WWI Digest 211 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Off topic ponderment by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 2) Re[2]: Off topic ponderment by SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov 3) Re: The FAQ by MRANDALL@INNOVA.WA.COM 4) Re: 1/48 Taube? by knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 5) RE: Golden Age? by SDW@qld.mim.com.au 6) Re: WAY OFF topic was Re[2]: IPMS-USA Con Report by Erik Pilawskii 7) Re: Whippet & Other comments by "Valenciano . Jose" 8) Re: Golden Age? by "Ray Boorman" 9) Re: Golden Age by bfelton@ibm.net 10) Re: Datafile ? and new ? by lfendy@firstsaga.com 11) Re: Datafile ? and new ? by lfendy@firstsaga.com 12) Re: Merlin Kits by lfendy@firstsaga.com 13) Re: Golden Age? by lfendy@firstsaga.com 14) Re: SMS Wolf by DavidL1217@aol.com 15) Re: Collections by NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) 16) Sound Off by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 17) RE: Sound Off by SDW@qld.mim.com.au 18) Original aces - and their opponents by SDW@qld.mim.com.au 19) Re: Collections by "Valenciano . Jose" 20) Re: Collections (fwd) by "Valenciano . Jose" 21) Re: Golden Age by "Brian Bushe" 22) RE: Sound Off by "Brian Bushe" 23) Re: SMS Wolf by "PETER KILDUFF, UNIVERSITY RELATIONS, 21791" 24) Re: Collections by "Valenciano . Jose" 25) 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed by Andreas Einsel <100410.261@CompuServe.COM> 26) RE: Original aces - and their opponents by "PETER KILDUFF, UNIVERSITY RELATIONS, 21791" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:46:54 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Off topic ponderment Message-ID: >Stephen Tontoni writes: > >> On the one hand, there aren't that many subjects being >> modelled of the proverbial Golden Age to justify the list. >> ... you want to do a Bristol Bulldog, how many resources >> are there out there for you? Diddly, that's how much. > >Actually, there is quite a bit about. The following come quickly to >mind. > <<>>> Thanks for the list Rob. A couple of additional 1/72 kits come to mind: Junkers F.13 (Revell- Ger.) Junkers G.24 (Revell- Ger.) Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:16:53 -0400 From: SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov To: "(u)wwi" Subject: Re[2]: Off topic ponderment Message-ID: <0033000001429522000002*@MHS> On the addition of Golden Age subjects to the wwi modeling list; I vote no - as (selfishly) I'm not at all interested in "Golden Age" stuff, and secondly, There are already so many messages flying back and forth (of just WW I content) that I'll soon have to 'de-subscribe' out of self defense from my systems operator! Anyway, thats my $0.02 worth.....count me as "a purist" I guess. (John R. would say; "Obsessive Compulsive! ;^)). Steve H. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > On the one hand, there aren't that many subjects being > modelled of the proverbial Golden Age to justify the list. > One the other hand, that's exactly why we (who do 'tweeners) > need support from eachother. There are 15 million kits of > the Me109 with corresponding aftermarket stuff, books, > research, desk calendars, napkin rings and screen savers. > What's left to talk about? But then you want to do a > Bristol Bulldog, how many resources are there out there for > you? Diddly, that's how much. Definitely. So much in the way of some of those WWOther subjects, and so little for tweeners. Heck, WW1 gets more exposure than tweeners!! Even though Squadron/Signal has been coming out with some tweener stuff doesn't make it accurate! I've heard from a few sources how some of S/S's stuff is woefully inaccurate (except for the F2A one, of course ;-)). When was the last time you saw a "Datafile" on the Boeing P-12? > Well as I understand it, this is the WWI list in name only; > perhaps it would be better called the Multiwinged Fabric > Covered list. (sorry armor, ship and figure people) Or the > less than 200mph list. Well, as you have already stated, we would probably drive away (no pun intended;-)) the armor folks. I for one don't want this, since I dabble in armor. > So I think that it would be a good idea to include Golden > Age stuff with WWI stuff. (Heresy! Burn him, burn him!) "...and this isn't my nose, it's a false one!" And I do think we would upset the purests too much, which is why I suggested creating a separate list. