WWI Digest 285 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: help by "Valenciano . Jose" 2) WWI in the Air (8 Oct 1916) by Paul Silbermann 3) RE: Fritz Kempf by "PETER KILDUFF, UNIVERSITY RELATIONS, 21791" 4) Scale Models and Albatros by meba@cso.com 5) Scale Models and A-H Aces by meba@cso.com 6) Re: Rigging by MCCLURE@skynet.litc.lockheed.com 7) Largish Database by Graham Nash 8) Re: Largish Database by Rob 9) Re: Rigging by Rob 10) Back home by Carlos Valdes 11) Re: Largish Database by Carlos Valdes 12) Calling Ken H. by Carlos Valdes 13) Rigging: 0.010" and smaller wire by Robert Godfrey 14) Songs by RedBaron12@aol.com 15) Re: Rigging: 0.010" and smaller wire by Rob 16) Re: Rigging by JimMaas@aol.com 17) Rigging: RAFwires by Rob 18) Re: Rigging by DavidL1217@aol.com 19) Re: Scale Models and Albatros by cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) 20) Re: Scale Models and A-H Aces by cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) 21) Re: help by roger belanger 22) Re: Rigging: 0.010" and smaller wire by Jack Berlien 23) Re: Rigging: 0.010" and smaller wire by Rob 24) Re: Songs by bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 25) Re: Jasta 35B by Mick Fauchon 26) RE: help by Mick Fauchon 27) Drills smaller than #80? by "Leonard Endy" 28) Re: Rigging by Mick Fauchon 29) Gotha support group by "Shelley Goodwin" 30) Sunday, 8 October 1916, Bordeaux, Arachen, Cazaux by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 31) Teeny drills by BOBFABRIS@delphi.com 32) Re: Largish Database by breuer@itz-koeln.de (Dietmar Breuer) 33) Re: Back home by mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:28:14 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: help Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Mick Fauchon wrote: > > Aircraft in Plastic Card" Much of the meat of this volume was published > > in the old Airfix Magazine in the '70s and I also have *those* available if > > you want them. This one's a "must read" for me and I strongly recommend it to others. The problem is that it's out of print! ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 96 08:03:04 EDT From: Paul Silbermann To: WWI list , , Subject: WWI in the Air (8 Oct 1916) Message-ID: <199610081201.IAA01718@pease1.sr.unh.edu> 10/8/1916 German air service reorganized as the Luftstreitkrafte. Trevor Henshaw, _The Sky Their Battlefield_ (London: Grub Street, 1995), p.116. CP aircraft attack Bucharest. CP aircraft attack Grigne (Sugana Valley), Monfalcone, Cervignano, Torre Zuino, Grado Lagoon, and areas in the Upper Fella Valley. _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.258. -- night of 8/9 Oct -- 1 CP aircraft attacks Avolona (no damage reported). _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.258. -- British Losses -- * ? (type) No.? (? Sqn) aircraft collapsed due to structural failure during pullout from a steep dive. (Inquest found that the accident was caused by excessive speed from the dive). Killed: Baker, 2Lt Harold (RFC; Canadian) _Aeronautics_ (London), 18 Oct 1916, p.261. ***************** WWI in the Air (8 Oct 1916) ***************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 8:11:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "PETER KILDUFF, UNIVERSITY RELATIONS, 21791" To: wwi Subject: RE: Fritz Kempf Message-ID: <961008081109.22a2b819@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> In response to: >Peter, this is what I was looking for. Any chance I could get you (or someone) >to Xerox the artical for me? Or, can you tell me how to obtain the volume? You >mentioned single issues were not available, how many are in the volume? (and >let me know the cost also). >Thanks and best regards, >Jack >FYI, there's a mini-bio of Fritz Kempf in the Winter '89 OVER THE FRONT. >Also a photo of his Dr.I and slogan ("Kennscht mi noch?" in the dialect of his >native Grand Duchy of Baden), reinforced by gorgeous line drawings of Kempf's >'plane and other a/c of fliers from Baden -- done by the youngest of the old >Dutch Master Artists, Greg VanWyngarden. ********************* I believe this information was provided to you, but will repeat in case it got lost: Vol. 4 of OTF is available for $42. Please send check made payable to "The League of WW I Aviation Historians" to: OTF Membership Secretary P.O. Box 2475 Rockford, IL 61132-0475 Other back volumes available (same price, same address) are #3 (1988), #5 (1990), #6 (1991), #7 (1992), #8 (1993), #9 (1994), #10 (1995). Current volume (#11 1996) is $37 on a subscription basis; First 2 issues are out, #3 due out any time now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:03:35 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Scale Models and Albatros Message-ID: <199610080803.IAA03418@cso.com> I'm looking for photocopies (or originals, when I can get them) of the Albatros Two-Seaters series that appeared in early Scale Models. I have the following: #3, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 14; so I'm looking for: #1, 2, 4, 8, 9, 13. TIA! Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:08:03 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Scale Models and A-H Aces Message-ID: <199610080808.IAA03880@cso.com> I'm looking to complete my run of the Scale Models series on A-H aces as authored by the late Dr. Martin O'Connor. I realise that his book on the aces is more comprehensive, but there are a couple in the Scale Models series that aren't covered by the book. Anyways...I have #4, 5, 6, 7, 10 and 11; I'm looking for #1, 2, 3, 8, 9, and if there were any after #11. I would prefer original magazines; however, photocopes are accepted, especially if you can color copy any of the color plates. TIA! Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 6:53:23 -0700 (PDT) From: MCCLURE@skynet.litc.lockheed.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging Message-ID: <961008065323.2022b446@skynet.litc.lockheed.com> This may be just a bit radical of an idea, but if you could restrict the flow of air from a blow dryer to a fairly small area, you could use that to quickly dry the white glue to a point where you wouldn't have to hold the wire in place. However, if the plastic is too thin or heat sensitive you might end up with a bigger problem. Kent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 15:20:21 -0700 From: Graham Nash To: wwi Subject: Largish Database Message-ID: <199610081422.AA01448@egate.citicorp.com> After a year or so of lurking, thought I'd come out of the trenches and see if any of your subscribers would like a gratis copy of an Access 2 database of the whereabouts of articles/pictures/3 views/colour pics on our favorite subject. The basis of the database was 'The Reference Source Guide to Military Aeroplanes 1914-1918, by B.E.Ketley, published by Hikoki Publications, but corrected by myself if I was able to get the actual source magazines or books. The book had a limited run of 750 copies. If this offer breaches any copyright then forget it... Alas, it is not up to date with respect to all periodicals, but I would be happy to update given some input. I have also expanded the database to cover kits,colour mixes,most decals (I've largely ignored 1/48th scale decals, sorry)! Total zipped size is just under 1.8 meg, unzipped just over 5.1 meg. Please be aware that I've not transferred files via the internet before now so bear with me. Rgds ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:41:43 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Largish Database Message-ID: <9610080842.aa12326@scosysv.speechsys.com> Graham: You write: > After a year or so of lurking, thought I'd come out of the trenches and > see if any of your subscribers would like a gratis copy of an Access 2 > database of the whereabouts of articles/pictures/3 views/colour pics on > our favorite subject. I'd like a copy. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:45:19 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging Message-ID: <9610080846.aa12354@scosysv.speechsys.com> Kent writes: > This may be just a bit radical of an idea, but if you could restrict the > flow of air from a blow dryer to a fairly small area, you could use that > to quickly dry the white glue to a point where you wouldn't have to hold > the wire in place. A truly terrifying idea. How about using the yellow glue marketed as Professional Woodworkers Glue? It is higher tack and faster setting, but shares most of the other properties of white glue. Another alternative would be the "tacky glue" sold for decoupage and such. It dries clear and has a VERY high tack. I've used it to attach clear canopies and for temporary assembly of parts that will be superglued later. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:21:42 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Back home Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961008124336.2927500c@conted.swann.gatech.edu> I got back this weekend from my three-week stay in Japan, tired but satisfied. I had a great time over there--Japan can be both beautiful and ugly, depending on where you look, but it is just about always interesting. I spent most of my time sightseeing, but did make my way to several book and hobby shops where I did a good amount of purchasing. The bad news is that I found precious little on our favorite conflict, but that is not to say that I came home empty handed with regards to WWI stuff. I picked up a recent copy of France's Replic magazine--the first I had ever seen--with a good article on the Eduard Albatros D.V; I also got a ten-year-old copy of a Model Art issue with a couple of so-so articles on the planes of MvR and some others. Interestingly, I came across two Albatros publications at decent prices, which I proceeded to snatch up: the 1 1/2 Strutter datafile and the Aces and Aeroplanes entry on McCudden--not an easy one to find. As for kits, the only ones I saw were three repackaged DML entries: Fonck's Spad XIII, Goering's Fokker D.VII, and Udet's striped Dr.I, but with the wrong colors. Finally, my main acquisition--actually bought for me as a Christmas gift by my wife!