WWI Digest 217 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New Eduard Kit Announced by meba@cso.com 2) Re: New Eduard Kit Announced by "Stuart L. Malone" 3) Re: The FAQ colour guide by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 4) Re: The FAQ colour guide by Rob 5) Re: The FAQ colour guide by meba@cso.com 6) Re: New Eduard Kit Announced by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 7) Re: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed by Andreas Einsel <100410.261@CompuServe.COM> 8) Re: Morane-Saulnier by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 9) Re: Eduard Albatross C.III kit by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 10) Re: The FAQ colour guide by "Brian Bushe" 11) Re: Eduard Albatross C.III kit by Rob 12) Re: New Eduard Kit Announced by Charles Stephanian 13) Re: The FAQ colour guide by Rob 14) Re: The FAQ colour guide by meba@cso.com 15) Re: New Eduard Kit Announced by meba@cso.com 16) Color guide thoughts by meba@cso.com 17) Re: New Eduard Kit Announced by Kevin Witte 18) Re: Color guide thoughts by meba@cso.com 19) Re: The FAQ colour guide by Rob 20) my posts by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 21) Re: my posts by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 22) RE: New Eduard Kit Announced by SDW@qld.mim.com.au 23) [Fwd: 7 August 1916, Buc] by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 24) Re: my posts by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 25) RE: New Eduard Kit Announced by Rob 26) Silberman's "WWI in the Air" by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 27) Re: Color guide thoughts by bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 28) Re: Color guide thoughts by "Valenciano . Jose" 29) Re: Morane-Saulnier by "Valenciano . Jose" 30) Fokker database by "Guy Fogel" 31) Color Mix Doc. by lfendy@firstsaga.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 06:46:28 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: New Eduard Kit Announced Message-ID: <199608070644.GAA07075@cso.com> On 7 Aug 96 at 2:51, Bill Shatzer typed diligantly: > Sigh! I suppose its just an old man's grumpiness but I remember > when I could buy the Aurora WW1 kits for seventy-nine cents and the > Revell Three-in-one Collectors' Kits for a buck. Thirty-five > freaking bucks for an Eduard Albatros D.III kit? No freaking way, > Jose! Pardon me if I pass on these babies. I agree. Things are getting a little out of hand. Sure, there will be people saying "at least we're getting WW1, so..." > But, I'll probably regret it if I pass so I'll probably buy 'em > anyway. But just -why- should $3 of materials (including the box, > instruction sheet, and decals) cost twenty-five or thirty-five > freaking dollars? Ever since Eastern Europe has discovered Greed, prices have gotten out of control. The other problems lies in the fact that regardless of price, there are still people that will buy it. What, $300 for a resin, 1/35th sub? You bet, because there are some "fools" that will buy it. > OK, I give up! I'll call my banker in the morning. :-) But if we > could convince Revell-o-gram to do WW1, (I mean -really- do!) we > could get twice the kit for half the money! I was just mentioning to Steve H. about the Minicraft Spitfire Mk.XIV. A beautiful kit, *complete* out of the box, for US$8.00 retail. This is what modeling should be about!! Too bad Minicraft doesn't do WW1 - except for those two blobs of plastic. I think it would be great if Minicraft could do a *correct* Albatros D.III - especially for $8.00!!! Then you could build a Jasta, without going bankrupt. Imagine building a Jasta under Pegasus prices. Here's where that second mortgage kicks in. Hmmm...maybe we should start some sort of correspondence - AS A GROUP - with Minicraft. That way they can see that there is a need for an Albatros D.III - or whatever - and be assured that many people would buy it. I, for one, would never have bought - or built - a Spit if it wasn't for the excellent offering from Minicraft. Think about it. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 07:55:26 -0500 From: "Stuart L. Malone" To: wwi Subject: Re: New Eduard Kit Announced Message-ID: <3208923E.4DB3@sound.net> Bill Shatzer wrote: > > OK, I give up! I'll call my banker in the morning. :-) > But if we could convince Revell-o-gram to do WW1, (I mean > -really- do!) we could get twice the kit for half the money! > Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org Oh yes! Please go on with your tirade! I quit buying Pegasus kits when they broke the $15 barrier, and now some company wants me to shell out $35 for a kit? Get real. $35 buys a helluva lot of sheet plastic and other assorted materials. It's by far easier to part with the time to enjoy my hobby, difficult to part with my hard earned dollars. Therefore, I will continue to scour those collector mailing lists and buy up all the 'baggged' and 'partially built' kits for conversions, or scratchbuild, of what some