WWI Digest 18 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Methuen Handbook of Colour by The Flying Wrench 2) by "WILSON, TIMOTHY" 3) RE: Revell 1/28 Fokker DVII by SDW@qld.mim.com.au 4) Hobbycraft Nie.17, was Re: Revell 1/28 Fokker DVII by "Matt Bittner" 5) Re: Methuen Handbook of Colour by bshatzer@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Bill Shatzer) 6) Re: Methuen Handbook of Colour by "STEVE HUSTAD" 7) Re: Latest FSM by Erik Pilawskii 8) Re: Methuen Handbook electronic copy by tsunami0@ix.netcom.com (Anthony & Ellen Sanchez ) 9) UPDATES 3 by edward@isomedia.com (Edward Hawkins) 10) Re: Revell 1/28 D VII - AARRGGHH!! by gspring@ix.netcom.com (Greg Springer ) 11) Re: Revell 1/28 D VII - AARRGGHH!! by bshatzer@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Bill Shatzer) 12) Re: WWI digest 16 by cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) 13) Re: Methuen Handbook electronic copy by mindseye@mail.coretech.com (Phil Kirchmeier) 14) Re: Revell 1/28 D VII - AARRGGHH!! by lothar@ncw.net (mark) 15) Re: Revell 1/28 Fokker DVII by SCLexicat@aol.com 16) Aerofax (was Re: WWI-Oriented Hobby Shops) by denatale@nando.net (Rick DeNatale) 17) Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.III by bciciora@pitneysoft.com (Bill Ciciora) 18) WWI books available by David Takemoto-Weerts 19) Blue Max Kits? by Charles Stephanian 20) Re: Methuen Handbook electronic copy by tsunami0@ix.netcom.com (Anthony & Ellen Sanchez ) 21) Re: Blue Max Kits? by "Matt Bittner" 22) Administrivia by aew (Allan Wright) 23) Re: Administrivia by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 24) Re: Administrivia by aew (Allan Wright) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 12:21:12 -0900 From: The Flying Wrench To: wwi Cc: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Methuen Handbook of Colour Message-ID: <199601302121.MAA06953@anchor> At 03:30 PM 1/30/96 -0500, Gerald P. McOsker wrote: >Charles Hart just posted a reference to teh Methuen Hanbook of = > >Colour- Forget it! It is again out of print and my British = > >connections say that Methuen isn=B9t interested in reprinting yet- = > >Sorry! The Wrench exclaims: Sheesh! Just how am I supposed to paint my miniature without a colour guide. Now if everyone was deprived of such sources, then it would no problem. I would simply use day glo colors purchased at the Testors display and tell everyone. That is EXACTLY the color it was in real life. Now go away, your bothering me. Perhaps that is the angle we should work on. If we burn all the reference sources then we could say: "The wheels really were that big and oddly shaped. The EIII actually only had nine ribs in the wing, and isn't amazing how humped up the D.VII wing really was? Best of all we could say "No stupid there were never any wires on these aircraft." Yeeesssssssss. Put the minister of truth and education on it right of way. Hey! It worked for Hitler - didn't it? "The Flying Wrench" Patriot, n., One to whom the interest of a part seem superior to the whole. The dupe of statesmen and the tool of conquerors. Ambrose Bierce, from "The Devils Dictionary" 1906 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 16:21:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "WILSON, TIMOTHY" To: wwi Message-ID: <01I0MLY5ZPWKADCE16@psulias.psu.edu> On 30 Jan 1996, C. Hart commented: >T. Wilson wrote: > >In response to the Wrenchmeister's pithy comments about AOG, I may have >gotten it wrong-- AOW is perhaps more accurate, standing for Albatros >(something) Werk. But hey. I'm at work and don't have my handy-dandy >reference sources with me. > > Perhaps you mean OAW, which stands for Ostdeutsch Albatros Werke. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Charles >hartc@spot.colorado.edu Yes, that's it. I knew I had the correct letters, they were just in the wrong order! Thanks! Tim Wilson Grad-Modern European History Penn State University ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 96 07:31:00 EST From: SDW@qld.mim.com.au To: wwi%pease1.sr.unh.edu@teksup.mim.com.au Subject: RE: Revell 1/28 Fokker DVII Message-ID: <199601302149.HAA24447@mimmon.mim.com.au> >>Also, I noticed that this particular DVII is an AOG (Albatros) built >>aircraft. Did they differ in any spectacular way from the standard models? >AOG, This means "Aircraft On Ground" in my Lexicon. What does it mean in >German? And you said you wern't an expert. Tsk. Tsk. I think he might mean OAW Ostdeutsche Albatros Werke Which is NOT Albatros, though they made the Fokker D.VII as well. Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:48:41 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Hobbycraft Nie.17, was Re: Revell 1/28 Fokker DVII Message-ID: <199601301538.PAA29427@cso.com> On 30 Jan 96 at 15:23, WILSON, TIMOTHY typed diligently: > Not to change the subject, but what does anybody out there think of the > 1/32 scale "Hobbycraft" WWI stuff? I have their Nieuport 17 and apart from > the undetailed instructions, it looks like it has potential. Here comes some thought from a "real", small scale modeler. First of all, if memory serves, the forgot the under-cowl exhaust channel. The other thing that sticks out is the bottom, under-fuselage seam. One of the modelers here built it, but couldn't get the seam to stay together. I think he said if he would have put in sheet styrene to go over the seam inside the fuselage, it would have worked. At one point, Tom's Modelworks came out with conversions for it - at least a Nie.24 if memory isn't failing - again... Although I do have one (as Tiny Elvis puts it: "Gads, that sucker's HUGE!!!") but it will probably remain one of those "I bought it because it is a Nieuport" type thingies... Matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:59:01 -0800 From: bshatzer@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Methuen Handbook of Colour Message-ID: <199601302159.AA02200@ednet1.osl.or.gov> > >The Wrench exclaims: > >If we burn all the reference >sources then we could say: "The wheels really were that big and oddly >shaped. The EIII actually only had nine ribs in the wing, and isn't amazing >how humped up the D.VII wing really was? Best of all we could say "No stupid >there were never any wires on these aircraft." W-e-e-ll, ya know that there was -no- rigging on the models depicted on the old Aurora "700" series box tops even though the photos show fully rigged models. They just built the models without rigging, took a photo of the model and then, with their trusty pen and a straight-edge,....... Now there's the no-fuss, no-muss rigging method! Cheers. -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - "You can crush a man with journalism." William Randolph Hearst ------------------------------ Date: 30 Jan 1996 16:22:16 GMT From: "STEVE HUSTAD" To: wwi Subject: Re: Methuen Handbook of Colour Message-ID: On the source for the Methuen Handbook of color, I got mine from the source listed in the early Windsock Datafiles (No.'s 1 through about 30 or so?). This was around late 1991. I had the P.O. send an international money order separate from my book order, and it arrived in about four or five weeks I think. Steve H. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Ciciora writes: > >Also, for anyone on the list, where does one get one of these >Methuen color references? I did a lookup on my regional public library >dialup database and came up empty. > Bill (and others), you want to look for "The Methuen Handbook of Colour" published by: Methuen London Michelin House 81 Fulham Road London SW3 6RB England The copy I have is a 3rd edition, printed in 1989. I believe that it has been re-published at least once since that time. To offer words of encouragement, these books are EXTREMELY hard to find. I had been looking for about 7 years before obtaining a copy from Leo Opdyke at WW I Aeroplanes (Leo is presently looking hard for more copies, apparently in vain). I have never seen this book in a used book store, though I looked very hard in such places. I have also never found it in a library, though I looked less hard there. One friend of mine had the idea to check in artist supply houses, something I had not thought of, I don't know if he had any success there. If anyone on this list goes a lookin' for this book, I for one would be interested in learning of your progress (or lack thereof) in this quest. GOOD LUCK. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 15:31:34 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Pilawskii To: wwi Subject: Re: Latest FSM Message-ID: 'Tag, All Well, just took a look at the issue. Doooooooooooooooooog. Hell, Allan, I think the link on Squadron/Signal's Web site is more elaborate than FSM's! What a bust-- it could have been *so* good! From that dunce effort, I think I'd give up hope of doing anything with modeling on the Net if I didn't know about out Little Heaven. *Sheesh*.... Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "I should have thought that the introduction to the Front of the BE.2c was a tremendous boon in the work of aerial observation-- one could easily follow the trail of their wreckage straight back to any Hun aerodrome...." A.T.Magnuson, M.P. .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:03:16 -0800 From: tsunami0@ix.netcom.com (Anthony & Ellen Sanchez ) To: wwi Subject: Re: Methuen Handbook electronic copy Message-ID: <199601310103.RAA06460@ix11.ix.netcom.com> Hi everyone; I've looked for a personal copy of this little gem for years with no luck. I finally borrowed one from my art school library and scanned it onto a Syquest 44 meg. cartridge. It takes the whole disk to hold the colorchip portion of the book! Being in the graphic arts business my system is color calibrated, but that takes a bit of work to get right. Anytime I need a color chip(s) for a project, I just cut and paste (on the computer) and print out a project color chart for the specific project I'am working on. I beleive I have a very close reproduction "based on my own system" and my