WWI Digest 269 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Four Years of Thunder by meba@cso.com 2) Various replies, part 3 by meba@cso.com 3) Various replies, part 2 by meba@cso.com 4) Various replies by meba@cso.com 5) Latest IPMS Journal by meba@cso.com 6) Sunday, 24 September 1916, Pau by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 7) Cross and Cockade USA for sale by meba@cso.com 8) Re: Four Years of Thunder by Robert Godfrey 9) (Fwd) Cammo & Markings Section by meba@cso.com 10) Warcars! by aew (Allan Wright) 11) Re: Warcars! by MCCLURE@force.litc.lockheed.com 12) Re: Warcars! by Rob 13) Re: Four Years of Thunder by djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) 14) ADV: New web hobby shop. by john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) 15) Re: ADV: New web hobby shop. by jsthorn@mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) 16) Eduard Strip Down Series by knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 17) Re: Latest IPMS Journal by iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) 18) Re: Warcars! by iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) 19) Re: Americal/Gryphon by Alberto Rada 20) Re: Americal/Gryphon by bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 21) Re: Americal/Gryphon by aew (Allan Wright) 22) Re: Warcars! by aew (Allan Wright) 23) FAQ update by meba@cso.com 24) Re: FAQ update by aew (Allan Wright) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:03:01 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Four Years of Thunder Message-ID: <199609240900.JAA19044@cso.com> Talk about getting lucky. I was on vacation to my parent's place, and their new cable service has The History Channel. Managed to tape the Saturday "all day" showing. Also managed to watch the first hour and a half, and it looked wonderful. What I want to know, though, is why the Rhinebeck Nie.11 had both ailerons dropped? Was this still "under construction" while taping, or is there something I don't know? Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:15:26 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Various replies, part 3 Message-ID: <199609240912.JAA19749@cso.com> This is a short reply to digest 267. ------------------------------ From: GRBroman@aol.com Subject: WW I Artillry (Southern Spelling) > This following piece was lifted from the Chapter contacts column > of our monthly IPMS newsletter. Bob Horton is the author and as > you may guess, is a veteran of the U.S. Artillery (Yankee > spelling) who served in the Korean war. Bob is also a > scratchbuilder and converter of some repute, his aircraft are > incredible. Nearly all 1/48 scratchbuilt. Anyway, on to the > column. So, Glen, have they made plans/drawings of these? If so, can we get some for our own purposes? Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:15:04 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Various replies, part 2 Message-ID: <199609240911.JAA19698@cso.com> Once again, a mulit-reply to digest 265. ------------------------------ From: bobmills@MSIS.dmso.mil (Robert J. Mills, Jr.) Subject: WW I Modelers Library (Was: Top five books and models) > A Proposal for Group Discussion/Decision: Great idea, Rob! Best of luck. How are you planning on handling the Datafiles, since those I would consider must haves for the "serious" WW1 modeler. Are you planning on two lists, one for out of prints, and one for currently availables? > I would be willing to take on the task of consolidating the > library entries and maintaining the FAQ section if the group > decides to this task on. However, the ultimate success of this > proposal depends on contributions from across the group--my own > WWI library is too small to do more than start the effort. These are great starts, btw. Let me know when you're ready to add it to the FAQ, and I'll add a section to it. Do you want to add it as text, or as a pointer to a file (for example, "this section of the FAQ can be found at blah-blah-blah). > If anyone else would like to contribute publication entries > please e-mail them directly to me rather than clutter up the > list--I'll consolidate and make available to the list. It could take awhile. Let us know how you want to handle currently available, and out of print. ------------------------------ From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) Subject: Re: WW I Modelers Library (Was: Top five books and models) > Sounds like a good idea. I would suggest that we limit > the books to those that would help in modeling. There are lost > of other bibliographies around that deal w/WWI aviation, but > none I am aware of that are designed to help modelers. Your > suggestions are all good ones. I'll look through my stuff and > send some to you. I would agree, in part. Maybe, Rob, split this up into "modeling interests" and "non-modeling", or "general history". Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:03:48 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Various replies Message-ID: <199609240900.JAA19064@cso.com> Well, I'm back from vacation. Here are my replies to digest 264. ------------------------------ From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) Subject: Top five books and models > I thought I'd canvas (WWI airplane humor- sorry) the list and > ask what people feel are the top five books that cover our field > of interest and what top five kits would you recommend to > someone just starting into the WWI modeling hobby. 