--was the 1/48 photoetched Fokker Dr.I skeleton kit. Every store that carried it had on built up on display, and it does look good, even though everything--except for the red-painted cowling-engine combination--is flat, including the guns, tires, and prop! These can all be replaced, of course, but even if they aren't the overall effect is still quite impressive, and the kit even comes with its own base. It was not cheap, but it sure was more affordable over there than it would be over here if the US prices I have heard are correct. Oh yes, I also visited the Mikasa. It wan't in original condition, but it still made for a wonderful naval museum. And what a great collection of ship models it contained. . . Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:29:43 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: Largish Database Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961008125137.29271ee2@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Graham, I'll take a copy. Thanks. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:33:19 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Calling Ken H. Message-ID: <2.2.16.19961008125517.29279a38@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Sorry to use the list for a personal message, but I need to contact Ken H. and I've lost his e-mail address. Ken, if you see this, please drop me a line. Thanks. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:35:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Godfrey To: wwi Subject: Rigging: 0.010" and smaller wire Message-ID: <199610082135.QAA18586@guitar.sound.net> Greetings I've been following this thread with keen interest. First of all (after 20 years), it had just occurred to me a few weeks ago that I might use real wire for the wire rigging for better realism on even a 1/72 scale instead of the 6-0 surgical silk suture (0.004") I have been using . I rummaged through my electrical supplies and found some heavy guage wire that was multistranded. I cut off the insulation and found this particular wire was made up of 40-50 perfectly smooth and straight "tinned" (silver-colored) copper strands of wire. When I got a 6" segment all taken apart, I found the strands are 0.010" in diameter which isn't too bad for some uses, but seems a bit too thick for wing wires and other braces (but maybe not for control operating cables) at 1/72. 10 should be great for 1/42 though. Since it comes in a large roll, you could make your wires any length you want them, a-n-d it's dirt cheap. A possible down side is that copper is so malleable and soft it has to be cut to perfect length and attached with great care to keep it from bending. I should think stainless steel would be better for this application given the choice. Now I'm going to get some smaller guage wire to see if the strands inside are smaller. I'd like to get 0.05" at most since it looks better to me. How thick in inches (I don't have a metric micrometer) should wire be to be in scale for 1/72 models? . The glue thing is very interesting too. I was thinking of getting some of that fast setting CA glue to hold rigging lines quickly. Now I'll experiment with Elmer's and the yellow carpenters'. Where would you get the very tacky glue mentioned by Rob for "decoupage," whatever that is? I'll let you know if I find something good in early November after I get back from "vacation" (beginning Oct. 19th) out in the California desert. My best to you all, Bob G. rgodfrey@sound.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:42:00 -0400 From: RedBaron12@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Songs Message-ID: <961008174159_121888079@emout03.mail.aol.com> I'm looking for a site that has audio tracks of the WWI aviators songs. I caught some of them on the History Channel special recently and would like to find out where I might obtain copies of their songs. Any suggestions? Mike (A WWI R/C Enthusiast, the ONLY one at the flying field!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:09:23 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging: 0.010" and smaller wire Message-ID: <9610081610.aa15482@scosysv.speechsys.com> Bob G. writes: >Where would you get the > very tacky glue mentioned by Rob for "decoupage," whatever that is? Decoupage is some sort of glue-intensive ladies' craft. You get the glue at craft stores or, possibly, sewing stores catering to this trade (dry-flower arranging, doll houses, macrame, stained glass, beads, stone-timbling, etc.). I use a brand called Aleen's Tacky Glue that I get from a chain called Hobby Lobby. It comes in several grades of tackiness, though I've never seen much difference myself. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:16:22 -0400 From: JimMaas@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging Message-ID: <961008181621_328967390@emout01.mail.aol.com> I'm still puzzled that folks are not picking up on the ceramic wire available through Precision Imports-it's a hellava lot easier to use than anything else I've run into (and this is from someone that rigged aMerit/Smer DH-2 with stretched sprue...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:18:52 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Rigging: RAFwires Message-ID: <9610081619.aa15562@scosysv.speechsys.com> I make 1/48-scale airfoil-section RAFwires by grinding down .010 steel piano wire. I clamp the wire to a length of board and then run a motortool sanding drum down the length, spraying sparks and making terrible smells and noises. Generally I don't keep it even for more than 6-10 inches, but this is usually plenty for a length of rigging. The resulting RAFwires may be a little overscale (I haven't checked), but they look great. Just be aware that RAFwires aren't appropriate for all WW1 airplanes. To fasten the wire in place, I drill holes at the desired locations and then spring a slightly over-long piece of mini-RAFwire into place. If I can do so without making a mess, I secure it with a drop of CA, though it usually isn't necessary. If you can get some, you might consider stainless-steel surgical suture for stranded-cable rigging. It is just that--miniature wire rope used, I think, for orthopedic surgery. I get mine from time- expired stock at my wife's employer, so I have never had enough to rig an airplane. It is soft like thread. It looks nice though. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:19:36 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging Message-ID: <961008181935_1379522355@emout19.mail.aol.com> Precision Enterprises (ad in Fine Scale Modeler) sells a nifty .006 ceramic rigging fibre for $4.95 for 10 ft. Measure with dividers, snip, and attach with Elmers. Great stuff. Paint it in steel gray, it's excellent. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 96 18:22:24 EDT From: cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) To: wwi Subject: Re: Scale Models and Albatros Message-ID: <199610082222.SAA06334@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Matt, I've got #4 and can copy it for you. What's your address? Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 96 18:29:44 EDT From: cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) To: wwi Subject: Re: Scale Models and A-H Aces Message-ID: <199610082229.SAA06357@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Matt, I have copies of the articles you want. If you can't find the originals and don't mind copies of copies (which unfortunately are not of the best quality), let me know. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 18:34:47 -0400 From: roger belanger To: wwi Subject: Re: help Message-ID: <325AD707.827@concentric.net> Matthew E Bittner wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:51:34 -0400 roger belanger > writes: > > > Can anyone give me any info on how to assemble a vaccum > > form kit . The one that I have has no thickness to th > > wings do you use them as is or add filler to them toi give > > them more thickness . It looks to me as though there is > > not much to one of these kits . I am willing to make and > > add parts but there is'nt much to start with . Roger B. > > Please, do not add filler. The one aspect to WW1 aviation > was how "small" and "thin" everything was. Most injected > plastic kits are much too thick in this regards, and it is > here were vac's shine. Wonderfully thin wings. > > Due to the "molding process" there is usually not much to a > vac. Most parts have to be supplied either through the > manufacturer through injected plastic, resin or white > metal. Or, they have to be scratched by the builder. > > Which kit are you building? I bet there is at least one > person on this list that has built it. > > As far as "how do I build it", after you sand the parts > out, the difficult part is done. Just build it as you > would an injected kit. One word of warning though: use > CA, as liquid cement will harm a good percentage of these > kits. This is where being thin has its disadvantage. > > Just keep you chin up, and we're here to help. Good luck! > > Matt > mbittner@juno.com I am building the Classic Planes 1 1/2 Sopwith Strutter Thanks for the reply I'll give it my best shot and will let you know how I make it Roger B. -- ROGER BELANGER A job worth doing is a job worth doing well ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:46:41 -0700 From: Jack Berlien To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging: 0.010" and smaller wire Message-ID: I'm still confused about how this works. I have only used very fine nylon thread and drilled holes for rigging (in my limited experience) so please excuse my ignorance on the more common methods. About the white glue / ac approach: How do you hold the