scanned version works very well for me. I believe placing a copy on the net would probably run into some copyright laws. Being in the Art business I personally am very aware of these laws and try my best to mind my p's and q's whe it comes to this stuff. I don't have a problem however if anyone in the group would like a digitized copy for your own personal use. I do all my work on a Mac system using Adobe Photoshop, scan in 24 bit color and print on an HP 1600 PS color printer. I would expect the interested party to provide me with a blank Syquest 44meg cartridge, and postage/handling both directions for a copy. Remember, YOU MUST have a color calibrated system for this to be of any use to you. e-mail me at tsunami0@ix.netcom.com if this is of interest to anyone. later Anthony Sanchez IPMS 33799 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:14:19 -0800 From: edward@isomedia.com (Edward Hawkins) To: wwi Subject: UPDATES 3 Message-ID: <199601310114.RAA27580@isomedia.com> Update on bidding. It appears I mis-understood a bid from "pgb@werple.net.au (Paul Butler)" in relation to the currency exchange between Australian dollars and U.S. dollars. Paul has decided to not continue his bid for the "R" giants book. To Paul; I'm sorry for the mis-understanding. As for posting ALL bids in the open forum, I felt it was the most open and fair way to go about this. I felt if I made it a closed (secret) bidding, People might think I would be making up stuph. Again, I apologize for the mis-understanding of your offer. :) **** THE GERMAN GIANTS - STORY OF THE "R" PLANES 1914-1919 **** This book was up for sale at a set price initially, after it was posted, there were so many responses that I put the book up for bid. There is a smoke stain down the side of the paper edges, the book is still in fine condition. THE GERMAN GIANTS - THE GERMAN "R" PLANES 1914-1918 G.W. HADDOW & PETER M. GROSZ 310 PAGES 1962 PICTURES/PLANS/CHARTS/SPECS/TEXT/WAR HISTORY HARDBACK Current Bidders are: $25.00 Gerald P. McOsker $50.00 Michel.Lefort@ping.be (Michel Lefort) $55.00 Joseph R. Boeke" --Going twice... **** MARINE AIRCRAFT OF THE 1914-1918 WAR **** This book was up for sale at a set price initially, after it was posted, there were so many responses that I put the book up for bid. There is a SLIGHT smoke stain down the side of the paper edges, the book is still in fine condition. MARINE AIRCRAFT OF THE 1914-1918 WAR HARLEYFORD PUBLICATIONS LIMITED 1966 210 PAGES TEXT, PICTURES, PLANS SMOKE STAIN ON SIDE $50.00 Michel.Lefort@ping.be (Michel Lefort) $75.00 agrafix@ix.netcom.com (Richard G. Ivansek ) $90.00 Joseph R. Boeke" --Going twice... Next OPEN post will be final, unless there are any changes in the bidding :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:43:23 -0800 From: gspring@ix.netcom.com (Greg Springer ) To: wwi Subject: Re: Revell 1/28 D VII - AARRGGHH!! Message-ID: <199601310143.RAA11014@ix6.ix.netcom.com> Hi Gary! You wrote: (Snip deluxe.) >Taxas? I pity you. Why? I was born in West (By God!) Virginia. My dad took the state motto ("Let's get the Hell out of Here at a Dead Run!") to heart and we split when I was only four. >- Snip - > >A major piece of vitriolic posting deleted. A flame comes from a paper >match - This was Waco! > >- Snip - > >Oops! I guess my feelings about Taxas slipped out again. That's OK. As I recall, your state motto since the North Slope opened is ""Happiness is a herd of Coloradans headed south with a Texan under each arm." >By the what part of central Taxas do you reside in? Little Berkley on the Colorado, uh, Austin. (Tom is a Democrat who is slowly wising up. I'm a Gun Nut Republican of suspiciously Libertarian leanings. It makes for some interesting parties.) > I am continually amazed at the level of knowledge >exhibited on this forum. I bought the D.VII (paid exactly $29.95, >no sales tax) No sales tax? What an enlightened state! (Snippity-snip.) > Now for the big whine - the wing! I don't get it. What is >the problem? As I look at my finely constructed DML D.VII kit on >the desk, I see the same big fat cantilever wing in 1/48 scale. >Now I will say that the taper is incorrect, horribly incorrect, >In fact - Oh woe! Oh bitter gall! It is a scale abomination I >can't believe it. It looks like, like, I should have saved my >money and bought a Blue Max 1/24 Tailskid series D.VII. This is >unforgivable in today's kit - 1950 yes! - 1990 No! > But wait! I note that the entire lower wing is warped severely >downward. When I bend the top piece of the upper wing it begins >to take on the correct taper. Perhaps if we sand the alignment pins >off and warp the top piece of the upper wing to its correct contour >and then fit and glue the lower piece of the upper wing and sand the >slightly mismatched edges, we can come up with a presentable piece. >If you lay the upper wing on a flat surface you can see just how warped >it is, when you pin it flat you will see the correct taper begin to reveal >itself. OK. Like Baldrick I have a cunning