WWI Digest 164 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Eduard News by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 2) Re[2]: Filling seams by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 3) Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News by Robert Johnson 4) Re: Eduard News by Erik Pilawskii 5) Model Airplanes by FROEHLT@rh.wl.com (Tina Froehlich) 6) Re: Roland D.VI by Erik Pilawskii 7) Re:Screen Saver by "Valenciano . Jose" 8) Re: Over the Front Seminar by DavidL1217@aol.com 9) Re: Over the Front Seminar by bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) 10) Blue Max Pfalz DXII by gspring@ix.netcom.com (Greg Springer) 11) WWI Screen Saver e-mail by lfendy@firstsaga.com 12) Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News by Alberto Rada 13) Sources for fine wire by Zouave7@aol.com 14) Re: Sources for fine wire by DavidL1217@aol.com 15) Re:Screen Saver by Alberto Rada 16) Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 17) Re: Eduard News by SCLexicat@aol.com 18) Re: Over the Front Seminar by "Matt Bittner" 19) Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News by "Matt Bittner" 20) Re: Sources for fine wire by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: Sources for fine wire by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 07:58:17 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard News Message-ID: <9605198351.AA835196463@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> The following is from the latest price list from Eduard Model Accessories in Nepean Ontario (Canada for all you foreigners.) ------------------ Eduard 1:48 Hs-132 (Wrong war again!) Ummmmm..... whats a Hs-132? Is that supposed to be a Hs-123? (fingers crossed) I'm interested in THAT! I don't think that I've ever heard of a Hs-132... Maybe one of those drawing board (bored) models like Huma etc have been releasing? Thanks and talk to you later. --Stephen Tontoni tontoni@halcyon.com stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 08:02:37 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Filling seams Message-ID: <9605198351.AA835196643@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> WWI aircraft did not as a rule have the lower wing and fuselage as one piece. generally, they were butted up against the fuselage and secured with the bracing wire. So a tiny seam ist gut! Really? Then I've been filling and sanding for nothing! That probably means that the FINELY RECESSED PANEL LINES that I've been scribing, and the rivet detail that I have meticulously been trying to reproduce are also not right, huh? Just kidding...... --Stephen Tontoni tontoni@halcyon.com stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:44:30 +0000 From: Robert Johnson To: wwi Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News Message-ID: <9606191037.aa26354@scosysv.speechsys.com> Mr. Tontoni writes: > Ummmmm..... whats a Hs-132? Is that supposed to be a Hs-123? > (fingers crossed) I'm interested in THAT! I don't think that > I've ever heard of a Hs-132... Maybe one of those drawing > board (bored) models like Huma etc have been releasing? The Hs-132 was a jet dive bomber built as a prototype at the end of WW2. It had the jet (a BMW 003?) in a dorsal pod a la He-162. But the pilot lay prone in a narrow, Ar-234-style glass nose and the end-plate fins were semicircular. Armament was two 30-mm MK103 cannon and a 550- or 1100-lb demolition or cluster bomb. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. Rob, robj@speechsys.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:16:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Eduard News Message-ID: > Mark thankfully informed us: > > >Yak-3 (Sorry, again! Why don't they do a Yak-9, nobody does a Yak-9.) > Well, I'd guess most probably because very few people anywhere actually know what the things really looked like! I mean, you examine most Western sources on the matter and they are laughably incorrect. I wouldn't base a mold on them either.... Good material (and esp. scale drawings!)-- that's the main hold-up methinks for a lot of omissions. Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Look-- if I went 'round, sayin' I was an Emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!..." .