1) This > might be an interesting topic for Allan's home page as someone > browses through the pages and would like to get started doing > WWI modelling and 2) let you know of a model or book that you > should look at as adding to your own collection - given past > comments I don't think Merlin's Gotha or Glencoes Albatros DIII > would make the list. Hey, that's a great idea. However, also see Rob's idea which I think is the best idea for the books (see the next reply from me). So, who's going to keep track of this? I would, but I'm stretched kind of thin right now. If someone else keeps track of this, then I'll add it to the ever increasing FAQ. I'm thinking about availability, ease of construction, affordibility, and general accuriteness (word, sp?) when I list these (all 1/72nd): Revell Fokker Dr.I Revell Fokker D.VII Revell Nieuport 28 Airfix LFG Roland C.II Airfix Sopwith Pup Also, since I've only built one 1/48th plane, I can recommend that to the 1/48th modeler: DML Fokker Dr.I ------------------------------ From: aew (Allan Wright) Subject: Re: Top five books and models > Well I would include Lambpert & Chessman's "Fighter Aircraft of > the 1914-1918 War" as a must reference. Might I recommend only listing those books that are available? If we start listing all books, then the new person to our field will frustrate him/herself trying to look for out of print books. Or, with Rob's info we can split it off into "currently in print" and "currently out of print" sections. ------------------------------ From: Jack Berlien Subject: Re: Top five books and models > Hey, and to remove bias, I think we'd better make two lists: top > 5 1/72 AND top 5 1/48! ;) Great idea! ------------------------------ From: aew (Allan Wright) Subject: Matt's Pictures > I've added scans of Matt Bittner's models to the WWW page. > Enjoy. Thanks, Al. > P.S. Matt, I'll have your pictures in the mail tomorrow. Thanks, Al, they came through ok. ------------------------------ From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) Subject: Top 5 models/books > Revel Nieuport 17: Hard to find, but easy to make. Might I make the suggestion to keep the list to those kits that are readily available, and can make a good fascimile when built. Granted, there is less to do to a Revell Nie.17 to make it accurate, but less than the Albatros D.III. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:55:04 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Latest IPMS Journal Message-ID: <199609241155.LAA07418@cso.com> Just going through the IPMS Journal - the one with the Nationals coverage - and it brought a few things to mind. The first place entries look great. Unfortunately, the journal doesn't show the rest, but they're bound to be great. I don't see any names I recognise, except for Karen Rychlewski who has had numerous photo's in Windsock. The split I find unfortunate is on the 1/48th side: Fokkers and all others. Gads, are we getting to be like those 109 fanatics, that we have tunnel vision? ;-) An ad for Eduard is interesting: the show not only the Sopwith Triplane, but the Pfalz as well. And, get the next "skeleton": a Camel. Why, why, why? We need a new Camel that is a "complete" kit and not a skeleton. Oh, and get this. Looks like Eduard isn't satisfied with just WW1. The ad shows what I think is a Typhoon. However, the ad does show an Albatros D.III, so there is good news there. Rant and rave, rant and rave. Now to get someone to come out with an accurate *1/72nd*, injected Albatros D.III. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:24:49 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Sunday, 24 September 1916, Pau Message-ID: <32484391.14F4@host.dmsc.net> Glorious day. No work all day. Had permission for the day to go to Biarritz, a dandy sea side resort on the Bay of Biscay but had no money to go with so stayed at camp. Wrote to Maj. Parker, Mr. Slade, and Walter Lovell in a.m. after getting out of bed late. Wish I'd have had money to go to Biarritz as its a lovely place with lots of people and lots to see. Wrote letters to Jeanette H. and Paul Rockwell in p.m. Just a year ago we were prepared to make the big Champagne attack on the morrow. How well I remember that last night of expectancy and hope! Took bath in late p.m. and found it a rare delight. *************************** AN AMERICAN FOR LAFAYETTE, THE DIARIES OF E.C.C. GENET, LAFAYETTE ESCADRILLE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:28:02 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Cross and Cockade USA for sale Message-ID: <199609241223.MAA09382@cso.com> The following found on r.m.s. On stipulation, however. Whomever buys it must supply to the list whenever we want. Bwahahahahahah!! ;-) ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Subject: Cross and Cockade USA for sale Date: 24 Sep 1996 13:40:10 GMT From: lsmodels@ix.netcom.com(MIKE AND LAURIE WEST) Newsgroups: rec.models.scale _________________________________________________________________ Full set of Cross and Cockade Journal USA for sale 1960 thru 1985 over 100 issues plus