companies want way to much money for. rant, rant, RANT, rave, ` Stuart L. Malone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 96 08:15:50 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ colour guide Message-ID: <9607078394.AA839430963@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> Hi all Could the kind soul who posted the colour guide in us-asciii format please tell us how to decode this baby????? I know it's a Word Perfect document but..... Really? I have word perfect at work but I already deleted the file as I thought it was one of those uencode things. Please forward the thing to me again and I will save it as text and try to re-post it in the clear. It should work. Thanks. ---Stephen Tontoni stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 09:37:48 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ colour guide Message-ID: <9608070931.aa09220@scosysv.speechsys.com> Stephen Tontoni writes: > I already deleted the file as I thought it was one of those uencode things. The mail reader that comes Netscape Navigator (2.0 and later) will handle UUEncoding, as will the Pegasus reader. Other decoding applications can be downloaded from various Web sites and from usenet. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:50:01 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ colour guide Message-ID: <199608071047.KAA01602@cso.com> On 7 Aug 96 at 11:36, Rob typed diligantly: > The mail reader that comes Netscape Navigator (2.0 and later) will > handle UUEncoding, as will the Pegasus reader. Other decoding > applications can be downloaded from various Web sites and from > usenet. I've succesfully decoded it using WinCode. I loaded it into Word 7.0, and saved it as a Word 7.0 doc, an RTF doc, and a text doc. I did *not* save it as a WordPerfect doc. If you want one of these, let me know. Al: which format is best for the web site? Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:19:49 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: New Eduard Kit Announced Message-ID: Stuart Malone writes: > >Oh yes! Please go on with your tirade! I quit buying Pegasus kits when >they broke the $15 barrier, and now some company wants me to shell out >$35 for a kit? Get real. $35 buys a helluva lot of sheet plastic and >other assorted materials. It's by far easier to part with the time to >enjoy my hobby, difficult to part with my hard earned dollars. >Therefore, I will continue to scour those collector mailing lists and >buy up all the 'baggged' and 'partially built' kits for conversions, or >scratchbuild, of what some companies want way to much money for. > I agree that prices for some pretty small kits, some of questionable quality and build-ability (i.e. Merlin) have gotten pretty out of hand. However, I think that this is partly an outgrowth of the fact that some of the more desirable subjects are being kitted by the "cottage" kit industry. Total production for some cottage kits probably doesn't match the number of "limited reissues" Revellogram makes in a single day of X-15s. Way back in the early days of Meikraft Models, he had the bright idea of "limiting" his production 5000 kits of HB W.29s and the like. After knocking out that many examples and working hard at selling them for a couple of months he was faced with the slight problem of where to store 3000+ UNSOLD kits. Production appears, at least for this maker, to have been scaled back to reasonable proportions of his physical space. Though I continue to be surprised at how many Pfalz D-III kits keep cropping up in different editions of the box with "frameable" art. Having known of the saga of Sierra Scale Models for 10 years now I can tell you that one person can work mighty hard knocking out a few hundred vac form kits of high quality that most major distributors and specialty hobby shops won't even touch, "they're vac form kits you know". When he talked of moving to resin kits, interest picked up by 3 or 4 fold. Sure, $19.95 might seem like a lot to pay for a couple of sheets of vac formed plastic instructions and some metal parts, but the guy has to eat some time. In the case of Pegasus, I think that $20.00+ for a 1/72 scale injection kit is out of line, certainly more than I want to pay. But hey, the most recent kits to come from there are really nice. My approach has been to buy direct. It is the most direct way of supporting the maker and it makes for the cheapest price. Squadron mail order sale prices on these can go pretty low for these sometimes, but they have a hard time undercutting the direct price. And also, Pegasus doesn't charge for the air mail postage they use to deliver your order. I bought the OEF Albatros D-III direct a couple of months ago for just over Stuart's $15.00 barrier. I don't begrudge the mail order houses and specialty hobby shops making a living, but I too only have limited $$$ for the hobby budget and therefore have to seek out the cheapest price. Just my $ 0.02. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: 07 Aug 96 12:14:26 EDT From: Andreas Einsel <100410.261@CompuServe.COM> To: Multiple recipients of l Subject: Re: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed Message-ID: <960807161425_100410.261_JHU28-1@CompuServe.COM> Hi Ken, you wrote >I saw your post regarding the lorry plans. Any chance of getting a >copy of these? Does it look as if it would be difficult to >scratchbuild in 1/72? Give me your adress and I post the plans. They look very complicated with a lot of details. The description (in German) is several pages long (too long to translate, sorry), but you should be able to build the lorry from the pictures. Ciao, Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:26:36 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Morane-Saulnier Message-ID: >-- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- > >The new datafile lists a 1/72 Morane-Saulnier Type I kit from a Russian >company named Temems. Has anyone seen this kit, know where one can be >purchased, and care to give a mini-review? > From an advertisement in the January 1996 FSM comes the following information: 1/72 Ilya Mourmets $24.90 1/72 Grigorovitch M-5 $5.90 1/72 Morane Saulnier I/N $6.90 1/72 Polikarpov R-I/DH-9 $6.90 1/48 Morane Saulnier H $9.90 Prices include 1st class postage. Available from: Joe's Models (Joe Francesco) 19 Valley View Rd. Verona NJ 07044 USA 201/239-7682 Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:36:44 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Albatross C.III kit Message-ID: Mark Shannon wrote: >I have the Eduard Albatross C.III kit in my hands. The box art and the >markings placement reference drawing both show some kind of header tank >over the upper mainplane, behind the radiator -- in side view. None is >included in the kit, mentioned in the instructions, shown in the top >view, etc. <> >So, we come down to that tank on the upper wing. Is it a standard on >Albatross C.III's? None of the others in my references having the same >radiator set-up have one. Is it a Coolant Header tank, and Oil Header, >or some kind of add-on gun tank a la Brandenburg star-strutter. > >Additionally, Eduard gives you a one-piece upper wing with a brass >fairing to fold around the center section, but virtually all the >Albatross two seaters all had two piece wings with the cabane struts >linking at the, very visible, center join. Is this incorrect? > I checked the Datafiles for the Albatros C-III and its predecessor the C-I. I think that the C-III drawings are in error with regard to the upper wing join in the center. The drawings show a somewhat trapezoidal space between the two wing panels, making it appear as if the gravity tank fits between the wing pieces. This just isn't the case in the photos, they show the roots of the wing panels with ends parallel to the centerline of the a/c and joining very closely to the "trestle" at the top of the cabane strut. Some machines have this faired over with some type of fitting, others have the open space between the wing panels. The position of the gravity tank varies, it may be either above or below the wings. There also appears to be some variation in the type of radiator fitted to the leading edge of the wing. HTH Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 17:33:01 +0000 From: "Brian Bushe" To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ colour guide Message-ID: <199608071635.RAA06600@itl.net> re: Re: The FAQ colour guide > Stephen Tontoni writes: > > > I already deleted the file as I thought it was one of those uencode things. > > The mail reader that comes Netscape Navigator (2.0 and later) will > handle UUEncoding, as will the Pegasus reader. Other decoding > applications can be downloaded from various Web sites and from > usenet. My pegasus mailer couldn't handle that attachment, and i would be quite interested in it :-) brian "He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy"- Life of Brian Brian Bushe syclone@itl.net Syclone Systems (44) 1628 789 470 Maidenhead Fax 789 513 Berkshire England ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:10:59 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard Albatross C.III kit Message-ID: <9608071104.aa09979@scosysv.speechsys.com> Charles writes: > I checked the Datafiles for the Albatros C-III and its predecessor the > C-I. I think that the C-III drawings are in error with regard to the upper > wing join in the center. The drawings show a somewhat trapezoidal space > between the two wing panels, making it appear as if the gravity tank fits > between the wing pieces. This just isn't the case in the photos, they show > the roots of the wing panels with ends parallel to the centerline of the > a/c and joining very closely to the "trestle" at the top of the cabane > strut. This makes sense. I believe that the center-sectionless, trestle-type construction was meant to facilitate easy dismantling for road transport. Trapezoids would surely be a needless complication at the join. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:14:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Stephanian To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: New Eduard Kit Announced Message-ID: > > Ever since Eastern Europe has discovered Greed, prices have gotten > out of control. The other problems lies in the fact that regardless > of price, there are still people that will buy it. What, $300 for a > resin, 1/35th sub? You bet, because there are some "fools" that will > buy it. > I agree with Matt and Bill about prices. But it's not only Eastern Europe. My pet peeve is the rising cost and diminishing size of Windsock and it's family of Datafiles. While I respect Ray Rimmel's research and ability to keep going, he's priced me right out of the market. I just can't justify his prices, especially for Windsock. As for the resin 1/350 sub, at least with resin I understand why the cost is so high (resin is costly, molds are short-run). Eduard prices do seem to be climbing to an absurd level. Charles Stephanian csteph@itsa.ucsf.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:15:15 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ colour guide Message-ID: <9608071108.aa10008@scosysv.speechsys.com> Brian writes: > My pegasus mailer couldn't handle that attachment, and i would be > quite interested in it :-) Try the Message | Reader | Special | UUDecode Message option of the main menu. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:43:23 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ colour guide Message-ID: <199608071241.MAA10969@cso.com> On 7 Aug 96 at 13:14, Rob typed diligantly: > Try the Message | Reader | Special | UUDecode Message option of > the main menu. I don't think it will work, since it's looking for a uuencoded message, and this one was Base64 encoded. Granted, I haven't tried it, but logic tells me (UUDecode) that's it's looking for an uuencoded message. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:40:09 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: New Eduard Kit Announced Message-ID: <199608071238.MAA10655@cso.com> On 7 Aug 96 at 13:13, Charles Stephanian typed diligantly: > I agree with Matt and Bill about prices. But it's not only Eastern > Europe. My pet peeve is the rising cost and diminishing size of > Windsock and it's family of Datafiles. While I respect Ray Rimmel's > research and ability to keep going, he's priced me right out of the > market. I just can't justify his prices, especially for Windsock. I honestly believe that if Ray had competition, things would be different. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:39:13 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Color guide thoughts Message-ID: <199608071237.MAA10562@cso.com> Looking over that wonderful list that Sopwith supplied, hit me with an idea. I want to create a standard format, "comma delimited", so I can send everybody a database "template", and you can read the colors in at your leisure. Here's the format I was thinking of: (Note that each "line" will not exist; in other words, consider a "line" non-existant, and it's really the "space" between the comma and the next value. I did this because not everybody runs their mailer with a non-proportional font. If still confused, ask. ;-)) Country Abbreviation, (here's where I need help: what should be Color Name, (used?) Paint Manufacturer, Paint Manufacturers Color Name, Paint Manufacturers Color Code, Methuen Color Reference, FS Color Reference What do you think? That way, using what ever type of search engine exists in your database system, you can search relatively easily for a specific color. So, taking the first line of Sopwith's color chart, it would look like: G(ermany),Dk Green,XtraColor,Topside Green,X241,5B8(?),FS20938(?) Sorry for screwing up those Methuen and FS numbers, I just wanted to give an example. Shoot. I just ran into a problem. How to designate mixes? Maybe Country Abbreviation, (here's where I need help: what should be Color Name, (used?) Methuen Color Reference, FS Color Reference, Paint Manufacturer, Paint Manufacturers Color Name Color 1, Paint Manufacturers Color Code Color 1, Percentage of Color 1, Paint Manufacturers Color Name Color 2, Paint Manufacturers Color Code Color 2, Percentage of Color 2 So, the example would look like: G(ermany),Dk Green,5B8(?),FS20938(?),XtraColor,Topside Green,X241, 100 Usually, databases will know to stop reading after 100, since there is no delimiter (comma) following it, and will continue with the next line. Thoughts? Comments? Let me know, and I'll start converting Sopwith's - and the other color lists I have and get a hold of. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 17:59:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Kevin Witte To: wwi Subject: Re: New Eduard Kit Announced Message-ID: I think all this griping about prices is only natural - I know do my fair share - but I think it's the "kit collector" in me that grumbles. My inner "kit-builder" however knows I'm going to spend 40 hours or more building that Eduard Albatros D.Va. That's a few cents an hour. I'll pay that. Any way you cut it, it's cheaper than golf, Kev ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin Witte Senior Analyst/Programmer witte001@mc.duke.edu Workstation Development Group http://wdg.mc.duke.edu/~witte001 Duke University Medical Center ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 13:09:57 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Color guide thoughts Message-ID: <199608071308.NAA12679@cso.com> On 7 Aug 96 at 13:49, meba@gatekeeper.cso.com typed diligantly: > Shoot. I just ran into a problem. How to designate mixes? Maybe I just thought of another. What happens if there are more than two colors to mix? So, the change would be: > Country Abbreviation, (here's where I need help: what should be > Color Name, (used?) > Methuen Color Reference, > FS Color Reference, > Paint Manufacturer, > Paint Manufacturers Color Name Color 1, > Paint Manufacturers Color Code Color 1, > Percentage of Color 1, > Paint Manufacturers Color Name Color 2, > Paint Manufacturers Color Code Color 2, > Percentage of Color 2 Country Abbreviation, (here's where I need help: what should be Color Name, (used?) Methuen Color Reference, FS Color Reference, Paint Manufacturer (PM), Parts PM Color Name1 (PM Color Code1) + Parts PM Color Name2 (PM Color Code2) + ... So, the new example would look like: G(ermany),Dk Green,5B8(?),FS20938(?),XtraColor, 100P Topside Green (X241) That means that the last column of the database will be large enough to accomodate the largest line. Unfortunately, as far as some databases goes, this limit is 256 characters, hence "Parts" being broke down to "P". If we go over this limit, then something's wrong. So, more thoughts on this "corrected" version? ;-) Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 13:20:59 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ colour guide Message-ID: <9608071314.aa10950@scosysv.speechsys.com> Matt writes: > I don't think it will work, since it's looking for a uuencoded > message, and this one was Base64 encoded. Granted, I haven't tried > it, but logic tells me (UUDecode) that's it's looking for an > uuencoded message. The original message said uuencoding was the trouble (unless I am suffering one of my frequent mental lapses). For Base64 you probably need to cruise the free software web sites and usenet groups for a decoder. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 16:26:44 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: my posts Message-ID: <32092634.75A5@host.dmsc.net> Gents, thought I had this contraption set to mirror my posts back to me, but evidently not. Anyway, did y'all get my two posts late this morning?-- the Genet diary entry and the forwarded "WWI in the Air" by Silberman? Please let me know. Bradley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 14:41:06 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: my posts Message-ID: >Gents, >thought I had this contraption set to mirror my posts back to me, but >evidently not. Anyway, did y'all get my two posts late this morning?-- >the Genet diary entry and the forwarded "WWI in the Air" by Silberman? >Please let me know. >Bradley Haven't seen anything here. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: 08 Aug 96 07:54:00 EDT From: SDW@qld.mim.com.au To: wwi%pease1.sr.unh.edu@teksup.mim.com.au Subject: RE: New Eduard Kit Announced Message-ID: <199608072218.IAA21092@mimmon.mim.com.au> On 7 Aug 96 at 13:13, Charles Stephanian typed diligantly: > I agree with Matt and Bill about prices. But it's not only Eastern > Europe. My pet peeve is the rising cost and diminishing size of > Windsock and it's family of Datafiles. While I respect Ray Rimmel's > research and ability to keep going, he's priced me right out of the > market. I just can't justify his prices, especially for Windsock. and Matt replied: >I honestly believe that if Ray had competition, things would be >different. I have my doubts. My take on this is that Rimmel is treading a fine line along the edge of insolvency - and good luck to him if he can stay out of the hole. Publishing is an expensive and risky enterprise, especially so where specialist magazines of short run are concerned. I'm less concerned at the price I pay (and it's higher than I like) than that he should continue to publish. On the subject of Eduard kit prices, I'm astounded at the complaints from the USA about Eduard Albatrii costing US$35. Here in Australia, I paid the equivalent of US $24 each for the three I have - and this is normal store price, undiscounted. Given that it surely costs more to get the kits here than across the pond from Europe, you should perhaps look elsewhere for a scapegoat. Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 17:59:15 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: [Fwd: 7 August 1916, Buc] Message-ID: <32093BE3.3E82@host.dmsc.net> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Message-ID: <3208E13B.77BC@host.dmsc.net> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 11:32:27 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: 7 August 1916, Buc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fine day but too windy in early a.m. for flying. Letter from dear little Mother. Nothing doing yet about the money from the French Consul in Philadelphia. I'd sure like to get about 70 dollars now as a reserve supply for any sudden necessities. Wrote to Joe Lydon who is at the Amer. Ambulance at Neuilly. Will try to see him next Sunday if I get to Paris. Out for work in late p.m. but breeze prevented going up in 50s. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 18:01:09 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Re: my posts Message-ID: <32093C55.1E8D@host.dmsc.net> Charles Hart wrote: > > >Gents, > >thought I had this contraption set to mirror my posts back to me, but > >evidently not. Anyway, did y'all get my two posts late this morning?-- > >the Genet diary entry and the forwarded "WWI in the Air" by Silberman? > >Please let me know. > >Bradley > > Haven't seen anything here. > > Charles > Thanks, Charles. I think they got vaporized. Trying them again. Bradley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 16:13:45 +0000 From: Rob To: wwi Subject: RE: New Eduard Kit Announced Message-ID: <9608071607.aa12232@scosysv.speechsys.com> Shane writes: > On the subject of Eduard kit prices, I'm astounded at the complaints from > the USA about Eduard Albatrii costing US$35. Here in Australia, I paid > the equivalent of US $24 each for the three I have - and this is normal > store price, undiscounted. Sounds like the US importer is to blame! Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 18:20:41 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Silberman's "WWI in the Air" Message-ID: <320940E9.52D3@host.dmsc.net> Gents, I've tried forwarding this one three times and it doesn't take. If anyone else is on the WWI history list and has the Silberman "WWI in the Air", they might try to forward it to the list-- otherwise I will try again tomorrow. Silberman has had trouble with his server the past few days and hasn't posted one of these since the last one I forwarded a few days ago. I think he's going to try to catch them up. My "mirroring" device seems to be working after all-- it seems some of my messages simply aren't posting. I think we should all invest in a some good carrier pigeons as backup. Bradley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:31:02 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Color guide thoughts Message-ID: <199608072231.SAA00285@ns1.ptd.net> At 01:49 PM 8/7/96 -0400, meba@cso.com wrote: >Looking over that wonderful list that Sopwith supplied, hit me with >an idea. > >I want to create a standard format, "comma delimited", so I can send >everybody a database "template", and you can read the colors in at >your leisure. > MAJOR DELETIONS Whatever scheme you come up with, make it simple to use for us computer idiots. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 07:48:03 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Color guide thoughts Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Mary-Ann/Michael wrote: > Whatever scheme you come up with, make it simple to use for us > computer idiots. Yes, and keep it up. Even if I foul up a bit when I mix paints, at least I'll get a general idea of how the color looks like. Don't forget to include lozenge colors! Good Luck. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 07:52:30 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Morane-Saulnier Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Charles Hart wrote: > Available from: Joe's Models (Joe Francesco) > 19 Valley View Rd. > Verona NJ 07044 > USA Joe offered me a discount if I ordered more than one. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 7 Aug 1996 15:55:47 -0700 From: "Guy Fogel" To: "Mail List" Subject: Fokker database Message-ID: I was on vacation last week so I don't know if there was any more talk of a Fokker DVII or Dr1 database... Was there? Again, I would be interested in helping with a Dr1 database. THX, Guy Fogel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:35:34 -0400 From: lfendy@firstsaga.com To: wwi Subject: Color Mix Doc. Message-ID: <199608080135.VAA02687@pease1.sr.unh.edu> The attachment was encoded using MIME, a derivitive of Base64, if you are using WinCode set the code type manually to "MIME". The file is only 4k in plain text format. If anyone would like a copy I can e-mail you one. So as not to crowd the list send your request to me via e-mail: lfendy@firstsaga.com Len _ Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free. QWicKeSST - The ultimate database QWK reader, and NO limits. #$678803 Special Compile: 1.032B (Beta) >> Slipstream Jet - The QWK solution for Usenets #$678803 ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 217 *********************