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jun 96 14:49:16 EDT From: FROEHLT@rh.wl.com (Tina Froehlich) To: wwi Subject: Model Airplanes Message-ID: <99EAC731010F371C@-SMF-> Please find below a list of Radio Controlled Quarter Scale Plane Parts=20 (possibly War Planes), these parts are brand new and still in their=20 original containers. These items once belonged to my Uncle (who was=20 intending on starting his own Hobbie Shop) but recently passed away at an=20 early age. =20 I'm looking for anyone who I could talk to about the following items to=20 possibly get some approximate prices? I've been trying all differnet=20 avenues and it's very difficult to find any information at all. If you=20 could help me and/or know anyone who might be interested please contact=20 me via email (froehlt@rh.wl.com) or by phone (810)656-5462. Thanks for you time! 1.) P-47 THUNDERBOLT 2.) P-47 THUNDERBOLT 3.) P-38J LIGHTING 3 PLANE BODIES 4.) P-38J LIGHTING 3 PLANE BODIES 5.) F4U-1 CORSAIR - FUSELAGE, TAILCONE, & CANOPY 6.) RIGHT & LEFT WING PANELS FOR BYRON ORIGINALS "PIPE DREAM" W/DRW'S & TEMPLATES FOUR WING SPARS ONE SHEET OF PLY (LARGE) TWO SHEETS 12" X 12" PLY 7.) DUBRO AND SULLIVAN CONTROL RODS FOR PIPE DREAM (10 BAGS) 8.) P-51 MUSTANG (WOOD PARTS - BALSA & PLYWOOD) 9.) TURTLE DECK FOR P-47 10.) P-47D THUNDERBOLT (SOME PARTS IN OTHER BOXES) 11.) P-51 MUSTANG (BALSA & PLYWOOD WOODS) 12.) F4U-1 CORSAIR FUSELAGE - TAIL, CONE, & CANOPY 13.) F6F-5 GRUMMAN "HELLCAT" FUSELAGE 14.) F6F-5 GRUMMAN "HELLCAT" FUSELAGE 15.) COWL - TWO ALUMINUM SPINNERS - ONE DISPLAY SPINNER 16.) ONE COWL & THREE CANOPIES P-40 17.) NOSE AND COWLS PC-3 COWL-AT-6 18.) COWL AND CANOPY - CORSAIR 19.) THREE COWLS - FOR FGF-5 "HELLCAT" THREE CANOPIES - FOR FGF-5 "HELLCAT" TWO BELLY PANS - FOR FGF-5 "HELLCAT" TWO TAIL CONES - FOR FGF-5 "HELLCAT" =0C20.) DC-3 NOSE CONE & COWLS 21.) COWLS F6F-5 HELLCAT CESSNA 180 22.) COWL & TAILCONE BEECHCRAFT=20 STAGGERWING G-17 LIBERTY SPORT-B COWL AND WHEEL PANTS 23.) COWLS FOR BEARCAT AND ZERO 24.) COWLS HELLCAT (2) F6F-5 COWL CESSNA 180 25.) TWO PC BOARD HOLDERS CONTROLLERS MICRO MOTORS 26.) ART CHESTER'S "JEEP" GILMORE "RED LION" 27.) COWL SKYRAIDER AND T-28 28.) BALSA WOOD F4U-1 CORSAIR 29.) TWO BYRON ORIGINALS 3-BLADE PROPELLERS 30.) THREE CANOPIES AT-6 TEXAN 31.) MUFFLERS 32.) T-34C LANDING GEAR SETS AND EXTRA AND CANOPY 33.) CANOPIES - MAMMOTH SCALE PLANS T-28B AND A1H SKYRAIDER 34.) THREE 4-BLADED PROPS FOUR SETS MUFFLER MTG BRACKETS FOUR SETS - PARTS FOR BYRON POW'R PROP SYSTEM (COMPLETE) EXCEPT =09 MUFFLERS AND SPINNERS. 35.) POW'R PROP SYSTEM MUFFLERS 36.) 4-WHEEL PANTS FOR WACO YMF-5 37.) COWL F4U-1 (CORSAIR KIT) 38.) COWL AND CANOPY SBD DAUNTLESS 39.) LANDING GEAR ART CHESTER'S "JEEP" GILMORE "RED LION" 40.) TOP FLITE MAGNETIC POWER POINT PROP BALANCERS. 41.) P-38J LIGHTNING 42.) J-3 WHEELS 43.) ELECTRIC (SAIL WINCH) SERVO'S FOR R/C (AIRTONICS) SCALE MODEL =09 AIRCRAFT (14 UNITS) 44.) COWL F4U-1 CORSAIR 45.) WHEEL PANTS FOR STEARMAN PT-17 46.) SPINNERS - FOUR OF THEM (6" DIA. (5 7/8) NOSEN P-51D 47.) THREE 4-BLADED PROPS FOUR SETS - MUFFLER MTG. BRACKETS FOUR SETS - PARTS FOR BYRON POW'R PROP SYSTEMS (COMPLETE) EXCEPT MUFFLERS AND SPINNERS 48.) BALSA WOOD F4U-1 CORSAIR 49.) COWL FOR SUPER STEARMAN PT-17 50.) P-40 ALUMINUM SPINNER 51.) SPARS J-3 CUB (2 SETS) 52.) HEAVY DUTY CLEAR PLASTIC SHEETS CESSNA 206 FOR SIDE WINDOWS AND OTHER AIRCRAFTS (10 SHEETS TOTAL) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:33:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Roland D.VI Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Matt Bittner wrote: > According to the Datafile: > > "...while wings, ailerons, horizontal tailplane, elevator and wheel > covers were covered in printed camouflage fabric; the four colour > version being most commonly used." Hooorrraayyyy!.... > > BTW, Erik, which scheme are you doing? There's a color plate on the > back of the Datafile that has a machine with black stripes running > the length of the fuselage. Definitely looks like one to do... > Hmmm! I'll have to find that Datafile. I had planned to do a machine appearing in this old Loz. blurb: red spinner, red vert.fin/white rudder, wood fuselage, 4-color loz. upper/lower planes, green engine panels, skinny(late) style greek crosses. Forgot the unit-- I'll have to look. Cheers, Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Look-- if I went 'round, sayin' I was an Emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!..." .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:37:51 +0800 (HKT) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re:Screen Saver Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Matt Bittner wrote: > On 18 Jun 96 at 21:53, Alberto Rada typed diligantly: > > > Any one interested in a WW I Screen Saver can find it at: > > www.pccomputing.com go to the next page > > Can someone get this and uuencode it and email it to me? My 'lynx' > browser doesn't seem to be able to see everything, especially since > it's not Java enabled...;-) My very same problem as well. Could someone help me get this screen saver too? ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:07:43 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Over the Front Seminar Message-ID: <960619200742_138654564@emout14.mail.aol.com> I will be leaving tomorrow for the League of WWI Aviation Historians seminar at the NASM. I will be in the model contest with 3 1/48 DML kits: Hantelman's Fokker DVII (Jasta 15 "Death's Head") SPAD XIII Frank Luke SPAD XIII Spa 48 (rooster) Round Wing Tips! Hopefully, I will meet a few of you out there. David Layton ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:32:01 -0400 (EDT) From: bucky@postoffice.ptd.net (Mary-Ann/Michael) To: wwi, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Over the Front Seminar Message-ID: <199606200032.UAA15161@ns1.ptd.net> At 08:06 PM 6/19/96 -0400, DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: >I will be leaving tomorrow for the League of WWI Aviation Historians seminar >at the NASM. > >I will be in the model contest with 3 1/48 DML kits: >Hantelman's Fokker DVII (Jasta 15 "Death's Head") >SPAD XIII Frank Luke >SPAD XIII Spa 48 (rooster) Round Wing Tips! > >Hopefully, I will meet a few of you out there. > >David Layton I"ll be heading down there also. Try not to laugh when/if you see some of my stuff. Good luck ! Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:11:33 -0700 From: gspring@ix.netcom.com (Greg Springer) To: wwi Subject: Blue Max Pfalz DXII Message-ID: <199606200111.SAA26051@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com> Hello Gents! The new Pfalz DXII in 1/48 scale arrived in the old PO box yesterday. My server had a bad crash last night or I would have posted earlier. I had placed the order some weeks ago but was quite surprised to see it turn up. A quick review is in order! This kit is molded in the familiar dark gray/grey. The sprue tends to lap over onto the surfaces of the wings a bit but we're all big boys who can fix this in a jiffy. (Damn! I should quit reading all those Biggles stories.) The wings are molded wonderfully thin with nice rib tapes and trailing edges. The ailerons are molded seperately. When measured against the Datafile plans the main portion of the upper wing comes out a bit too long but when the ailerons are added the total span comes out to the correct 9 meters (in scale!) Each will have to decide for himself what to do about this but I prefer a wing that a bit too long to one that's a bit too short if you have to correct one. The lower wing is molded in one piece and has what appears to be the correct concavity under the fuselage. The fuselage matches the Datafile side views exactly. There is some controversy over the actual length of the fuselage. This is mentioned by Mr. Grosz in the Datafile. All other control surfaces are also very thin and yes, Shane there_are_tapes molded on the ailerons! The engine is of novel construction with the crankcase molded of styrene, the cylinders made of white metal and the camshaft/rocker arm assembly cast seperately and with very fine detail. Intake and exhaust manifolds are molded in styrene. Struts, landing gear struts, guns, blast troughs, radiator, tail skid, interior bulkhead and firewall, control column and rudder bar are in white metal. The radiator is very well done. The cockpit floor, seat, gun support, wheels, axle and prop are all in styrene. Particularly nice is the molding of the windshield support housing but you will have to supply the windshield. The interior of the DXII is rather spartan when compared to the DIII so there won't be too much extra detail to be added. Markings are provided for: Max Kannmer of Jasta 35 with a large yellow K on the fuselge and green painted upper wing with large white chevron stripes and for Paul Vogel of Jasta 23b, the cover subject of the Datafile. The kits arrived in a large envelope with the boxes as 'flats'. No damage was found. The postage for two kits was 2 pounds, eight (new) pence so the effective price for each kit was 18.95 pounds. Eisenhour was helping me examine the new kit. The DXII is perhaps his favorite WWI aircraft so I wasn't surprised that he suddenly grabbed up his example and bolted, muttering feverishly. His wife has since reported that he has locked himself in the closet with the kit and is believed to be doing something very rude! Cheers! Greg PS. Can anyone report on the quality/fidelity of Blue Max's lozenge decals? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:51:56 -0400 From: lfendy@firstsaga.com To: wwi Subject: WWI Screen Saver e-mail Message-ID: <199606200151.VAA01184@pease1.sr.unh.edu> This is a really nice screen saver. Those of you who requested help getting it via e-mail can drop me a note at "lfendy@firstsaga.com" and I'll e-mail it to you. The uue is 1,189KB in size, the decoded zip file is around 850kb. I already deleted the msg's of those who requested this :-< Len _ My poor mouse only has one ball. QWicKeSST - The ultimate database QWK reader, and NO limits. #$678803 Special Compile: 1.032B (Beta) >> Slipstream Jet - The QWK solution for Usenets #$678803 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:48:30 +0400 (GMT-4) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News Message-ID: <199606191848.WAA15919@fw.true.net> At 12:43 PM 6/19/96 -0400, you wrote: >The Hs-132 was a jet dive bomber built as a prototype at the end of >WW2. It had the jet (a BMW 003?) in a dorsal pod a la He-162. But >the pilot lay prone in a narrow, Ar-234-style glass nose and the >end-plate fins were semicircular. Armament >was two 30-mm MK103 cannon and a 550- or 1100-lb demolition or >cluster bomb. >Rob, >robj@speechsys.com. Now isnt this a weird thing to fly, and uncomfortable too ! saludos Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:34:48 -0400 From: Zouave7@aol.com To: WWI Subject: Sources for fine wire Message-ID: <960619223446_417800403@emout09.mail.aol.com> Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for information on seam filling on WWI models. A couple of other questions occurred to me since my last post. In response to one of my first posts to this list, Matt Bittner indicated that he used fine wire for rigging 1/72 biplanes. He mentioned two companies that produced fine wire; Detail Associates who make .006 brass wire and Meteor Productions who make a .004 stainless wire. I do not have access to a model railroad store as he suggestedand I was wondering if anyone has an address and/or phone number for either or both of these companies? Also, does anyone make high quality pilot figures in 1/72 scale? Most of the Pegasus kits I have do not come with them and the pilots that come with most of the injection molded kits aren't that good. Finally, I just picked up the re-released 1/72 German observation baloon (Drachen) by Rosemont Hobbies......Pretty neat and simple vacuum form kit. Thanks again for all your help. James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:23:49 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Sources for fine wire Message-ID: <960619232348_138810568@emout13.mail.aol.com> Try Precision Enterprises, their ad is always in Fine Scale Modeler. They have a nifty ceramic rigging material. It is .004" in greenish black. I just used it on a couple of 1/48 scale kits. Painted it steel the night before applying. Gos on quick. I've been preaching this stuff for awhile. Have I been able to make any conversions? Let me know. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:06:02 +0400 (GMT-4) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re:Screen Saver Message-ID: <199606192006.AAA16635@fw.true.net> At 08:51 AM 6/19/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Can someone get this and uuencode it and email it to me? My 'lynx' >browser doesn't seem to be able to see everything, especially since >it's not Java enabled...;-) > > >Matt >meba@cso.com > > Try going direct to http://www.zdnet.com/pccomp/lowband/freestuff/1001funs.html#2 and then go down till you find WW1 Airplanes Screen Saver It's share ware, it has about 15 screens, in computer graphics and original art by Tom Carlino, it is not WOW ! ! !, CARAMBA ! ! !, INCREDIBLE ! ! ! but its the planes we like please let me know if you finally get it saludos Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:47:27 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News Message-ID: <199606200447.AA23685@ednet1.orednet.org> Alberto Rada wrote: >At 12:43 PM 6/19/96 -0400, you wrote: >>the pilot lay prone in a narrow, Ar-234-style glass nose and the >>end-plate fins were semicircular. >>Rob, >>robj@speechsys.com. > >Now isnt this a weird thing to fly, and uncomfortable too ! Supposedly the prone position was to enable the pilot to take higher G-forces while pulling out of a dive bombing run without blacking out. It probably would have been effective for this purpose to a degree although I'm pretty sure no Hs-132's were ever completed or flown. (and -why- are they doing a weird-o German experimental aircraft which was never flown when what the world -really- needs is a good Halberstadt or Bristol F2B??) Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - "Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:25:56 -0400 From: SCLexicat@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Eduard News Message-ID: <960620042555_333908069@emout09.