indexs for vol 1 thru 5 . $1500.00 or best offer. Sent COD freigft in cont. US only. Lone Star Models 13758 Drakewood Sugarland,Texas 77478 lsmodels@ix.netcom.com Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:33:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Godfrey To: wwi Subject: Re: Four Years of Thunder Message-ID: <199609241833.NAA02051@guitar.sound.net> At 11:06 AM 9/24/96 -0400, you wrote: >Talk about getting lucky. > >I was on vacation to my parent's place, and their new cable service >has The History Channel. Managed to tape the Saturday "all day" >showing. Also managed to watch the first hour and a half, and it >looked wonderful. > >What I want to know, though, is why the Rhinebeck Nie.11 had both >ailerons dropped? Was this still "under construction" while taping, >or is there something I don't know? > > >Matt >meba@cso.com > _________________________ Matt Now that you mention it I think I noticed that too, but it didn't really register. The only thing I can think of is that the control cables were broken or disconnected so the ailerons both flopped down. Or maybe neither one of us knows it was some secret device to increase the rate of climb :-) While I'm at it, one last comment on the series. It turned out there were only 4 "1 hour" segments with about 10 min. of commercials in each, hence the whole thing came to about 3 hours and 20 min. I don't know why that required 4 tapes in the $60 (+S&H) HC set except to increase profits. As someone else commented you could get the whole thing on 1 or 2 tapes depending on the taping speed, but -f-o-u-r- ?? Anyway, although I taped it myself on one tape (minus the commercials), I think it was worth it for those who bought the set since it has a lot of information that's both interesting and useful, even stuff like the serial number off Werner Voss' Dr. 1. Regards. Bob G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:46:46 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: (Fwd) Cammo & Markings Section Message-ID: <199609241342.NAA15800@cso.com> Here's a message I received from an armor modeler. Since I though a few of you would like to see it, I'm forwarding the entire message. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:22:50 +0300 To: meba@gatekeeper.cso.com From: gbradford@mo-money.com (george bradford) Subject: Cammo & Markings Section Dear Matt; I stumbled across your name tonight on Paulie's TRACK-LINK, and saw your interest in WWI armor. If by any chance you have not yet seen the web site "Trenches On The Web", you certainly should take a peek. This is a totally WWI site maintained by Mike Iavarone, and can be found at: Also, myself and several other computer artists have rendered a series of Armour Camouflage & Markings illustrations for the AFV NEWS Home Page which we would like to announce. There are about 10 up on display now, and another 20 completed, but it all takes time to download and organize. Take a peek at or click on our AFV NEWS Home Page on Paulie's site. You will be pleasantly surprised. All the best:- George R. Bradford (AFV NEWS) RR.32, 10 Brenda St. Cambridge, Ontario Canada N3H 4R7 gbradford@mo-money.com Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:17:33 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Warcars! Message-ID: <199609242017.QAA11721@pease1.sr.unh.edu> I'm in heaven! This book has really got my juices flowing! I'm ready to start scratch building right away! Here it comes - early English RNAS armored cars in the scale of freeks...... 1/61 scale! What? Did I read that correctly you're saying...Yep 1/61 scale! (OK I might round to 1/60 scale for neatness. The reason for the funny scale is the cars need to match up to 28mm wargaming figures (a 6' tall man is 28mm to the eyeballs or about 30mm to the top of his head - 6'). So I get either 1/61 scale or 1/59 scale depending on which measurement I use. I'm splitting the difference and going for 1/60. Now here's some novie scratch builder's questions: 1) Rivets! How do I model rivets easilly? I hear that there is some sort of masking tape that you can use to squegie (sp) white glue through that will leave rivets. In 1/60 should I just bite the bullet and slice streched sprue into rivet heads and round by sanding them after application? For the cars I need rivets in fairly irregular patterns. Is there a 'good' solution? 2) Wire wheels! Any thoughts on possible solutions to wire wheels? I thought possibly some 1/48 scale aircraft wheel P/E sets might do a nice job of approximating a 1/60 scale automotive wheel? Any suggestions from you 1/48 scale modelers? I'm looking for (I guess) 16-20" wheels in 1/60 scale. That makes them 1/3" or 8-9mm +/- Now that I read that again bomber wire wheels in 1/72 scale might work. Is my math off here? I guess these car wheels might be over 20". 3) Misc. Car parts in 1/60 scale. Any thoughts on inspirational sources of parts to scrounge that would approximate Axles, Bumpers, Radiators, etc. for automobile parts. I'm aware of the 'standard' sources for basic shapes, I'm looking for real inovation. I think some lead or P/E parts from 1/72 kits/manufacturers might work here. 4) Luckilly for me I have a source for the Vickers & Lewis guns (the figure manufacturer has these) as well as Field gun carriages, which may yield some usefull parts. 