WWI Digest 114 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) re: Albatross D.Va "Stropp" by "Matt Bittner" 2) Re: WWI trivia at SMF website by "Matt Bittner" 3) re: Albatross D.Va "Stropp" by "Matt Bittner" 4) WW1 Armor Drawings by "Matt Bittner" 5) Re: Experimental SE5 night camouflage by robj@speechsys.com 6) Kit Recommendations/Reviews by Jim Barnes 7) Re: Experimental SE5 night camouflage by robj@speechsys.com 8) Stencil Data by aew (Allan Wright) 9) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 10) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by robj@speechsys.com 11) Re: Stencil Data by robj@speechsys.com 12) Re: WWI trivia at SMF website by SMHead 13) The Red Baron on TV by modlctzn@pacificrim.net (Mike Franklin) 14) Re: Stencil Data by "Matt Bittner" 15) Re: WWI trivia at SMF website by "Matt Bittner" 16) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by "Matt Bittner" 17) Re: The Red Baron on TV by aew (Allan Wright) 18) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 19) Re: Stencil Data by robj@speechsys.com 20) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) 21) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 22) Re[2]: Stencil Data by SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov 23) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by SCLexicat@aol.com 24) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 25) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by robj@speechsys.com 26) Re: Experimental SE5 night camouflage by robj@speechsys.com 27) Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 28) Re: Albatrai drawings by John Roll (John P. Roll) 29) Re[2]: Kit Recommendations/Reviews by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 07:19:07 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: re: Albatross D.Va "Stropp" Message-ID: <199605010723.HAA15861@cso.com> On 30 Apr 96 at 23:36, Brian Nicklas typed diligantly: > The Stropp decals were done by IPMS Spruce Goose (right Charles), > as a fundraiser for a Mike Fritz WWI trophy (I think). > The same sheet shows up in the recent resin 1/48th kit, with the > "copyright IPMS Spruce Goose" cut out of the sheet. > Hmmmm... Is this the Tom's Modelworks resin? Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 07:24:45 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI trivia at SMF website Message-ID: <199605010729.HAA15917@cso.com> On 1 May 96 at 1:55, S.M. Head typed diligantly: > Just thought I'd shamelessly plug our (IPMS Houston's) website by letting > you all know the May trivia is a WWI aircraft identification. (address > below) Sorry, Scott, but your site is *not* lynx friendly. You might want to do something about it. ;-) Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 07:26:37 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: re: Albatross D.Va "Stropp" Message-ID: <199605010731.HAA15962@cso.com> On 30 Apr 96 at 18:54, Jose Alcober typed diligantly: > Does anyone know if decals are avialable for Stropp? In 1/48th scale? (I > know, I know, I'm sorry but I can't help it.) In information would be > appreciated. As you've already read, IPMS Spruce Goose has manufactured them. I have two sets, and am willing to let one go. Email me for details. Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- 1/72nd WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "A bus station is a place where the bus stops. A train station is a place where the train stops. Why do they insist on putting a workstation on my desk? I wonder..." - Michel Lefort -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 08:24:49 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: WW1 Modelers Subject: WW1 Armor Drawings Message-ID: <199605010829.IAA16642@cso.com> The following was on r.m.s. Anybody have the issues in question they're willing to copy for me? TIA! ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Subject: Re: WWI TreadHead Question Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 19:36:25 -0400 From: yoshida@mbnet.mb.ca (Blair Yoshida) Newsgroups: rec.models.scale References: _________________________________________________________________ In article , Jesse Thorn wrote: >Can anyone tell me where to find scale drawings and reference material of >these two WWI French AFVs: > > Char St. Chamond > Schneider > Scale drawings for the St. Chamond were published in the Vol 11 No 2 issue of Tankette, and drawings of the Schneider C.A. were published in the September 1986 issue of Military Modelling. ------- End Of Forwarded Message ------- Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- 1/72nd WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "A bus station is a place where the bus stops. A train station is a place where the train stops. Why do they insist on putting a workstation on my desk? I wonder..." - Michel Lefort -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:05:29 +0000 From: robj@speechsys.