line taut while the glue is drying? Aren't you left with a visible blob of glue where the line is attached? (I haven't seen blobs on any of your models on the web sight!) Best regards, Jack **************************************************** Jack Berlien 214-995-3257 Email: j-berlien@ti.com "A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer." ------------------ Original text From: Rob , on 10/8/96 6:08 PM: To: Multiple recipients of list Bob G. writes: >Where would you get the > very tacky glue mentioned by Rob for "decoupage," whatever that is? Decoupage is some sort of glue-intensive ladies' craft. You get the glue at craft stores or, possibly, sewing stores catering to this trade (dry-flower arranging, doll houses, macrame, stained glass, beads, stone-timbling, etc.). I use a brand called Aleen's Tacky Glue that I get from a chain called Hobby Lobby. It comes in several grades of tackiness, though I've never seen much difference myself. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:26:44 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Rigging: 0.010" and smaller wire Message-ID: <9610081727.aa16008@scosysv.speechsys.com> Jack Berlien writes: > I'm still confused about how this works. I have only used very fine nylon > thread and drilled holes for rigging (in my limited experience) so please > excuse my ignorance on the more common methods. About the white glue / ac > approach: How do you hold the line taut while the glue is drying? You don't--if it's the right kind of wire, it is stiff enough to stay straight on its own. Just drill loater holes to take the ends. >Aren't you left with a visible blob of glue where the line is attached? Only if you use way too much. The white glues dry clear. If you aren't drilling locter holes, though, I suspect that you will have trouble getting a good bond. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:45:21 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@mail.prolog.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Songs Message-ID: <199610082345.TAA24788@ns1.ptd.net> At 05:44 PM 10/8/96 -0400, RedBaron12@aol.com wrote: >I'm looking for a site that has audio tracks of the WWI aviators songs. I >caught some of them on the History Channel special recently and would like to >find out where I might obtain copies of their songs. > >Any suggestions? Randy Gaulke has collected a bunch of WWI songs anmd put them together on a tape/maybe even a CD. He can probably be contacted through Peter K since Randy is pretty active in OTF. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:35:01 +1000 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Jasta 35B Message-ID: Jim, > I just got the Pfalz D.XII, and in looking around for a 'different' scheme > found a plywood-fuselage aircraft from Jasta 35(Bavarian). It has an > outlines fuselage band and a 'Mercedes' style three pointed star on the > fuselage. If we've got the same machine, it's D.XII [14]43/18 (the first two numerals are obscured by the colour-band), variously attributed to Jasta 35 or Jasta 5 [IMHO, spuriously]. The fuselage is all-over Silbergrau, with the "Mercedes" insignia ahead of the cross. aft of it a white band, thinly edged in red; the tail [apart from the rudder] is dark green, as are the wheel covers; wings are lozenge upper-surface, light blue undersurface; possible white chevreon centrsal on upper surface top wing, black chevron lower surface of bottom wing, if Jasta 35(b). The dark colour under the chin *could* be dark green, as the tail- unit, but it doesn't seem to appear on this or any other Jast 35 aircraft. I've seen references to the fuselage band being a Jasta marking > for this unit, but it also looks like the nose (under the radiator) and the > tail unit are in a dark color. It seems too dark for the traditional > Bavarian light blue. Any ideas? > That's about it for the ideas department. Cheers, Mick. Disclaimer: I don't profess to be an expert on Bavarian Jastas... ......or Bavarians 80) -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:46:05 +1000 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: help Message-ID: Jose, > On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Mick Fauchon wrote: > > > > Aircraft in Plastic Card" Much of the meat of this volume was published > > > in the old Airfix Magazine in the '70s and I also have *those* available if > > > you want them. No, no.....please, no.....that was Shane: *he'* got it. *I* want it > > This one's a "must read" for me and I strongly recommend it to others. The > problem is that it's out of print! > Yep, that's the problem 80( Cheers, Mick. -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 22:50:24 Eastern Daylight Time From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: Drills smaller than #80? Message-ID: <19961008225024.152b5fc2.in@legend.firstsaga.com> With all the discussion concerning rigging I though I would pose another question concerning drill bits. The