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:24:08 +0000 From: MRANDALL@INNOVA.WA.COM To: wwi Subject: Re: The FAQ Message-ID: <199608012125.AA07315@nwnexus.wa.com> > The first is a list of known hobby shops that deal in WW1.... What > would you like to see? Maybe a rating scale like: 1- Hafta go there, no question about it 2- Generally good support, selection, etc. 3- Only go when you're forced to 4- Toys R Us has a leg up on this store > The second file is on colors. This is > extremely large, and I'm thinking of not including it in the FAQ, > but maybe including a section in the FAQ telling of known files > that can be of help to the modeler, and how to get them. It seems, although I haven't paid too much attention, that people post long lists of colors for various a/c and otherwise. This seems like an excellent opportunity for collective input on proper colors for models by all those concerned. I agree that it would be large, but having the info at hand rather than having to buy datafiles, or look up info at the library, would be of great benefit to newcomers and oldtimers alike. > The third file is a general discourse on some of the WW1 model > manufacturers. Again, each discussion can range from "they make WW1 > models", to a complete listing of each and every a/c in the range, > and how they build. This is another I'm thinking of including in the > portion I described in the previous paragraph. However, I am also > thinking of including just a "These are the known manufacturer's of > WW1", and their address, phone, fax, email and web info. Sounds great. > So, what do you all think? Hints and help (in all areas ;-)) most > appreciated. TIA! I'd say the one great opportunity I can see for this is an excellent web site. The ability to organize the data would be great, and I think much more useful than a 10, 50, 500? page FAQ. I would venture a guess that most people on the list have web access (anyone disagree?) and there may be some people here with web access that never use it. All Compuserve and AOL accounts come with web space, and some e-mail accounts people are using may have it as well. I can't volunteer our companies web space at the moment, but may be able to after creating our own in-house server. Text only web pages are extremely small, and with some good organization and minimal graphics, (who wouldn't love to see a scan of the model box or a completed kit, though?? ) a FAQ could easily occupy less than 1 megabyte. I guess the other reason why I suggested a web page is that text can be cut from an e-mail and glued in to a web page pretty easily, making for list subscriber input to the web site a simple matter. Of course I'm talking as if there are volunteers for doing this. And, let me tell you, you are one prolific set of typists, I had 80+ e-mails from after vacation... Any thoughts? Dave +-------------------------+ | David M Randall | | MIS Manager | | Innova Corporation | | Seattle Washington | | mrandall@innova.wa.com | | dave_randall@msn.com | +-------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 23:40:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: knut.erik.hagen@login.eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Taube? Message-ID: <199608012140.XAA28379@login.eunet.no> >> Is there a 1/48 Taube on the market - seems like I saw a vacuum-form kit by >> Lone Star at the 1991 IPMS meet here in St. Louis but I can't remember the >> scale. > >The Lone Star Taube is 1/48. My copy had a poorly formed fuse, IMHO. >The top and bottom fuse surfaces are very rounded and soft, not matching >my reference material well. I liked the wings though. > I have finished this kit, I agree with the above, as I wanted to model a Norwegian Taube a number of modifications were necessary. There were numerous Taube variants, so you can either build the one kitted or modify the basic kit. Maybe Lone Star could release it again with a resin fuselage. Even if it is a monoplane, I found rigging it more difficult than on most WW1 aircraft. I used some piano wire to strengthen the structure, one going through the wing. It didn't help me that I at the time wasn't aware of the fact that the drawings I had were of the original aircraft delivered from Germany, and the restored aircraft hanging in the NTM had been rebuilt before WW1 with new engine, undercarriage, fuselage and wings. (They didn't get money to buy a new aircraft, just to repair the old one.) Maybe we could ask for a good 1/72 Taube from someone, do you know if the French resin kit in that scale is a good one and which version it represents? Knut Erik ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 96 08:05:00 EDT From: SDW@qld.mim.com.au To: wwi%pease1.sr.unh.edu@teksup.mim.com.au