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Experimental SE5 night camouflage Message-ID: <9605010855.aa17370@scosysv.speechsys.com> Thanks Mark. I am familiar with NIVO. It was adopted as a standard service color and used in action. Fabric surfaces were painted with a uniform coat of this color. Metal and plywood were either NIVO, black dope, or grey PVO (Pigmented Oil Varnish). The scheme I am referring to appears in a photograph printed in JWR Taylor's Combat Aircraft of the World from 1909 to the Present (Putnam's, 1969) and in at least one edition of Grinnel-Milne's Wind in the Wires. The caption in the latter identifies the pilot standing by the aircraft as Grinnel-Milne. Taylor attributes the photo to the Ministry of Defense in the UK, though without a negative number, and says the airplane was used by 61 (Home Defence) Sqdn. The picture shows an SE-5A from the starboard rear quarter and slightly above. The airplane appears to have Neame night sights on both guns and a perforated, conical flame damper on the exhaust pipe. It is finished in a pattern of 9-12" squares of two or three slightly different shades. I would say they were painted on, but have no reason to say they weren't printed. All are very regular. The rows of squares run at an angle of about 30 degrees above the aircraft thrust line, so that they appear to spiral around the fuselage. There are no markings on the fuselage and, if memory serves, none visible on the wings eithe (this lack of insignia is consistent with late-war night-fighter practice, at least on Camels). It is conceivable that this is one of the wacky home front paint schemes that were so popular in Home Defense and training units. But I have seen a lot of photos of these, and the aircraft in question looks much too drab, unaesthetic, and functional. Mightn't this be an experimental finish inspired by the German night lozenge patterns used on R and G planes? Does anyone have any knowledge of how one goes about getting information from the UK MoD, such as the name of the office involved (archives, photographic office, historical branch, etc.)? Thanks again. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:59:03 -0400 From: Jim Barnes To: wwi Subject: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960501090501.325f9752@chelsea.ios.com> Gents: I am new to the group, so forgive me if my questions have already been covered. I have located the following 1/48 scale kits in my area: Glencoe's Pfalz D-III, Nieuport 28, and Spad 13 Lindberg's SE-5 Can anyone tell me if these kits are any good? Have they been reviewed in Scale Modeler? Are there other 1/48 kits of these aircraft that are better? Thanks in advance. Jim Barnes barnes29@chelsea.ios.com "Out on that Information Superhighway---I'm riding a moped." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:30:55 +0000 From: robj@speechsys.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Experimental SE5 night camouflage Message-ID: <9605010921.aa17584@scosysv.speechsys.com> Thank you for the information. This is exactly what I need. Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:25:53 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Stencil Data Message-ID: <199605011525.LAA01080@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hi everyone, I'm back and well rested, ready to model. Here's a question: I'm looking for some white letters to put some words on the side of a Se5a's fuselage. They would be similar size to those for Coleshaw's "Black Maria" cockpit lettering. Any Ideas where I could get letters this small or how to make 'em? -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist. University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 96 08:28:48 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <9604018309.AA830964663@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> Gents: I am new to the group, so forgive me if my questions have already been covered. I have located the following 1/48 scale kits in my area: Glencoe's Pfalz D-III, Nieuport 28, and Spad 13 Lindberg's SE-5 Can anyone tell me if these kits are any good? Have they been reviewed in Scale Modeler? Are there other 1/48 kits of these aircraft that are better? You're going to get a lot of response; the only one that I can talk to directly is the Spad 13. DML/Dragon makes a very nice one. Actually two of them. These are kind of complex kits with stainless steel photo etched parts. It includes rigging wire. Decals.... I bought the Glencoe Spad *book* and it came with a very nice Superscale or Microscale sheet. I have *heard* a lot of negative comments about Glencoe kits in general. The only Glencoe that I have though is the JF2 Duck -- which I will summon the courage to build someday. Not great fit and lots of flash, so I tend to believe the Glencoe comments. Lindberg SE-5 would be an older kit, but I don't know of another SE-5 out there right now. Good luck! ----Stephen Tontoni seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu tontoni@halcyon.