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 19/06/96 19:43:59, you write: >> >Yak-3 (Sorry, again! Why don't they do a Yak-9, nobody does a Yak-9.) >> > Well, I'd guess most probably because very few people anywhere actually >know what the things really looked like! I mean, you examine most Western >sources on the matter and they are laughably incorrect. Good point, and a good reason for doing a Yak-3 instead. Not only are they available new from the factory (albeit with a substitute Allison engine), but the fairly accessible Yak-11 trainer shares much of the airframe, being originally the Yak-3 UTI. Sorry, end of digression... now back to WW1. If I had a Brisfit I'd be sure to lend it to Eduard ;-) Simon Craven Lexicat Ltd England ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:01:12 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Over the Front Seminar Message-ID: <199606200703.HAA04850@cso.com> On 19 Jun 96 at 20:05, DavidL1217@aol.com typed diligantly: > I will be leaving tomorrow for the League of WWI Aviation > Historians seminar at the NASM. Best of luck to all attending. When you see Greg Van Wyngarden, tell him howdie for me. Also tell him I'm going to call him soon. ;-) "May your rigging stay true!" Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:31:09 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News Message-ID: <199606200733.HAA06190@cso.com> On 19 Jun 96 at 22:13, Alberto Rada typed diligantly: > Now isnt this a weird thing to fly, and uncomfortable too ! Especially the quadraplane version!! Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:31:10 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Sources for fine wire Message-ID: <199606200733.HAA06185@cso.com> On 19 Jun 96 at 23:22, DavidL1217@aol.com typed diligantly: > They have a nifty ceramic rigging material. It is .004" in greenish black. > I just used it on a couple of 1/48 scale kits. Painted it steel the night > before applying. Gos on quick. I would think that .004 would be too small for 1/48th, especially since this is my preferred size in 1/72nd. I would tend to go with something in the .01" range for 1/48th. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:31:09 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Eduard News Message-ID: <199606200733.HAA06178@cso.com> On 20 Jun 96 at 0:46, Bill Shatzer typed diligantly: > (and -why- are they doing a weird-o German experimental aircraft > which was never flown when what the world -really- needs is a good > Halberstadt or Bristol F2B??) Unfortunately, this seems to be another trend that makes no sense. It seems like Eduard wants to jump on the "Luftwaffe '46" boat, along with everybody else. I dabble in German WW2 jets - but only those that have flown. I consider this a more worthy cause than the drawing board schtick. However, it's not as worthy as stringbags and doublewingers. ;-) Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:31:09 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Sources for fine wire Message-ID: <199606200733.HAA06181@cso.com> On 19 Jun 96 at 22:32, Zouave7@aol.com typed diligantly: > In response to one of my first posts to this list, Matt > Bittner indicated that he used fine wire for rigging 1/72 biplanes. > He mentioned two companies that produced fine wire; Detail > Associates who make .006 brass wire and Meteor Productions who make > a .004 stainless wire. I do not have access to a model railroad > store as he suggestedand I was wondering if anyone has an address > and/or phone number for either or both of these companies? Well, you could grab a Model Railroader and try a shop advertising in there - for the Detail Associates stuff. And count yourself luck, because I have the Meteor catalog with me: Meteor Productions PO Box 3956 Merrifield VA 22116 USA 703-591-0652 Fax: 703-591-3996 Also check out: http://meteorprod.com Or email at: MeteorProd@aol.com > Also, does anyone make high quality pilot figures in 1/72 > scale? Most of the Pegasus kits I have do not come with them and > the pilots that come with most of the injection molded kits aren't > that good. Plum Blossom design. I know they do a German two seat crew, since they come with the Lloyd, and I believe they do a British two seat crew as well. Both sets have one figure sitting, and the other standing. Rosemont is your best bet for these. > Finally, I just picked up the re-released 1/72 German > observation baloon (Drachen) by Rosemont Hobbies......Pretty neat > and simple vacuum form kit. Sure, the basic structure is easy, but wait until you "rig" it! More power to you. ;-) Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 164 *********************