Subject: RE: Golden Age? Message-ID: <199608012227.IAA03006@mimmon.mim.com.au> Hello all, Our fearless leader says: >Pre-WWI has never been taboo here. I guess WWI Modeling Mailing list is a >bit of a misnomer, but who would subscribe to the Pre-WWII Modeling Mailing >list? As a nominally WW1 purist who sometimes suffers a burst of enthusiasm for later (but not so late as WW2) aircraft I pose the question - Does it really matter that much? I've been a fairly active denizen of the list for about 18 months and can't recall any instance when any member seemed offended by occasional digressions - even into (shudder) Bf-109 modelling. To that end I suggest that we keep the list as a "WW1 model mailing list" but bestow official approval via the charter on the practice of using our common sense regarding what is reasonably peripheral and what is entirely out of line. Something like Charter: The World War I modelling mailing list exists "principally" for the purpose of distributing information about building models in any scale with subjects from World War I. This includes but is not limited to: Airplanes, Tanks and other ground vehicles, figurines and ships. It is an unmoderated mailing list that is maintained by Allan Wright. Opinions are those of the individual contributors and not those of The University of New Hampshire. All the above straight from Al's web sight except the quoted word. The list already generates a lot of mail though, so perhaps we should keep golden age activity to the level of background noise. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:19:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: WAY OFF topic was Re[2]: IPMS-USA Con Report Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu wrote: [story snipped] > > Should I continue? Doesn't matter really; that's the end of > the story. > AAAAAHHHHHHAAHHHHHAAHAHHHHH!.... Oooo, please don't-- I've got tears running down my face already!... Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "...Then lobbest Thou thy Holy Hand-grenade of Antioc towards thy Foe, who, not being in My sight, shall snuff it...." "...AMEN...." .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:02:29 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Whippet & Other comments Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Charles A. Duckworth wrote: > The next project is to make 20 or so > WWI British petro cans to hang off the sides. This tank must have had poor > mileage and a small gas tank as most in service > photos show the hull covered with WWI 'jerry' cans. Charles, I think those things are track grousers, not gas tanks. By the way, did you catch the review I made on the Emhar Whippet a few months ago? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:14:20 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: , "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Re: Golden Age? Message-ID: <199608020032.RAA22471@cessna.lynx.bc.ca> --------- > From: SDW@qld.mim.com.au > I've been a fairly active denizen of the list for about 18 months and > can't recall any instance when any member seemed offended by occasional > digressions - even into (shudder) Bf-109 modelling. To that end I > suggest that we keep the list as a "WW1 model mailing list" but bestow > official approval via the charter on the practice of using our common > sense regarding what is reasonably peripheral and what is entirely out of > line. I agree with keeping things the way they are. So far I have not seen anyone get too irritated by occasional off subject postings. However rather like Steve 1/72 Hustad :-) it can get dicey if you are at work and this list generates too much mail. Some companies notably one I used to work for, turn a blind eye until some manager starts to cut his budget and looks to see who is getting the most mail over the Net. Just you try and explain why wwi is related to Banking software! Also how on earth do you define golden age, the dratted two stroke MZ 109 was designed and built in the mid thirties. Hawker Furies were flying and the Gloster Gladiater and CR42 were not yet operational. If you say anything that operated in ww2 then there would be some ww1 aircraft that could be nixed. I seem to remember that one country in Europe had a couple or at least one Fokker DVII as a hack or trainer or something. :-,) (Tongue firmly in cheek.) The other day I posted the models I had just finished and one that was in process I needed some help with the Polikarpov but only posted that in passing. Matt replied off list and helped me with the information I needed. Anyway I'll get of the soapbox and let the next contestant step up! Ray Boorman (rboorman@lynx.bc.ca) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Aug 96 14:27:23 +0000 From: bfelton@ibm.