plan. Place both wing halves together. Mark the leading edge of the upper half even with the cabane strut mounting points. Using a razor saw, cut the the apex of each of the first ribs outboard of your marks back 3/4" from the leading edge. Laying the upper half on a flat surface, make up and install one or two spars fron thick gauge sheet styrene. When this is done the thin lower half will readily adopt the correct contour when installed. The cuts will be filled in when you putty in between the ribs to simulate the plywood wrap-around leading edge. Of course you'll have to make new, longer interplane struts to fit or shorten the cabanes. I'm not sure which method will be more accurate at this point. I'll have to consult the plans and yes, I am of the super-detail sub-species. Cheers! Greg "Which pyramid?" "The one with the ever-widening hole." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:28:24 -0800 From: bshatzer@ednet1.osl.or.gov (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Revell 1/28 D VII - AARRGGHH!! Message-ID: <199601310328.AA20683@ednet1.osl.or.gov> Jesse writes: > >Didn't Aurora make large scale Fokker D.VII and SE 5 kits >way back? These large styrene birds were assembled using screws! > >I saw one at an IPMS contest a few years back and the vendor wanted way >too much money for it. I remember the detail being similar to what has >been described here - cheesy bas relief cockpit detail. > >Gist for the Rumor Mill: Could this Revell kit be from the old Aurora molds? Probably not, the 'big' scale Aurora Fokker D.VII and SE 5a kits were 1/19th, not 1/28th and were static display adaptions of what were originally gasoline-powered flying models. And yep, ya' did put 'em together with a screwdriver! Those puppies were no gems in the accuracy department either - pretty close to what the 'flyers' call 'stand-off' scale. Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - "You can crush a man with journalism." William Randolph Hearst ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 23:31:46 EST From: cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI digest 16 Message-ID: <199601310431.AAA19366@conted.swann.gatech.edu> > > At 10:22 AM 1/30/96 -0500, Bill Ciciora wrote: > >On Tue, 30 Jan 1996 Carlos wrote: > > > >>4. The main difference was that the D.III's guns were buried beneath the > >> top decking and thus couldn't be unjammed in flight, while the > >> D.IIIa's were conventionally exposed and within reach of the pilot. > > > >Does this imply that I don't need to run out and get aftermarket > >MGs, since only the barrels will be visible? The instruction drawings > >are little help as to the MG mounting positions. Will holes need to be > >cut into the fuselage? How much of the barrels should stick out? > > > > > > Bill, Your best bet would be to get a hold of the D.III Datafile if you can. It will show that only the ends of the barrels are visible on either side of the engine, almost even with the forward cabane struts, jutting out of small metal cowls beside the last two engine cylinders. You certainly don't need to get complete mg's. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 23:46:29 +0000 From: mindseye@mail.coretech.com (Phil Kirchmeier) To: wwi Subject: Re: Methuen Handbook electronic copy Message-ID: <1389076907-4680957@mail.coretech.com> Anthony: >I would expect the interested party to provide me with a blank Syquest >44meg cartridge, and postage/handling both directions for a copy. Do you use a zip drive by any chance? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Phil Kirchmeier MindsEye Illustration mindseye@mail.cortech.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:57:21 -0800 From: lothar@ncw.net (mark) To: wwi Subject: Re: Revell 1/28 D VII - AARRGGHH!! Message-ID: <199601310857.AAA05040@bing.ncw.net> >On 01/30/96, Bill Shatzer wrote: > >Probably not, the 'big' scale Aurora Fokker D.VII and SE 5a kits >were 1/19th, not 1/28th and were static display adaptions of what >were originally gasoline-powered flying models. And yep, ya' did >put 'em together with a screwdriver! > > I actually put together the SE5a kit when I was about 8 or 9 - screwdriver and all. Still have it in a box somewhere. The detailing was definitely <> anything to write home about...I think the term is "stand way, way, way, off"....Actually, the most memorable part was the pilot figure. My older brother, who is much more artistically talented than I, did the painting - the end result being that the pilot ended up looking like a dead ringer for Bob Keeshan, aka Captain Kangaroo, walrus moustache and all. It's certainly a big plane, but...wouldn't waste any time trying to track one down. Mark R. lothar@ncw.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 07:59:06 -0500 From: SCLexicat@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Revell 1/28 Fokker DVII Message-ID: <960131075904_210766024@emout08.