smallest I've been able to find are the #80's which are a bit (pun intended> big at times. I seem to remember reading somewhere that smaller bits are available...anyone have any idea as to where from ? What are other members of the list using ? Len lfendy@firstsaga.com _ Running Windows is better than washing them. QWicKeSST - The ultimate database QWK reader, and NO limits. #$678803 Special Compile: 1.032B (Beta) >> Slipstream Jet - The QWK solution for Usenets #$678803 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:01:31 +1000 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Rigging Message-ID: > I'm still puzzled that folks are not picking up on the ceramic wire available > through Precision Imports-it's a hellava lot easier to use than anything else > I've run into (and this is from someone that rigged aMerit/Smer DH-2 with > stretched sprue...) Jim's absolutely right.....I can highly recommend it, even if my stocks are limited.....Thanks, Jim 80) Cheers, Mick. > -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 96 19:56:47 PST From: "Shelley Goodwin" To: wwi Subject: Gotha support group Message-ID: <9609088448.AA844830465@mx.Ricochet.net> Gothaphile, If you are a true Grossfleugzeuge fiend, I recommend finding a copy of Friedette's out-of-print "The Sky On Fire", as well as acquiring the Datafile special at the best price possible(as I didn't). Also, think about getting a 1/72 Rareplane Gotha vac, white metal bits and RPM PuW bomb set-not near the torture of the K&B kit, but accurate. YT, Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 23:32:54 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Sunday, 8 October 1916, Bordeaux, Arachen, Cazaux Message-ID: <325B4716.531E@host.dmsc.net> Fair day. Got up about 8 a.m. and took 10:45 train for Arachen. Arrived about 12:30 and had luncheon and strolled around all afternoon. Quite an attractive resort and many people about still altho the season is rather late. Feeling almighty blue and down-hearted on account of not hearing from darling Gertrude for so long. Am altogether lonely for her. Back at Cazaux by 9 p.m. Found pile of letters for me but none from Gerty. Letters from Mother, Genet B. (with photos) Betty (photos) Major P., Zinn, Lovell, Leah W., Helen Harper & others. Helen is hardly 17 and must be quite pretty. ************************* from the diaries of E.C.C. Genet, Escadrille Lafayette ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 00:40:25 -0500 (EST) From: BOBFABRIS@delphi.com To: wwi Subject: Teeny drills Message-ID: <01IAF4GZMTG28Y7OC4@delphi.com> Len asked about drill smaller than No. 80. Head for a watchmaker supply house. Ask about Mascot@ Pivot Drills. These start at .004 dia, where #80 is .014. In even values, there are 5 smaller than the #80. The drills have a flat on one side. They also make spiral drills in the same sizes. As an aside, try and get a catalog. Grobert File Co. prints one, and puts a suppliers name on the cover. All the multitude of tools used in the watch repair and small jewelry business. (oops, misspelled Grobet :( ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:27:45 GMT From: breuer@itz-koeln.de (Dietmar Breuer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Largish Database Message-ID: <199610090627.GAA01886@ns.itz-koeln.de> Graham, I would like a copy. TIA Dietmar (breuer@itz-koeln.de) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Dietmar Breuer =20 Informationstechnik-Zentrum K=F6ln Eupener Stra=DFe 150 50933 K=F6ln Tel: 0221 - 49707 24 =20 Fax: 0221 - 49707 12 EMail: breuer@itz-koeln.de =20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 00:55:51 EDT From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) To: wwi Subject: Re: Back home Message-ID: <19961008.200217.4447.2.mbittner@juno.com> On Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:22:47 -0400 Carlos Valdes writes: > I spent most of my time sightseeing, but did make my way > to several book and hobby shops where I did a good amount > of purchasing. The bad news is that I found precious > little on our favorite conflict, but that is not to say > that I came home empty handed with regards to WWI stuff. I > picked up a recent copy of France's Replic magazine--the > first I had ever seen--with a good article on the Eduard > Albatros D.V; I also got a ten-year-old copy of a Model > Art issue with a couple of so-so articles on the planes of > MvR and some others. Interestingly, I came across two > Albatros publications at decent prices, which I proceeded > to snatch up: the 1 1/2 Strutter datafile and the Aces and > Aeroplanes entry on McCudden--not an easy one to find. Welcome back! Glad you were able to find a few things. Question: could you photocopy the Eduard Albatros D.V article for me and send it my way? If so, here's my address: Matt Bittner 11213 Y St Omaha NE 68137 Again, TIA if you're able to do this! Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 285 *********************