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Golden Age Message-ID: <9608012131.AA0030@localhost> Well, for what little its worth, this lurker would truly hate to see post-WWI content marching into the list. I'm a WWI fanatic/bigot, I admit it. Haven't been able to work up even the tiniest smidgen of interest in any plane between late 1918 and the SR-71/Valkyrie era (and precious few of those). [After all, there's not a dime's worth [my dime, mind you] of difference between that 109 thingie, a P-38, or a GeeBee racer -- they are all deadly dull, overdone to death, and supported with vastly more data, more readily availabe, than our chosen addictio^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H um, fetis^H^H^H^H^H, um era...] WWI Aero publishes two fine journals, split between "up to the end of WWI" and "Golden Age". I'd think that, in the interest of focus at least, we would benefit from restricting the list to WWI (and perhaps before). Bill F. donning asbestos flying suit ;-> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:55:26 -0400 From: lfendy@firstsaga.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Datafile ? and new ? Message-ID: <199608020055.UAA03425@pease1.sr.unh.edu> >>> Actually I put the blame on this fine group for the datafiles. Anyone have >>> full list of whats available? >> >>I think there's one on the WWI modelling page. If you can't get it, I >>could mail you a copy. >> >Oops, mind is slowing down...forgot to look over there first. Thanks Joey. > >Okay, anyone care to offer an opinion on what shade of red to use for >Brumowski's Albatross D.III? The cover on the datafile has a very distinct >orange hue to it... > >Len > >_ >I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up! QWicKeSST - The ultimate database QWK reader, and NO limits. #$678803 Special Compile: 1.032B (Beta) >> Slipstream Jet - The QWK solution for Usenets #$678803 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:55:27 -0400 From: lfendy@firstsaga.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Datafile ? and new ? Message-ID: <199608020055.UAA03426@pease1.sr.unh.edu> >> Actually I put the blame on this fine group for the datafiles. Anyone have >> full list of whats available? > >I think there's one on the WWI modelling page. If you can't get it, I >could mail you a copy. > Oops, mind is slowing down...forgot to look over there first. Thanks Joey. Okay, anyone care to offer an opinion on what shade of red to use for Brumowski's Albatross D.III? The cover on the datafile has a very distinct orange hue to it... Len _ BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo QWicKeSST - The ultimate database QWK reader, and NO limits. #$678803 Special Compile: 1.032B (Beta) >> Slipstream Jet - The QWK solution for Usenets #$678803 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:55:27 -0400 From: lfendy@firstsaga.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Merlin Kits Message-ID: <199608020055.UAA03427@pease1.sr.unh.edu> >I don't know if these are new or not, but I did score on a couple of 1/72 >scale Merlin kits that I had not seen in previous conventions. First was a >double kit of an Aviatik C.1 & 30.40. The Aviatik's are a bit on the heavy >side, but are buildable. The wings are of the one piece type. They do not I picked this one up also and found the same problem with the castings, primarily the cowling and props being "short-shoted". Somethin about the 30.40 just attracted my interest. Anyone know of any sources for additional information on this plane? I also grabbed a Rumpler D.I for the heck of it. I did find four of the ESCI 1/72d kits for 1.00 each, at that price I could not resist. A couple of the old SMER kits at 4.00 each made for a nice "bag-o-kits" pretty cheap. The Merlin kits and the two Eduards (D.Va and Morane Saulnier N) more than made of for that. Also the Eduard 1/72 Sopwith Camel should be in the stores shortly, this one done like the Fokker with the "naked framework". Len _ "Could you continue your petty bickering? I find it most intriguing." QWicKeSST - The ultimate database QWK reader, and NO limits. #$678803 Special Compile: 1.032B (Beta) >> Slipstream Jet - The QWK solution for Usenets #$678803 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:55:37 -0400 From: lfendy@firstsaga.