WWI Digest 212 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Off topic ponderment by SCLexicat@aol.com 2) Re: Sound Off by SCLexicat@aol.com 3) Re: Golden Age? by meba@cso.com 4) Re: Merlin Kits by meba@cso.com 5) Re: The FAQ by meba@cso.com 6) Re: Sound Off by meba@cso.com 7) RE: Golden Age? by jim lyzun 8) Re: Original aces... by jdziak@prolog.net (John Dziak) 9) by Peter Fedders 10) Re: Original aces... by "PETER KILDUFF, UNIVERSITY RELATIONS, 21791" 11) Re: Sound Off by SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov 12) Golden Age - Final Word by aew (Allan Wright) 13) 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed by Brian Nicklas 14) Re: SMS Wolf by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 15) Re: SMS Wolf by Robert Johnson 16) Re: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed by Robert Johnson 17) Re: Sound Off by Robert Johnson 18) Re: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed by Robert Johnson 19) RE:'Drachen' kite balloon help needed by Andreas Einsel <100410.261@CompuServe.COM> 20) Re: Whippet & Other comments by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 21) Decals by Brian Nicklas 22) Re: Decals by meba@cso.com 23) Off topic question by meba@cso.com 24) Flt Lt Sugden - Palestine by Brian Nicklas 25) Re: Decals by Rick Land 26) Re: Sound Off by DavidL1217@aol.com 27) Re: Sound Off by DavidL1217@aol.com 28) Windsock Vol.12 No.4 by knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 29) Re: The FAQ by "Valenciano . Jose" 30) Re: Sound Off by "Valenciano . Jose" 31) Re: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed by "Valenciano . Jose" 32) 2 August 1916, Buc by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" 33) Re: The FAQ: colors by "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:05:23 -0400 From: SCLexicat@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Off topic ponderment Message-ID: <960802080521_590730533@emout14.mail.aol.com> I agree with Stephen: I'd be very happy for the charter to include Moths and Rapides, Harts, Siskins and Gauntlets etc. Not to mention those lovely inter-war Boeing biplanes. For that matter the pre-WW1 stuff, though thin on the ground, also interests me strangely... But others have been active in the list far longer than I, a mere johnny-come-lately interloper, so I'd be totally understanding if the pioneers and predominant contributors wish to keep the subject more tightly defined. Simon Craven, Lexicat Ltd, England ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:05:21 -0400 From: SCLexicat@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Sound Off Message-ID: <960802080520_590730572@emout15.mail.aol.com> Well, I guess the market will decide. I can sympathise with Charles' frustration in wanting a new "covered" Camel kit. But as a sometime builder of flying models and the even more occasional sortie into the full size item, I see a lot of beauty in a well-crafted uncovered airframe. I for one will be buying out of curiosity and (if my skills are up to the task) I'll anticipate a pleasing result. Simon Craven, Lexicat Ltd, England ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 06:59:50 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Golden Age? Message-ID: <199608020658.GAA24358@cso.com> On 1 Aug 96 at 20:33, Ray Boorman typed diligantly: > The other day I posted the models I had just finished and one that > was in process I needed some help with the Polikarpov but only > posted that in passing. Matt replied off list and helped me with the > information I needed. Anyway I'll get of the soapbox and let the > next contestant step up! I got to thinking about this a little more, and here's what I came up with. Like Ray, the company I work for can be Big Brother. At times they have, and it was during those times that I went digest, and unsubbed from some of the "other" lists. However, when the smoke clears, I ended up going back to bounce. As Ray said, maybe we can post general Golden Age questions to the list, and then from there go private email. That way Purists only see one message (again, which we should designate in the subject line), and the list is spared. However, I can also see where someone brings up a topic others want to know about as well. Again, we can keep these private email. The mail software I use (Pegasus) keeps a list of last used To and CC lines. An easy use of "cut and paste". It also has the capability of creating To and CC lists, which can have as many (or as few) email address as you like. Sure, I would really like to see a list - maybe even separate. But this way we do keep relatively pure, and don't push those away that get mail at work, or don't have the time (or interest) to wade through messages containing