5) Any other words on wisdom / encouragement would be helpful. I'm planning on doing several of these and might cast certian parts in resin/lead where the economy of scale is there. If so I may be able to make these available as a 'garage' kit if anyone is interested. Not for sale mind you, maybe as a trade for help with research or modeling on this project. 6) Anyone on the list do their own vacu-forming? I might need to do some for the armored car bodies. They sell home kits for this reasonably. The hard part is making the (female) molds. Well, there's a start - let the thread run long on this one! Thanks in advance, Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist. University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:06:29 -0700 (PDT) From: MCCLURE@force.litc.lockheed.com To: WWI Subject: Re: Warcars! Message-ID: <960924140629.2040053b@force.litc.lockheed.com> For the rivets, visit your nearest model railroad store and look for Grandt Line Products. They make all sorts of rivets, nut and washer combinations, and bolt heads in 1/87th and 1/48th scale. Something in there might just work. Kent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:22:23 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Warcars! Message-ID: <9609241504.aa05452@scosysv.speechsys.com> Allan writes: > 1) Rivets! How do I model rivets easilly?... For the cars I need rivets in >fairly irregular patterns. Is there a 'good' solution? Try mounting a watch gear on an axle of some sort. Irregular? There are military/naval organizations that tolerate irregularity? Is it the spacing that is irregular? If so, you could try breaking off some of the gear teeth. If they weave across the panels, try some less brittle gearing and bend a slight bow into it so that it wobbles as it turns. > 2) Wire wheels! Any thoughts on possible solutions to wire wheels? I don't think photo etch does a very good job of representing the interlaced appearance of real wire wheels. I'd build them up. See the Complete Car Modeler I & II by Gerald Wingrove. You can learn how to do strip-built tulipwood monococques while you are at it (complete independence from Eduard!). Both volumes are beautiful. He even includes plans for a Red Balto-something automobile used in the October Revolution. > 3) Misc. Car parts in 1/60 scale. Any thoughts on inspirational sources of > parts to scrounge that would approximate Axles, Bumpers, Radiators, etc. > for automobile parts. Again, Wingrove is your man. He includes a plan in volume I of a Rolls of the kind used for the Admiralty armored cars. This includes everything, down to engine parts and steering linkages. Some of the techniques are pretty advanced (cast bronze radiator shells), but he makes it all sound so straight forward and reasonable. He tells you how to cast tires from silicone rubber. Rollers had Mercedes style engines, so they can be built up from standard tubing shapes and wire. I have had an article on scratchbuilding these engines awaiting publication for three or four years at FineScale Modeler (write and ask for more stuff on WW1 aeroengines everyone!). I am also planning a new article for my webpage on this subject--probably around Christmas if you can wait that long. Good luck. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:59:59 -0500 (CDT) From: djones@iex.com (Doug Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: Four Years of Thunder Message-ID: <9609242200.AA05740@deimos.tx.iex.com> > What I want to know, though, is why the Rhinebeck Nie.11 had both > ailerons dropped? Was this still "under construction" while taping, > or is there something I don't know? > I'll have to see when it was filmed. When I saw the plane in 1995 it was not ready to fly and if they shot around that time I can believe that they were not connected. They did not appear to droop when I saw the plane a couple of weeks ago. Or if they did I didn't notice! Doug -- ------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (972)301-1307 | djones@iex.com ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:11:40 -0600 From: john@rollmodels.com (John Roll) To: wwi Subject: ADV: New web hobby shop. Message-ID: Hello all! I've sent a couple of messages to the list now from my new domain, so some of you are aware of a change... My wife and I have opened a web-based model shop. I hope you like it. I'm concentrating on WWI and WWII in 1/48 and 1/72 scales -- because that's all I know. We have just started-up. In fact, we went online at 6:00 PM CT last night. We don't have a huge stock, but we don't list anything that I haven't at least ordered. I won't flood the list with all of the details, but we aim to give you great stuff at great prices with great service. And, we have secure online ordering, now. Please check it out at: http://www.rollmodels.com/ Thanks! John Roll john@rollmodels.com PS: For those of you who have been corresponding with me, please update your mailers with my new address. Thanks! ******************************************* John Roll john@rollmodels.com Vice President and Chief Modeler for ROLL MODELS, INC. THE Internet source for plastic model kits, books and supplies GREAT STUFF! GREAT PRICES! GREAT SERVICE! http://www.rollmodels.com It's not real soon anymore, it's NOW! ******************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:51:22 -0400 From: jsthorn@mindspring.com (Jesse Thorn) To: wwi Subject: Re: ADV: New web hobby shop. Message-ID: Nice site! Is the catalog complete? I could only access a few manufacturers like Aeroclub. Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 00:56:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi Subject: Eduard Strip Down Series Message-ID: <199609242256.AAA26958@login.eunet.no> The next release in this series is to be the Sopwith Camel, due soon. You find a colour picture of it in Hannants latest list. To follow later are SE5a and Fokker DVII. In 1/48 we can look forward to Pfalz D.III, Albatross D.III, Hanriot HD.1 after the Sopwith Triplane, all of these fully dressed.... I did not finish my attempt on the Fokker E.III, I did get the spars that holds the wing straight wrong (should have been further forward) because I just glanced at the instructions instead of checking references. These spars should be made out of brass or steel so that they can keep the wing straight and level and add some strength. You don`t get a second chance after applying superglue to these kits.... It is probably better to do most of the painting before you fold the fuselage, this applies both to the wooden structure and the rigging. The fuselage structure is quite rigid when the box is finished, check which items you need to place within first. The whole model will probably weigh less than 50 grams if you don`t add to many metal parts. The only thing that I wasn`t impressed with was the spoked wheels, I find it easier to sandwich the brass between two half tires. I like the idea behind these kits, Eduard like WW1 aircraft and make excellent etchings My plan is to give the Camel a try one day, Norwegian pilot Tryggve Gran flew one with a red painted nose, but I don`t know serial or how the rest of it was finished. This is a neat way to get around the problem. Happy modelling Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:57:39 -0500 From: iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) To: wwi Subject: Re: Latest IPMS Journal Message-ID: <199609242257.RAA01579@sh1.ro.com> >Just going through the IPMS Journal - the one with the Nationals >coverage - and it brought a few things to mind. > >The first place entries look great. Unfortunately, the journal >doesn't show the rest, but they're bound to be great. I don't see >any names I recognise, except for Karen Rychlewski who has had >numerous photo's in Windsock. > >The split I find unfortunate is on the 1/48th side: Fokkers and all >others. Gads, are we getting to be like those 109 fanatics, that we >have tunnel vision? ;-) Lighten up, Matt. The splits are just a convenience for judging purposes. Its more important to note that there were enough pre-WWII models to HAVE a split. This is a very unusual occurence, and a good omen for the future. It means that there are more kits out there and more good modellers building them. The quality of the entries was very high this year. On the other hand, it means I'm even less likely to steal a trophy then I was before. Rats! Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:57:49 -0500 From: iceman@ro.com (Eli Geher) To: wwi Subject: Re: Warcars! Message-ID: <199609242257.RAA01635@sh1.ro.com> >6) Anyone on the list do their own vacu-forming? I might need to do some for > the armored car bodies. They sell home kits for this reasonably. The hard > part is making the (female) molds. I've done a fair amount of vacforming over the years and would be glad to advise on specific questions, but unless you're looking at compound curves, I'd recommend against it. For the large flat areas and crisp edges on early armor, it may not be the way to go. The process doesn't draw the plastic into sharp corners very well. Better to make a master out of sheet material and cast from resin for such shapes. My current rig for vacforming utilizes a garden leaf blower and a heat gun, by the way. Its an odd setup, but it works, and it didn't require any cash outlay, since I had the stuff already. Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:17:29 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Americal/Gryphon Message-ID: <199609242317.TAA05292@fw.true.net> At 09:00 AM 9/24/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > > I guess it's been a while since I've ordered from Americal. I grabbed my >catalog and it's the 1994 (Interim) Catalog! Can someone post the latest >prices and shipping costs so I can send them an order. I don't want to >short them since I'm sending a check. > >Thanks, >Al Al Saludos It's a long list, over 113 items now , I'll try to get it in the computer and e-mail it, but mean while all items are either $ 6.50 or $ 12.50 except No. 28 and No. 51 that are $ 10.00 postage up to 2 items $ 1.75 - 4 $ 2.30 - 6 $ 3.00 - 10 $ 3.50 If you give me a fax No. I can fax the list to you tomorrow morning from the office. Saludos Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 22:21:07 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Americal/Gryphon Message-ID: <199609250221.WAA28843@ns1.ptd.net> At 09:00 AM 9/24/96 -0400, Allan Wright wrote: >Hi everyone, > > I guess it's been a while since I've ordered from Americal. I grabbed my >catalog and it's the 1994 (Interim) Catalog! Can someone post the latest >prices and shipping costs so I can send them an order. I don't want to >short them since I'm sending a check. Allan and the rest of the crew I ordered a month or so ago. Catalog is $1.00 or 3 first class stamps or 3 IRCs. Postage is: for 1-2sheets: $1.75(1st class) $3.70 Overseas 3-4 2.30 4.50 5-6 3.00 5.60 7-10 3.50 6.50 >10 10% of order For the prices, # 1per27 6.50 28 12.50 29per50 6.50 51 10.00 52 12.50 53per60 6.50 61per68 12.50 69 6.50 70per72 12.50 73per79 6.50 80per88 12.50 89per92 6.50 93per101 12.50 102 6.50 103per107 12.50 108/109 6.50 110per120 12.50 Hope you know which number you want. If not let me know and I'll look it up. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:18:10 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Americal/Gryphon Message-ID: <199609251118.HAA14848@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Al Saludos > > It's a long list, over 113 items now , I'll try to get it in the computer > and e-mail it, > but mean while all items are either $ 6.50 or $ 12.50 except No. 28 and No. 51 > that are $ 10.00 > postage up to 2 items $ 1.75 - 4 $ 2.30 - 6 $ 3.00 - 10 $ 3.50 > > If you give me a fax No. I can fax the list to you tomorrow morning from > the office. > > Saludos > Alberto Thanks to everyone - I have the info I need to order now! -Al ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:27:22 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Warcars! Message-ID: <199609251127.HAA14904@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Kent offers: > For the rivets, visit your nearest model railroad store and look for > Grandt Line Products. They make all sorts of rivets, nut and washer > combinations, and bolt heads in 1/87th and 1/48th scale. Something > in there might just work. Excellent advice - I'll check them out! Eli adds: > >6) Anyone on the list do their own vacu-forming? I might need to do some for > > the armored car bodies. They sell home kits for this reasonably. The hard > > part is making the (female) molds. > > I've done a fair amount of vacforming over the years and would be glad to > advise > on specific questions, but unless you're looking at compound curves, I'd > recommend against it. For the large flat areas and crisp edges on early > armor, it may not be the way to go. The process doesn't draw the plastic into > sharp corners very well. Better to make a master out of sheet material and > cast from resin for such shapes. > > My current rig for vacforming utilizes a garden leaf blower and a heat gun, by > the way. Its an odd setup, but it works, and it didn't require any cash > outlay, since I had the stuff already. Ah - that sounds good to me. I'll only consider it for the round surfaces like unarmored fenders, etc. Thanks for the advice. I'll hold off on buying the vac kit for now. I've done extensive casting in lead (figures, small a/c parts). I can use my RTV skills to make larger molds for resin. Anyone on the list have experience with both? I'm just wondering how different casting resin is from pouring lead. Thanks for the info - keep it coming! -Al ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:41:08 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: FAQ update Message-ID: <199609250737.HAA18629@cso.com> I've added the following to the FAQ. Let me know what everyone thinks. V. Between the Wars Discussion It has been brought up on the list numerous times if there could be discussion on Between the Wars (approximately 1919 to 1939) subjects. Since this is a list devoted to WW1 modeling, large discussions about this time period are to be avoided. However, the list will allow a "feeler" message, where all discussion afterwards goes to private email. So, for example, you want some info on the Curtiss P-1, you would post a message to the list (maybe designate in the subject that the subject is Between the Wars) and then anyone who wants to follow up on the discussion will move it to private email. The important thing to remember is to take the discussion off list. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 08:55:05 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: FAQ update Message-ID: <199609251255.IAA15291@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > I've added the following to the FAQ. Let me know what everyone > thinks. > > V. Between the Wars Discussion > > It has been brought up on the list numerous times if there could > be discussion on Between the Wars (approximately 1919 to 1939) > subjects. Since this is a list devoted to WW1 modeling, large > discussions about this time period are to be avoided. However, > the list will allow a "feeler" message, where all discussion > afterwards goes to private email. So, for example, you want some info > on the Curtiss P-1, you would post a message to the list (maybe > designate in the subject that the subject is Between the Wars) and > then anyone who wants to follow up on the discussion will move it to > private email. > > The important thing to remember is to take the discussion off > list. That captures the essence of what we agreed on - sounds great. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist. 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