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Golden Age? Message-ID: <199608020055.UAA03438@pease1.sr.unh.edu> >Personally I have no problem with any 'Golden Age' content in this list. >I'm just not willing to have this list turn into a WWII list that's all. >As long as there are no objections from the subscribers I'd be glad to add >'Golden Age' aircraft to the lists charter. My son cheerfully reminded me the other day that I was approaching the Golden Age... Len _ Reality-ometer: [\........] Hmmph! Thought so... QWicKeSST - The ultimate database QWK reader, and NO limits. #$678803 Special Compile: 1.032B (Beta) >> Slipstream Jet - The QWK solution for Usenets #$678803 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:03:59 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: SMS Wolf Message-ID: <960801220359_590464039@emout13.mail.aol.com> Like several of you, I snatched up the Revell SMS Emden last year. i (e.e. cummings?) was wondering if the Emden and the Wolf were of the same class. My copy of Janes Fighting Ships of WWI was limited to immediate post war with no meniton of the Wolf. I would love to hang a Fredrichshaven F33 on the deck. Any source drawings for the SMS Wolf? If so, its off to my favorite hobbyshop (CRM, St. Louis, MO - unpaid ad) for the Gold Medal Brass set! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:20:09, -0500 From: NPWE28A@prodigy.com ( KENNETH L HAGERUP) To: wwi Subject: Re: Collections Message-ID: <199608020220.WAA15690@mime2.prodigy.com> -- [ From: Kenneth Hagerup * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Matt typed, >For the 50th anniversary of WWOther, we put together a representation of the Omaha Martin bomber >plant while they were making B-29's (which, incidently, both Nuke droppers came from); two in >1/72nd, and one in 1/200th(?). > >The other collection was all possible planes (that are in kit form) flown by SAC for their 50th >anniversary. > >Both are, in my non-biased opinion, impressive. The bomber plant more so, since it isn't just a >collection of 'planes, but a representation of the plant - more like a diorama. > >Ah, not to toot our horn, or anything, right Ken? ;-) Actually, these are pretty impressive dioramas (even without WWI content) if only because we had a few members finish their first model in literally years to complete this project. To digress even a bit further from WWI, it does bring up the notion of bigger is better in contests. One of our local Hobbytowns sponsored a model contest last week and size was clearly a factor in the judging. The contest was a bit unusual in that all judging was by popular vote by whoever happened to wander into the store during the allotted judging hours. A 1/32 F-14 Tomcat took second in adult aircraft in front of some far superior entries. The Tomcat had some of it's seams filled with tube glue, the others left gaping and it appeared to have been brush painted, including markings with a Q-tip (cotton swab to our non-US advertising-besieged brethren). Back to WWI, APC Hobbies is advertising the Eduard 1/72 photoetched E.III for $18.75. Just a thought, but it seems like a nearly completely p/e kit leaves relatively little for the typical modeler to do to personalize the kit. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 21:37:47 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Sound Off Message-ID: Len writes: > >Also the Eduard 1/72 Sopwith Camel should be in the stores shortly, this one >done like the Fokker with the "naked framework". No one else seems to have taken this up so I will. Who the hell wants a 1/72 "framework" kit of a WW I a/c?? Where the Hell did Eduard concieve that this might be a suitable (i.e. moneymaking) subject for a kit ????? Why is it that perhaps the most accurate, or at least highest quality 1/72 scale Sopwith Camel kit and certainly the most newly engineered one in nearly 30 years be a "framework" kit. I would think that a "standard" kit with Eduard's new quality molding of plastic bits plus some PE detail parts along with some nice decals would easily fetch US$15.00 from every member of this list. With roughly 100 subscribers, thats and easy $1500.00 into the Czech economy and doubtless there are a few on the roster that would stock up with multiple copies. Were it a Central Powers a/c (judging from some of this list's traffic) the take would be noteably higher, from this list alone. Hey, an accurate Fokker E-III with PE goodies in that little ,Master, munchkin (choose one) scale with PE goodies would be quite sought after. Sorry guys & gals I don't see the attraction at all in "skeletal" kits. Flame on. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 96 15:22:00 EDT From: SDW@qld.mim.com.au To: wwi%pease1.sr.unh.edu@teksup.mim.com.au Subject: RE: Sound Off Message-ID: <199608020545.PAA16113@mimmon.mim.com.au> Len writes: > >>Also the Eduard 1/72 Sopwith Camel should be in the stores shortly, this one >>done like the Fokker with the "naked framework". Charles replies: > No one else seems to have taken this up so I will. Who the hell wants >a 1/72 "framework" kit of a WW I a/c?? Where the Hell did Eduard concieve >that this might be a suitable (i.e. moneymaking) subject for a kit ????? Well, you have to wonder don't you. My great fear is that Eduard is about to leave our field of endeavours by way of some diversions into a few oddball kits. Note that they have announced a number of upcoming kits (Hawker Tempest included, not a proper WW1 airplane but at least graced by the name of the sainted Harry) outside the WW1 period. I can't help but feel uneasy about these sideshows. Maybe our golden age is about to end and ... There are still a LOT of important aircraft unkitted in any quality form at all. I *might* buy ONE brass skeleton, but I *would* buy to or three decent SE5a's, DH-4's or Bristol Fighters , and single kits of various Rumplers, LVG's Rolands etc, etc. ...and I'm betting that the non-WW1 cognoscenti who won't build a "normal" Eduard biplane for fear of struts and wires won't build a skeletal one either ! OTOH you I to admit Eduard are only playing to their inherent strength - classy photoetch. Regards Shane ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 96 16:20:00 EDT From: SDW@qld.mim.com.au To: wwi%pease1.sr.unh.edu@teksup.mim.com.au Subject: Original aces - and their opponents Message-ID: <199608020642.QAA17885@mimmon.mim.com.au> Hot on the heels of the recent thread about living aces I read in the newsletter of the Australian Society Of WW1 Aero Historians of the 100th birthday of our Honorary Member Harold Edwards. A denizen of Brisbane (as am I) Harold was a member (instrument fitter) of 3AFC at the time of Richtoffens death, and one of the guards of his body prior to his interrment. Harold was the person who engraved the plaques fitted to his coffin and the cross on his grave. Living history.... Shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:48:12 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Collections Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, KENNETH L HAGERUP wrote: > Just a thought, but it seems like a nearly > completely p/e kit leaves relatively little for the typical modeler to > do to personalize the kit. Personalize? Wellll, you could: 1. Carve your initals on it. 2. Have it bronzed or chromed. 3. Cover it with AEROSKIN of your own design (I'd paint fish scales if I were you). 4. Fill the gaps in between ribs with putty then sand to shape. Excellent paper weight. 5. Add a clear skin just like they really did on an Eindekker during the "Golden Years". I'd use clear adhesive tape. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 14:01:32 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: wwi Subject: Re: Collections (fwd) Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, KENNETH L HAGERUP wrote: > Just a thought, but it seems like a nearly > completely p/e kit leaves relatively little for the typical modeler to > do to personalize the kit. Personalize? Wellll, you could: 1. Carve your initials on it. 2. Have it bronzed or chromed. 3. Add some AEROSKIN of your own design. I'd paint fish scales on if I were you. 4. Apply putty in the spaces in between the ribs and sand to shape. Excellent paper weight. 5. Apply some clear skinning just like they did on a real Eindekker during the real "Golden Years". Use clear adhesive tape for this. Or: use mirrorized glass tinting film. That way you can blind the enemy with out having to be the fabled "Hun in the Sun". ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:11:06 +0000 From: "Brian Bushe" To: wwi Subject: Re: Golden Age Message-ID: <199608020912.KAA26458@itl.net> Hi Guys, sorry to disappoint, but while we are in a Golden Age of modelling, the Golden Age aircraft are about the only era that I have no interest in.... so I guess that's a negative vote. Brian BTW for a bit of my irregular aussie baiting I think the All Blacks have just entered a Golden Age of rugby (better I suppose than a Green and Golden Age!) 