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 30/01/96 20:31:37, you write: >Not to change the subject, but what does anybody out there think of the >1/32 scale "Hobbycraft" WWI stuff? I have their Nieuport 17 and apart from >the undetailed instructions, it looks like it has potential. > > I also have the Nieuport 17 - there was a nice build-up-feature in FSM a year or two back which made me buy the kit: my first WW1 kit since I was a wee small thing. Looks nice to me, nearer the mark than the Camel I also bought, which to my untutored eye has a bad case of "starving horse" about the wings. No-one's ribs should protrude *that* far! Simon Craven, sclexicat@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 08:09:18 -0500 From: denatale@nando.net (Rick DeNatale) To: wwi Subject: Aerofax (was Re: WWI-Oriented Hobby Shops) Message-ID: The Flying Wrench Wrote >Here's another one: Van's Scale Models in Burleson Texas just south of Fort >Worth off I-35. ... >In the same vein and region is Aerofax in Arlington Texas. Although not >exclusivly WWI, Aerofax publishes monographs of all types of aircraft, >mostly jets though. It is a nice book store and has >some nice kits, WWI and others, in the back. Again some wonderful dioramas >and models are displayed. I don't know about Ed, but to the best of my knowledge, the Aerofax store in Arlington is no longer there. I spent some time trying to find it on a business trip to Foat Wuth last year. Although it was still in the phone book, it was not physically present. I've since learned that it closed, and the publishing operation was sold to a British company. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 09:22:53 EST From: bciciora@pitneysoft.com (Bill Ciciora) To: wwi Subject: Re: Glencoe Pfalz D.III Message-ID: On Tuesday January 30, 1996, The Flying Wrench wrote: > I guess this depends on your attitude of scale representation. Some are > happy with a general representation of an aircraft. Some concern > themselves with accurate color schemes more than anything else, as if > the airframe were simply a way to exhibit the paint scheme. And some want > the pucker marks reproduced on the seat for complete accuracy. I would > the latter are overwhelmingly represented on this forum, Indeed, the latter make up the majority of the modelers here, but I am not among them. If Steve Hustad (to use a football analogy) was the Dallas Cowboys, I would be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers . I'm not a member of IPMS, I don't enter contests, I put pilot figures in my models. I just try to get a reasonable representation of the aircraft. Most of the discussions here are way over my head. I'm just trying to learn here, and improve my skill in model building in small increments, so, by the time I'm ready to retire, I might be able to hack out a decent scale model that could compete in a contest. It sounds as if no part of the gun barrel is visible from a side view, only from directly in front. Are the gun ports large enough that the cooling jackets are visible, or is only the barrel itself visible? Bill Ciciora - bciciora@pitneysoft.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:15:44 -0800 From: David Takemoto-Weerts To: wwi Subject: WWI books available Message-ID: <199601311715.JAA05278@franc.ucdavis.edu> SOS (Slightly Off Subject). Just got a new Barnes & Noble mailorder book catalog yesterday. Several items of interest, all hard cover: Longstreet's "The Canvas Falcons", $7.98 Cross' "Zeppelins of World War I", $7.98 von Richthofen's "The Red Baron", $7.98 For catalog or ordering info, call 1-800-THE BOOK. No, I don't work or speak for B & N. David Takemoto-Weerts ph. 916/752-BIKE Bicycle Program Coordinator fax 916/752-8875 Transportation & Parking Services e-mail dltakemotoweerts@ucdavis.edu University of California Davis, CA 95616 District #3 Representative, California Association of Bicycling Organizations (CABO) "The future's all yours, ya lousy bicycles!" --Paul Newman as "Butch Cassidy" _The views and opinions expressed are entirely my own_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:38:33 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Stephanian To: wwi Subject: Blue Max Kits? Message-ID: I have an opportunity to buy a number of Blue Max kits and I'm interested in opinions on both the quality and how buildable they are. Thanks! Charles Stephanian csteph@itsa.ucsf.