that
a very considerable number of warships and auxiliaries of all kinds are
needed to carry them out. ... Among them is to be found a seaplane
carrier, recognisable by her high superstructure. ... High over the
inlet two great seaplanes fly seaward, while over the land circles a
graceful aeroplane. Aircraft play a role no less important part in the
Baltic than in the North Sea." <Kptltn v. Pustau, in a series of
articles on the German Navy>
     _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.260.

  "Speaking only of the manner in which the enemy conducts aerial
warfare against us, we address the neutral States, who are bound in
honour and duty under the existing circumstances to raise their voices
in favour of the principles of justice and humanity which should guide
civilised peoples, in times of peace as in time of war, and we bring the
following to their notice:
  "German aviators have been throwing bombs incessantly, night and day,
on the city of Bucharest without attaining any other result than making
250 innocent victims, killed and wounded, among them more than 200 women
and children, and several sick and infirm persons, for more than
fifty-eight bombs have been thrown on hospitals and asylums. The same
thing is happening almost daily in the other open towns of the country.
The representatives of the Foreign Powers residing in the capital of the
Kingdom have been in a position to note the facts, and have doubtless
informed their Governments of them, and called their attention to these
repeated violations of the laws of war." <note by Porumbaru, Rumanian
Minister of Foreign Affairs protesting German bombardment under articles
25, 26, and 27 of the Regulations attached to the 40th Hague Convention>
     _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.260.

-- night of 9/10 Oct --
  1 French aircraft (Adj.Baron, plt; Adj.Chazard, obs.) attack Bosch
magneto factory at Stuttgart. <French communique>
  French aircraft attack Stuttgart (no damage). <telegram from
Stuttgart>
     _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.258.

  CP aircraft attack the lower Isonzo area, including Grado Lagoon (3
killed, "a few" wounded, "some" damage). <Italian communique>
  Italian aircraft attack CP positions on COl Santo (n of Mount
Pasubio). <Italian communique>
     _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.259.

-- British Losses --

* Morane? No.? (No.3 Sqn) hit by ground fire
  WIA: Cleaver, 2Lt C. T.
     Trevor Henshaw, _The Sky Their Battlefield_ (London: Grub Street,
     1995), p.117.

* BE2c No.4494 (No.16 Sqn) listed as MIA
  WIA/POW: Kennard, 2Lt C. (escaped Aug 1918)
  POW: Digby, 1AM B. C.
     Henshaw, p.117; _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.258.

***************** WWI in the Air (9 Oct 1916) *****************

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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:25:30 -0700
From: Jack Berlien <a0186964@dsbs15.itg.ti.com>
To: wwi
Subject: re: Teeny drills
Message-ID: <BMSMTP8448746266a0186964@dsbs15.itg.ti.com>

Seriously, how do you drill a hole with a .004" drill? (don't say "very
carefully"! ;-)

Best regards,

Jack

****************************************************
Jack Berlien
214-995-3257
Email: j-berlien@ti.com
"A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer."

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Original text

From: BOBFABRIS@delphi.com, on 10/9/96 12:40 AM:
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Len asked about drill smaller than No. 80.
Head for a watchmaker supply house. Ask about Mascot@ Pivot Drills.  These 
start at .004 dia, where #80 is .014.  In even values, there are 5 smaller
than the #80.  The drills have a flat on one side.  They also make spiral
drills in the same sizes.
As an aside, try and get a catalog.  Grobert File Co. prints one, and puts
a suppliers name on the cover.  All the multitude of tools used in the
watch repair and small jewelry business. (oops, misspelled Grobet :(  )



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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:59:53 -0400
From: Carlos Valdes <carlos.valdes@conted.gatech.edu>
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Back home
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961009082148.3c1fb9dc@conted.swann.gatech.edu>

Matt,
        Can do; will send it soon.
                        Carlos


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Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 12:09:11 -0700
From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" <homanger@host.dmsc.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Monday, 9 October 1916, Cazaux
Message-ID: <325BF857.23CD@host.dmsc.net>

Good day. No work all day because others failed to show up. Wrote to Genet Bloodgood in 
a.m. Major Parker came unexpectedly from Paris and arrived at noon to see me. Went 
around with him the Captains, and some officers to see place in p.m. Mighty glad to see 
him. He'll do lots to help me get along over here. Left in late pm. Letters from Dear 
little Mother, Patrina, & Paul Rockwell. Hope I get the 30 dollars from Uncle Clair I've 
sent for and about 50 from Mother.

*************************

from the diaries of E.C.C. Genet, Escadrille Lafayette 

[note: Genet's diaries contain frequent mispellings, missing words, etc-- the editor  
presevered such errors, and I have always done the same here. I reread each entry to 
make sure all errors are intact!--   as to complaints that these entries are frequently 
tedious, well, so was the training.  Things will pick up.  --Bradley]

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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:12:33 +1000 (EST)
From: Mick Fauchon <ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au>
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <wwi>
Subject: Re: Lewis Guns/Sorta Off Topic
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9610101112.A21118-0100000@dewey.newcastle.edu.au>



	Riordan,


>      Did Rudolf Berthold fly in the Baltic states during his stint with the 
>      Freikorps after the War? 

	Yes, apparently he did, with his own "private" Freikorps. 
Unfortunately he was murdered by Communists in Hamburg [I'm sorry to say 80(]
in 1920.



								Cheers,

								Mick.



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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 00:25:25 -0400
From: "S.M. Head" <smh@iapc.net>
To: wwi
Subject: Maxim machine gun?
Message-ID:  <9610092334.aa10633@mail.iapc.net>

Hello all,

Was the Maxim the basis for the Hotchkiss? I was told this by a friend, and
I realize the many Maxims formed the basis for many other designs foreign
and domestic, but which ones were they?

Cheers!

Scott M. Head
IPMS/USA #32841
IPMS Houston Scale Model Forum
http://web-hou.iapc.net/~smh

Win95=Mac'87 ;)



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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:29:58 +0000
From: rojo1@concentric.net
To: wwi
Subject: Chandelle
Message-ID: <199610100533.BAA26660@cliff.cris.com>

For those who missed Number 1 (August/September), I have now added a 
"Back issues" link to the table of contents.  The URL is 
http://www.concentric.net/~rojo1.




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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:57:41 +1000 (EST)
From: Mick Fauchon <ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au>
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <wwi>
Subject: Re: Maxim machine gun?
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9610101512.A24079-0100000@dewey.newcastle.edu.au>



	Scott,

> Was the Maxim the basis for the Hotchkiss?

	The maxim [heh-heh 80)] is, no.

 I was told this by a friend, and
> I realize the many Maxims formed the basis for many other designs foreign
> and domestic, but which ones were they?

	THe ones that spring to mind are the Vickers, the MG/LMG-08(/15)
[erroneously called "Spandau"], and the Russian Maksim; all are versions of
the basic Maxim action.


								Cheers,

								Mick.


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Mick Fauchon                          | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au
Reference Section, Auchmuty Library   | Ph  (intl+61+49) 215861
University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA    | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833

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