'Dear? It's a Mister Grim. He's come about the reaping, or something.' Brian Bushe syclone@itl.net Syclone Systems (44) 1628 789 470 Maidenhead Fax 789 513 Berkshire England ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:11:06 +0000 From: "Brian Bushe" To: wwi Subject: RE: Sound Off Message-ID: <199608020912.KAA26462@itl.net> re: RE: Sound Off > > Well, you have to wonder don't you. My great fear is that Eduard is about > to leave our field of endeavours by way of some diversions into a few > oddball kits. Note that they have announced a number of upcoming kits > (Hawker Tempest included, not a proper WW1 airplane but at least graced > by the name of the sainted Harry) outside the WW1 period. I can't help > but feel uneasy about these sideshows. Maybe our golden age is about to > end and ... > > There are still a LOT of important aircraft unkitted in any quality form > at all. > > I *might* buy ONE brass skeleton, but I *would* buy to or three decent > SE5a's, DH-4's or Bristol Fighters , and single kits of various Rumplers, > LVG's Rolands etc, etc. Got to agree. Where is the Bristol Fighter?!! I would buy a couple. > OTOH you I to admit Eduard are only playing to their inherent strength - > classy photoetch. I dunno Shane, I think the plastic on the albatros was more than adequate! 'Dear? It's a Mister Grim. He's come about the reaping, or something.' Brian Bushe syclone@itl.net Syclone Systems (44) 1628 789 470 Maidenhead Fax 789 513 Berkshire England ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 6:59:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "PETER KILDUFF, UNIVERSITY RELATIONS, 21791" To: wwi Subject: Re: SMS Wolf Message-ID: <960802065928.2341f277@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> Best (relatively) current treatment of SMS WOLF andits "Woelfchen" (the 'e' after the 'o' is in place of an umlaut, which I can't seem to produce in e-mail) is in the Spring 1973 "Cross & Cockade Journal" (Vol. 14 No. 1) by Pete Grosz. Lots of photos of the aeroplane and two of the ship. Peter Kilduff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:33:41 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Collections Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, KENNETH L HAGERUP wrote: > Just a thought, but it seems like a nearly > completely p/e kit leaves relatively little for the typical modeler to > do to personalize the kit. Welllll, you could: 1. Have it bronzed or chromed. 2. Add some aeroskin of your own design, (I'll paint mine with fish scales). 3. Fill the space in between ribs with putty and sand to shape (excellent paper weight). 4. Skin it a with clear skin like they did on an Eindekker during the "Golden Years". (Use clear adhesive tape. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 02 Aug 96 04:28:57 EDT From: Andreas Einsel <100410.261@CompuServe.COM> To: Multiple recipients Subject: 'Drachen' kite balloon help needed Message-ID: <960802082857_100410.261_BHG145-1@CompuServe.COM> Hi folks, now that my Koster Hannover is finished (soon to be visited on my homepage) I have to start with a long-dreaded project - it occupies too much space in my drawers, which I need for other biplane kits. It is the Roseplane 1/72 Drachen. The balloon itself seems to be easy to build, but the rigging... The Drachen can be built in a fully or early inflated stage. The latter seems to be easier, but I'd rather have a floating balloon. Do you have any suggestions on how to achieve that other than letting it hang down from the ceiling? Rob suggested a while ago I should fill the balloon with expand-in-place polyurethane. Would that make the balloon float or just seal the hull to be filled with any lighter-than-air stuff (sorry, this may sound quite ignorant, but I am no chemist at all)? Rob also suggested stiff piano wire for rigging, winch cables and ground handling cables. Is it possible to use them as a support for the balloon instead of making it really float, or would it look silly? Finally the color schemes. Rosemont suggests a grey or brown color base and a mottling of mauve and green. But how large was the pattern and was it sprayed or brushed on? There is not a lot to see on old photographs. Thanks for any help, Ciao Andy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 7:08:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "PETER KILDUFF, UNIVERSITY RELATIONS, 21791" To: wwi Subject: RE: Original aces - and their opponents Message-ID: <960802070830.2341f277@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> I hope "someone" is going to write an article (e.g., for OVER THE FRONT) on the Austrailian centenarian. Peter Kilduff ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 211 *********************