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:52:15 -0800 From: tsunami0@ix.netcom.com (Anthony & Ellen Sanchez ) To: wwi Subject: Re: Methuen Handbook electronic copy Message-ID: <199601311752.JAA26986@ix9.ix.netcom.com> Phil; You wrote: >Do you use a zip drive by any chance? Strange you should ask. I've been considering purchasing one because some of the Service Bureaus in my area are starting to use them. At this time however I'am limited to the Syqyest format. I'll post a message to the group when I decide what my decision is on the zip drives. In the meantime I believe a friend of mine had mentioned that she was going to buy a zip drive. If so, she may allow me to do the transfer that way. I'll ask, she's out of town for about another week, when she returns. Thanks for your interest, Anthony IPMS 33799 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:58:24 -0600 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Blue Max Kits? Message-ID: <199601311348.NAA12976@cso.com> On 31 Jan 96 at 12:37, Charles Stephanian typed diligently: > I have an opportunity to buy a number of Blue Max kits and > I'm interested in opinions on both the quality and how buildable they are. I have a few of them. The Dr.I (which will probably never be built), the Junkers J.I and - wait for it - wait - wait - the Nieuport 11. I haven't built any of these, but a fellow, non-WW1 modeler here has tackled the J.I, and he wasn't too impressed. Things to watch out for on this one are the gun troughs, and the upper fuselage - at least that what he told me. He also used some type of paint that ended up bleading the two colors together. My guess is that either his paint wasn't mixed well, or he forgot to clean the parts. I've seen obvious patches of mold release on some, so a good cleaning is definitely called for. Overall, I like the quality of the kits. Luckily, he released Blue Max after he went through the teething problems with Pegasus. Unfortunately, there are little to no cockpit details, a shame in this scale. Don't let that stop you, though. Starting with the Nie.28, he has included a complete cockpit. The J.I also has some *minor* outline "problems" to correct. Something to do with the wings; check the review in Windsock. If you can get your hands on the Dr.I *cheaply*, I would use it for the engine. It's in multi-parts, and looks quite nice. Also, if you're lucky to have the Rosemont F.I conversions, the Dr.I decals include Voss' F.I. The Nieuport 11 is really nice. The plastic is "see-through" enough, that you could probably add internal, fuselage structure, and have it "show" through. Again, a multi-part engine. Even though I build 1/72nd, if I had the money I would continue to buy Blue Max. For obvious reasons, I really want the Nie.28, but can't come up with the money for it. If anybody has one they're willing to *give away*, contact me first! (HUGE :-)) Go for it!! Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber, semi-new dad, meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are my responsibility only. "You cannot make anything foolproof, because the fools are so ingenious." - Christian Walters -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:16:05 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Administrivia Message-ID: <199601312016.PAA04334@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Modelers, I've made some changes to the WWW page and the way the archive is handled. Because we were above 3000 messages in the archive the threaded archive viewer was a bit slow to come up. Therefore I've broken the 1994-1995 posts into their own directory and starting in 1996 I'll give each year its own directory. The search engine still works and will search the ENTIRE archive for any regular expression. Also I've automated the archive so each day it will automaticly be updated with the previous day's posts. You no longet have to wait until I get around to updating it to see the latest posts. More good things to come in the future! -Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | I'm not left handed either! - The Man in Black University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling Mosaic Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:47:31 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re: Administrivia Message-ID: <9600318231.AA823121359@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> Hi Al; I have never used the archives; do you have a handy-dandy set of instructions to do something like that? I would appreciate it if you sent me something like that. (to be honest, I haven't the slightest idea of how to access the archives.... once I get a little closer, I might be able to hack a bit. color me clueless!) Thanks and see you later ---- Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:56:15 -0500 (EST) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: Administrivia Message-ID: <199601312056.PAA04696@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Hi Al; > > I have never used the archives; do you have a handy-dandy > set of instructions to do something like that? I would > appreciate it if you sent me something like that. > > (to be honest, I haven't the slightest idea of how to access > the archives.... once I get a little closer, I might be able > to hack a bit. color me clueless!) > > Thanks and see you later ---- Stephen They're on the WWW page. Once you get there it's pretty self-explanitory. The URL is in my .sig file below. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | I'm not left handed either! - The Man in Black University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling Mosaic Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 18 ********************