important information on the Polikarpov's, or whatever. ;-) Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:37:34 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Kits Message-ID: <199608020737.HAA29473@cso.com> On 1 Aug 96 at 20:59, lfendy@firstsaga.com typed diligantly: > I picked this one up also and found the same problem with the > castings, primarily the cowling and props being "short-shoted". > Somethin about the 30.40 just attracted my interest. Anyone know of > any sources for additional information on this plane? I also > grabbed a Rumpler D.I for the heck of it. I thought for sure someone else would mention this. Although I didn't look for the 30.40, what about the Austro-Hungarian tome by Grosz? Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:34:18 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ Message-ID: <199608020737.HAA29423@cso.com> On 1 Aug 96 at 17:24, MRANDALL@INNOVA.WA.COM typed diligantly: > I'd say the one great opportunity I can see for this is an excellent > web site. The ability to organize the data would be great, and I We already have the web site. However, "expecting" Al to do some of this is wrong. If a message was posted, then it's in the archives. One thing I would like to see is that a person posts the message, plus sends a file as an attachement direct to Al. My intention is to say "the list of colors for 4 or 5 color lozenge is at the WW1 web site" for those type of files. Which is why I want some important things in a FAQ, and just say "here's where the others are at". I can only speak for myself, but my web access is only through work, and we use "lynx", which is text only. I would rather have something on my "hard drive" that I can "grep", or search on, then have to spend them time going out to a web site. Which is why some of the info I want to supply as locations, while other info will remain in the FAQ. I have a portion of the FAQ done. So far I have the list information (sub, unsub, etc.), what the list member database is, what it's used for, and how to get involved with it, and finally the start of the "mail order sources" section. If you want to see it, let me know and I'll email it to you, unless I get a lot of requests, then I'll post it. However, do remember this is still a work in progress, so errors abound, and it's far from being complete. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:43:50 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Sound Off Message-ID: <199608020742.HAA29928@cso.com> On 1 Aug 96 at 23:33, Charles Hart typed diligantly: > No one else seems to have taken this up so I will. Who the > hell wants a 1/72 "framework" kit of a WW I a/c?? Where the Hell > did Eduard concieve that this might be a suitable (i.e. > moneymaking) subject for a kit ????? Why is it that perhaps the > most accurate, or at least highest quality 1/72 scale Sopwith Camel > kit and certainly the most newly engineered one in nearly 30 years > be a "framework" kit. I would think that a "standard" kit with > Eduard's new quality molding of plastic bits plus some PE detail > parts along with some nice decals would easily fetch US$15.00 from > every member of this list. With roughly 100 subscribers, thats and > easy $1500.00 into the Czech economy and doubtless there are a few > on the roster that would stock up with multiple copies. Were it a > Central Powers a/c (judging from some of this list's traffic) the > take would be noteably higher, from this list alone. Hey, an > accurate Fokker E-III with PE goodies in that little ,Master, > munchkin (choose one) scale with PE goodies would be quite sought > after. Sorry guys & gals I don't see the attraction at all in > "skeletal" kits. Flame on. I agree with Charles. More people would buy more "complete" Camels then framework ones. I, for one, will buy maybe one framework, just for shits and grins. However, I don't see the "necessity" to buy all they come out with. Come to think of it, it's not just the Camel, but the E.III as well that has no "modern" mold. Sure, Eduard's brass is great, but I would rather build Jacobs' E.III complete then as a framework. "Trust me, it's finished as Boelcke's E.III!!" "How can you tell?" "Look at the serial number on the ribs!!" Yuck. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:59:00 -0400 (EDT) From: jim lyzun To: wwi Subject: RE: Golden Age? Message-ID: <199608021259.IAA08136@cwconnect.ca> >All the above straight from Al's web sight except the quoted word. The >list already generates a lot of mail though, so perhaps we should keep >golden age activity to the level of background noise. > > >Shane > > > I agree. WWI is not my main topic of interest (sorry!) but the list is very tolerant of other subjects and seems to be attracting people at a goodly rate. My message mailings are staggering now after a short vacation. As a 'purist' (in another era of aviation )I would hate to have found such a great list like this to have it then expanded out of my main field of interest. Personally, I'd subscribe to a number of specific or SIG groups before a generic - looking group. Jim Lyzun ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:15:04 -0400 (EDT) From: jdziak@prolog.net (John Dziak) To: wwi Subject: Re: Original aces... Message-ID: <199608021315.JAA13817@ns1.ptd.net> Hi Shane, Very interesting note about Mr. Edwards. Do you know his address? I would very much like to send him a letter. Thanks in advance for whatever help you can give me. Best, Mark Dziak *************************************** WORLD WAR ONE HISTORIANS AND COLLECTORS Mark Dziak - Specializing in World War One Aviation, especially German, and anything pertaining to Manfred von Richthofen ("The Red Baron") John Dziak - Collector of World War One Books, especially American Division Histories. You are cordially invited to 'DAS JAGDGESCHWADER: The Headquarters for All W.W.I Aviation Enthusiasts' which is located at: http://home.ptd.net/~jdziak ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:18:38 -0500 From: Peter Fedders To: wwi Message-ID: <199608021318.IAA02811@howdy.wustl.edu> On including the golden age (1919-1939 approx). I don't think that it makes sense to enlarge the subject matter of the group. Someone else can easily start another one. If a significant fraction of the messages are not of interest to the WWI modelers, they will lose interest in it. As was pointed out, that is what WWI Aero did in forming Skyways. pfed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 9:22:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "PETER KILDUFF, UNIVERSITY RELATIONS, 21791" To: wwi Subject: Re: Original aces... Message-ID: <960802092245.2342da47@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> To Shane, et al. If there is an address for the 100-year-old Australian loosely connected to the Richthofen saga, I hope it goes to a real researcher, who will preserve the man's reminiscences for posterity. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:34:07 -0400 From: SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov To: "(u)wwi" Subject: Re: Sound Off Message-ID: <0033000001431285000002*@MHS> To the wwi list, I agree with Charles' comments below. Really now, who wants this stuff? I've been waiting for some *GOOD* new 1/72 scale releases and this is what is put out!?! I would much prefer (gross understatement here on my part!) that these new 1/72 Eduard kits be scaled down versions of their wonderful 1/48 kits - not this 'skeletal' framework stuff. This is like one of those "good news/Bad news" jokes IMHO..... Steve H. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Len writes: > >Also the Eduard 1/72 Sopwith Camel should be in the stores shortly, this one >done like the Fokker with the "naked framework". No one else seems to have taken this up so I will. Who the hell wants a 1/72 "framework" kit of a WW I a/c?? Where the Hell did Eduard concieve that this might be a suitable (i.e. moneymaking) subject for a kit ????? Why is it that perhaps the most accurate, or at least highest quality 1/72 scale Sopwith Camel kit and certainly the most newly engineered one in nearly 30 years be a "framework" kit. I would think that a "standard" kit with Eduard's new quality molding of plastic bits plus some PE detail parts along with some nice decals would easily fetch US$15.00 from every member of this list. With roughly 100 subscribers, thats and easy $1500.00 into the Czech economy and doubtless there are a few on the roster that would stock up with multiple copies. Were it a Central Powers a/c (judging from some of this list's traffic) the take would be noteably higher, from this list alone. Hey, an accurate Fokker E-III with PE goodies in that little ,Master, munchkin (choose one) scale with PE goodies would be quite sought after. Sorry guys & gals I don't see the attraction at all in "skeletal" kits. Flame on. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:32:28 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Golden Age - Final Word Message-ID: <199608021332.JAA06227@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Well, the votes are in from the list and although there are some who agree with my original statement, there seem to be more that it would not be good for. In the interest of keeping this list going in the positive direction it has been going for the last two years I guess we'll have to exclude 'Golden Age' aircraft from our charter for now. If you have a specific off-topic question, as always you can post a message then take the discussion off-line to e-mail. Thanks, Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist. University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 96 10:26:10 EDT From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed Message-ID: <199608021424.KAA06396@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Andy, My Drachen is almost done, I'm rigging now. I could send you some drawings, send me a surface mail address. I have sent a couple of these out already. I should do an article for someone... Brian Nicklas National Air and Space Museum Archives Division ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 09:32:22 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: DavidL1217@aol.com Cc: wwi Subject: Re: SMS Wolf Message-ID: <1996Aug02.073106.1155.471545@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> David, I have a recently published book titled Kaiser's Pirates 1914-1918 that cover both ships. Call me 962-0003 and I'll let you know. I think the Emden was an honest to goodness light cruiser and the Wolf was a converted freighter with gun stations. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:01:04 +0000 From: Robert Johnson To: wwi Subject: Re: SMS Wolf Message-ID: <9608020854.aa13786@scosysv.speechsys.com> Charles A. Duckworth writes: > I think the Emden was an honest to goodness light cruiser and the >Wolf was a converted freighter with gun stations. This is correct. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:02:54 +0000 From: Robert Johnson To: wwi Subject: Re: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed Message-ID: <9608020856.aa13805@scosysv.speechsys.com> Brian Nicklas: > My Drachen is almost done, I'm rigging now. > I could send you some drawings, send me a surface mail address. > I have sent a couple of these out already. > I should do an article for someone... Please send me the drawings: Rob Johnson 647 Pratt St. Longmont, CO 80501 Thanks muchly. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:05:50 +0000 From: Robert Johnson To: wwi Subject: Re: Sound Off Message-ID: <9608020859.aa13833@scosysv.speechsys.com> Yo Charles: You fulminate: > Who the hell wants > a 1/72 "framework" kit of a WW I a/c?? Where the Hell did Eduard concieve > that this might be a suitable (i.e. moneymaking) subject for a kit ????? > Why is it that perhaps the most accurate, or at least highest quality 1/72 > scale Sopwith Camel kit and certainly the most newly engineered one in > nearly 30 years be a "framework" kit. Why don't you take the bull by the horns and cover it with doped fabric? Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:12:44 +0000 From: Robert Johnson To: wwi Subject: Re: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed Message-ID: <9608020906.aa13885@scosysv.speechsys.com> Andreas Einsel writes: > Rob suggested a while ago I should fill the balloon with expand-in-place > polyurethane. Would that make the balloon float or just seal the hull to be > filled with any lighter-than-air stuff (sorry, this may sound quite ignorant, > but I am no chemist at all)? It won't float in the air. I suggested the foam as a way of stiffening up a vac-form shell (I've never seen this kit) so that you can anchor stuff to it. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 96 12:27:22 EDT From: Andreas Einsel <100410.261@CompuServe.COM> To: Multiple recipients Subject: RE:'Drachen' kite balloon help needed Message-ID: <960802162722_100410.261_BHG34-1@CompuServe.COM> Hi Brian, you wrote > My Drachen is almost done, I'm rigging now. > I could send you some drawings, send me a surface mail address. > I have sent a couple of these out already. > I should do an article for someone... Great! Please send to Andreas Einsel Hoekerstr. 34 D-21682 Stade Germany Ciao, Andy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 12:57:45 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Whippet & Other comments Message-ID: <1996Aug02.105332.1155.472053@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Charles, I think those things are track grousers, not gas tanks. By the way, did you catch the review I made on the Emhar Whippet a few months ago? Joey, maybe I was looking through the wrong halfs of my bi-focals. I am going to look over the four or five sources I have on the Whippet at home I saw track grousers on some but am pretty sure (or at least thought I was) that there were also petro cans loosely hung off the hull as well - more to follow next week. Does anyone know if Emhar has an email address I'd like to see if we can't get them to do the Mark I, Mark V or Austin armored car in the future. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 96 14:18:45 EDT From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: Decals Message-ID: <199608021817.OAA07632@pease1.sr.unh.edu> General question: When a "new" scheme shows up, and the decals start to flow from the after market companies, do you buy when you see them, even if the firm has a track record for being "off," or do you wait to see if a smaller and/or more reputable firm does the marking "correctly?" This came to mind when someone complained to me that some firms seem to rush a product out, either when seeing the initial art/photo, or do it when they hear competitor X is doing the subject. Myself, I'm not building that fast (unless a review kit), so I can afford to wait. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:35:10 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Decals Message-ID: <199608021333.NAA27577@cso.com> On 2 Aug 96 at 14:18, Brian Nicklas typed diligantly: > General question: > When a "new" scheme shows up, and the decals start to flow > from the after market companies, do you buy when you see them, > even if the firm has a track record for being "off," or do you > wait to see if a smaller and/or more reputable firm does the marking > "correctly?" I feel that correct is better than now. I also think that most on this list would agree. > This came to mind when someone complained to me that some firms > seem to rush a product out, either when seeing the initial > art/photo, or do it when they hear competitor X is doing the > subject. Unfortunately - or maybe fortunately - I don't see this happening in our field. The more reputable WW1 decal makers (Blue Rider and Americal) seem to usually get everything right, whenever they come out. When you get companies like SuperScale or Aeromaster doing them is when flaws start appearing (especially from Aeromaster; SuperScale at least had Dan Abbot help when they did the Dr.I and D.VII sheets). Plus, you'll only get the more "common" schemes. At least with Blue Rider or Americal, you can get some unusual and different schemes (the AEG G and Gotha sheets come to mind). > Myself, I'm not building that fast (unless a review kit), so I > can afford to wait. Definitely wait. However, there is a lot of "uniqueness finding" (meaning one will find a specific scheme and model it regardless if decals are available) in our genre that waiting only has to take place in terms of mail order time. ;-) Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:47:25 -0500 From: meba@cso.com To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Off topic question Message-ID: <199608021346.NAA28384@cso.com> Does anybody know of a service that allows one to send and receive usenet groups across email? TIA! Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 96 15:44:45 EDT From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: Flt Lt Sugden - Palestine Message-ID: <199608021943.PAA08017@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Looking for any info or leads to a Flt Lt Sugden, who flew in Palestine during WWI. May have flown with his dogs (breed - Salukis) No info here, trying to point a patron elsewhere. Any leads anyone? Thanks, Brian Nicklas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 14:35:22 +0000 From: Rick Land To: wwi Subject: Re: Decals Message-ID: <9608021429.aa16780@scosysv.speechsys.com> Matt writes: >The more reputable WW1 decal makers (... Americal) seem to usually > get everything right, whenever they come > out. ... At least with Blue Rider or Americal, you can get some unusual and > different schemes (the AEG G and Gotha sheets come to mind). I suppose it depends on what you mean by "right." Much as I admire the breathtaking variety of its output, Americal's production values vary from mediocre to atrocious. I have seen smeared and out-of-register sheets that were shipped to customers. Their colors are also questionable from time to time. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 18:12:41 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Sound Off Message-ID: <960802181240_376109265@emout07.mail.aol.com> How about covering the Eduard skeletal EIII in saranwrap to look like one of the Eindecker see thru's the Germans played with? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 18:25:37 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Sound Off Message-ID: <960802182536_376116769@emout09.mail.aol.com> Perhaps in central europe, they want to build the skeetins. Have to admit, it's different. Think of the crashed aircraft diorama possiblities..... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:28:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi Subject: Windsock Vol.12 No.4 Message-ID: <199608022228.AAA24796@login.eunet.no> Got the latest Windsock in the mail today, among the contents are: Discussion of the Colour Chips in early issues and the use of suspect samples from R G Gerrard collection when preparing them. Pictures and drawings etc of the Caproni Ca 53 triplane single engined bomber. An interesting article on early RAAF colours by Colin Owers. Addenda to the Sopwith Dolphin datafile. Review of AJP Maquettes new 1/48 kits (Bleriot XI etc) in etched brass with covering material. A long list of forthcoming 1/48 kits from Sierra; among them Gotha G.V, Anatra DS, Sopwith Dolphin,, Lloyd C.V, AEG C.IV and Grigorovich M5. In 1/72 we can expect the Friedrichshafen FF3E (sic) Also a gallery special with Robert Karrs large aircraft, I realy admire the BE2. Not to bad an issue in my opinion, but no "how to build articles", I think the magazine has left modelling for history on not to interesting aircraft and do the most interesting aircraft in the datafiles. In an earlier posting it was some concern about Eduard leaving the WW1 for more modern aircraft, I think we can look forward to more great kits. I supplied them with copies of original Hansa Brandenburg W.33 drawings a few months ago and don't think they would have asked for this material if they didn't have plans for more WW1 aircraft. Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 08:52:00 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: The FAQ Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Aug 1996 meba@cso.com wrote: > On 1 Aug 96 at 17:24, MRANDALL@INNOVA.WA.COM typed diligantly: > > I'd say the one great opportunity I can see for this is an excellent > > web site. The ability to organize the data would be great, and I > > I would rather have something > on my "hard drive" that I can "grep" This is what I'm doing now. Grouping the articles by subject matter, turning them into html files, and setting up a menu to retreive them (through Netscape) easily. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 08:54:01 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Sound Off Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Aug 1996 meba@cso.com wrote: > Sure, Eduard's brass is great, but I > would rather build Jacobs' E.III complete then as a framework. Jacobs flew an Eindekker? Would want to build it. What were the colors and markings? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 09:02:45 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Andreas Einsel wrote: > It is the Roseplane 1/72 Drachen. Andy, how long sould this monster be in 1/48th scale. May be nice to scratchbuild. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:14:50 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: 2 August 1916, Buc Message-ID: <3202D23A.5FB0@host.dmsc.net> Fair day but hot as blazes. Did one flight and one figure eight in 45 h.p. in a.m. & placed up on 50 hp. class. Did all 45 h.p. without one break or bad flight. Wrote & asked Paul R. to come out here on Saturday. Out with 50 h.p. class in late p.m. but didn't get a flight. Hope I get a letter from dear darling Gertrude soon. How my heart longs for her every day and hour. God give her to me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:40:13 -0700 From: "Marian Hollinger, Bradley Omanson" To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ: colors Message-ID: <3202D82D.11C1@host.dmsc.net> > > The second file is on colors. This is > > extremely large, and I'm thinking of not including it in the FAQ, > > but maybe including a section in the FAQ telling of known files > > that can be of help to the modeler, and how to get them. > > It seems, although I haven't paid too much attention, that people > post long lists of colors for various a/c and otherwise. This seems > like an excellent opportunity for collective input on proper colors > for models by all those concerned. I agree that it would be large, > but having the info at hand rather than having to buy datafiles, or > look up info at the library, would be of great benefit to newcomers > and oldtimers alike. > As a novice, and as someone not in driving range of a decent (or even an indecent) hobby shop-- this is the one file that would prove most invaluable. I have actually yet to start my first model-- I've gotten everything I need by mail-- models, books, tools, files, data, everything EXCEPT paints. The colors are really hanging me up. I have a basic WWI selection on the way from Rosemont (shipment indefinitely delayed while they wait for one color) but even after it arrives I can't be certain how accurate they are, or how they correspond to other colors that might be specified in some file. A masterfile that would correlate colors from different companies with specific planes and nationalities would be invaluable. What a splendid idea! Bradley Omanson ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 212 *********************