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:44:46 +0000 From: robj@speechsys.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <9605010935.aa17707@scosysv.speechsys.com> The Glencoe kits are, with the exception of the Albatros D.IIIs, reissues of the Aurora kits with nice decals and colorful boxes. I have the Pfalz and the Nieuport 28. Both were very nice in their day and still unbeatable for the price now. Glencoe has removed the molded in markings of the original Aurora version and, on the Ni 28, tried to add control surfacces--rather clumsily. Both kits will require a bit of accurizing (the Ni 28 looks way too skinny around the rear) but nothing that looks to difficult. Fit is average for the period (i.e. not great today). I remember the Lindberg, though I haven't seen one lately. It too was excellent in its day, but detail is probably lacking. I am going to get one one of these days. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:47:59 +0000 From: robj@speechsys.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Stencil Data Message-ID: <9605010938.ab17729@scosysv.speechsys.com> Go to a drafting supplies or art materials store and hunt through the dry-transfer letters (Chartpack, Letraset, and Geotype) for a font that matches fairly well. Then rub them down onto clear decal stock. If necessary, you can make minor changes to the shapes of the lets by GENTLY scraping with a hobby knife. Clear coat them or apply Microscale liquid decal film to them and, when they are dry, apply them like regular decals. Hope this helps. Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:04:40 -0400 From: SMHead To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI trivia at SMF website Message-ID: <9605011058.aa09947@mail.iapc.net> >On 1 May 96 at 1:55, S.M. Head typed diligantly: > >> Just thought I'd shamelessly plug our (IPMS Houston's) website by letting >> you all know the May trivia is a WWI aircraft identification. (address >> below) > >Sorry, Scott, but your site is *not* lynx friendly. You might want >to do something about it. ;-) >>Matt Oops! Sorry Matt. I guess I should include a text-only version, but I just have trouble finding the time (have to build a model or two every once in a while). Even as text only, the trivia contest would not work well, as it is all image identification. It's name is misleading I suppose, but then- I make up the rules as I go. What fun! With apologies- Scott Head ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:02:07 -0700 From: modlctzn@pacificrim.net (Mike Franklin) To: wwi Subject: The Red Baron on TV Message-ID: <199605011702.KAA09970@olympic.pacificrim.net> Tonight, May 1, 1996, on the Arts and Entertainment (A&E) channel on the cable TV, the 'Biographies' Program will highlight the Baron von Richthofen. It comes on at 8 0'clock Pacific Time, check your local listings. I do believe the show is broadcast during several different time slots throughout the day. No guarantees about the accuracy, but there will probably be some good, if not perfect, film footage. Later, Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | _________________________|__________________________ | | | \ | / | | | "BEWARE THE PUN | ______\_O_O_/______ | | | IN THE SUN!" | / \ | | | annon. | (((((((+))))))) | | | ______|____________\_____/_____________|______ | | / \ | | []/_______\[] | | [] [] | | Mike Franklin is modlctzn@pacificrim.net | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:59:27 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Stencil Data Message-ID: <199605011204.MAA19181@cso.com> On 1 May 96 at 11:42, robj@speechsys.com typed diligantly: > Go to a drafting supplies or art materials store and hunt through the > dry-transfer letters (Chartpack, Letraset, and Geotype) for a font > that matches fairly well. Then rub them down onto clear decal stock. > If necessary, you can make minor changes to the shapes of the lets by > GENTLY scraping with a hobby knife. Clear coat them or apply > Microscale liquid decal film to them and, when they are dry, apply > them like regular decals. Also check your model railroad shop. Woodland Scenics (amongst others) make wonderful dry transfers that could satisfy your wants. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:59:27 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI trivia at SMF website Message-ID: <199605011204.MAA19174@cso.com> On 1 May 96 at 12:04, SMHead typed diligantly: > Oops! Sorry Matt. I guess I should include a text-only version, but I just > have trouble finding the time (have to build a model or two every once in a > while). Even as text only, the trivia contest would not work well, as it is > all image identification. It's name is misleading I suppose, but then- I > make up the rules as I go. What fun! Actually, if you provide the image as a link, instead of embedded, lynx will work. The image just has to be downloaded to look at. Which is what I do. Lynx runs on our "firewall" Unix box; when I encounter an image I want to download, I do so then email it to my PPP account on my PC. Then using some software (lview pro, if you're keeping track ;-)) I can view the image. Sure, not as quick as *some* sites (and quicker than others), but it does work. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:59:28 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <199605011204.MAA19178@cso.com> On 1 May 96 at 11:02, Jim Barnes typed diligantly: > I am new to the group, so forgive me if my questions have already > been covered. I have located the following 1/48 scale kits in my area: Welcome! Although you're building in the *wrong* scale (which is a joke, BTW, so :-)) the kits you've located are wonderful starting points - if you're not concerned too much about accuracy, and just want a *REAL* aircraft model in your collection. > Can anyone tell me if these kits are any good? Have they been > reviewed in Scale Modeler? Are there other 1/48 kits of these aircraft that > are better? I believe the SE5a was re-reviewed in Windsock Vol. 4 No. 3. Nothing yet on the Glencoe (Aurora) ones, but someone is bound to, either in Windsock or one of the "other" modeling magazines. You might - if you're into in - check out the Tom's Modelworks resin/photoetch "detail sets" now available for those Glencoe kits. As Stephen has said, if you're willing to "deal with it", the DML is far better, and more accurate. However, there is a lot more work - not to correct it, mind you, but just in building it. As for the Pfalz, Eduard should *eventually* release their version. It's been planned now for over a year, but due to problems hasn't been released (makes you think that they took lessons from Meikraft on this one ;-)). However, there is a resin Pfalz availble from Tom's Modelworks, and one from Blue Max, but be prepared to shell out some money - and for maybe even more work, especially in the case of the Tom's one. The Nieuport 28 has also been kitted from Blue Max, and if you have the money, is recommended. This is Blue Max's first foray into a full cockpit, and everything I've seen and read say it's a great kit. However, if you just want to build to have one, and don't care about accuracy or anything like that, go for it. These aren't bad kits, just - as Rob mentioned - aged. Heck, the price of these is worth it for the decals alone! ;-) Just build, and go for it! :-) Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- 1/72nd WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 13:25:20 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: The Red Baron on TV Message-ID: <199605011725.NAA01816@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Mike Franklin tells us: > Tonight, May 1, 1996, on the Arts and Entertainment (A&E) channel on the > cable TV, the 'Biographies' Program will highlight the Baron von Richthofen. > It comes on at 8 0'clock Pacific Time, check your local listings. I do > believe the show is broadcast during several different time slots throughout > the day. No guarantees about the accuracy, but > there will probably be some good, if not perfect, film footage. There is some good newsreel footage in this program as well as some good stills. I was impressed enough to order a copy from A&E. All of their programs can be purchased for $20 over the phone from them. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist. University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 10:37:58 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <199605011737.AA07863@ednet1.orednet.org> Rob wrote: >Glencoe has removed the >molded in markings of the original Aurora version and, on the Ni 28, >tried to add control surfacces--rather clumsily. Actually, the control surfaces were there in the original Aurora/K&B issues. What Glencoe (or someone) has done is grind off the raised 'insignia markings' from the molds and in the process, they screwed up the control surface lines. They shudda left well enough alone! >I remember the Lindberg, though I >haven't seen one lately. It too was excellent in its day, but detail >is probably lacking. I am going to get one one of these days. Detail is lacking but the overall shape and scale is pretty good. Only a couple of points which really need fixing, if memory serves - which it occasionally fails to do at my age. :-) I'll blow the dust off my old notes some time this evening and see if I can post a summary of the required fixes. Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - -"These days the buck stops nowhere." Don Henley - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 11:51:44 +0000 From: robj@speechsys.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Stencil Data Message-ID: <9605011142.aa18669@scosysv.speechsys.com> > Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 13:04:37 -0400 > Reply-to: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > From: Matt Bittner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Stencil Data > On 1 May 96 at 11:42, robj@speechsys.com typed diligantly: > > > Go to a drafting supplies or art materials store and hunt through the > > dry-transfer letters (Chartpack, Letraset, and Geotype) for a font > > that matches fairly well. Then rub them down onto clear decal stock. > > If necessary, you can make minor changes to the shapes of the lets by > > GENTLY scraping with a hobby knife. Clear coat them or apply > > Microscale liquid decal film to them and, when they are dry, apply > > them like regular decals. > > Also check your model railroad shop. Woodland Scenics (amongst > others) make wonderful dry transfers that could satisfy your wants. > > > Matt > meba@cso.com > In case anyone is interested, the converse is also true. When looking through the cabinets of Geotype sheets at my local art supplies outfit, I found, to my surprise, two drawers of model railroad transfers right there among the Franklin Gothic and the architects' trees and toilet symbols. I know nothing about their scale or accuraccy, but you got an 11 x 17" sheet for around $6.00 (Geotype is often substantially cheaper than Letraset or Chartpak). Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 13:14:26 -0500 From: Charles_A._Duckworth@notes.up.com (Charles A. Duckworth) To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <1996May01.104209.1155.303742@uprr-internet.notes.up.com> Ray Rimmel (Windsock) had an article in Scale Modeler many years ago rebuilt the Pfalz DIII from an old Aurora kit and it looked great but the state of the art has changed with Eduard I plan to merely built mine for the fun of it can and wait for Eduard's. As in the other comments the decals are worth the price of the kit. I also purchased the N-28 and it had some problems with the plastic being crazed, I plan to send the piece back to them. Does anyone know if Airfix plans to re-release the HP 0/400? I have mine to the point where I've removed the large ribbing on the wings and have a Rosemont set to make a HP 0/100 version. It's not a bad kit (I'm amazed how large the top wing span is) considering it's age (1969). Chaz Boyzer (sp?) in the last two years wrote a great book on the HP bomber series (0/100, 0/400 and 0/1500) if anyone is interested in furthering their education on these planes. Does anyone know if there is a good 1/48 FE2b on the market or planned to be released before my rigger quits. Charlie Duckworth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:41:51 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: Charlie Duckworth wrote: >Does anyone know if Airfix plans to re-release the HP 0/400? I have mine to >the point where I've removed the large ribbing on the wings and have a >Rosemont set to make a HP 0/100 version. It's not a bad kit (I'm amazed how >large the top wing span is) considering it's age (1969). Chaz Boyzer (sp?) in >the last two years wrote a great book on the HP bomber series (0/100, 0/400 >and 0/1500) if anyone is interested in furthering their education on these >planes. > They did it back in the mid-1980's so I suppose there is always hope for a re-issue. >Does anyone know if there is a good 1/48 FE2b on the market or planned to be >released before my rigger quits. I think that there is an Aeroclub kit of this with injection (?) plastic parts. Anyone out there have one of these ? Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:38:41 -0400 From: SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov To: "(u)wwi" Subject: Re[2]: Stencil Data Message-ID: <0033000001085034000002*@MHS> Al, et al, (;^)) For decals of small numbers and letters of various sizes, shapes and colors; find a hobby shop that specializes in pampering the over pampered Railroad model builder, as they usually have huge inventories of "Walthers", and other brands of decals for RR that would boggle the mind of us IPMS types. Whenever I need something odd like this that's my first stop. I have yet not to find something suitable. Steve H. (The Mad Norseman!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Go to a drafting supplies or art materials store and hunt through the dry-transfer letters (Chartpack, Letraset, and Geotype) for a font that matches fairly well. Then rub them down onto clear decal stock. If necessary, you can make minor changes to the shapes of the lets by GENTLY scraping with a hobby knife. Clear coat them or apply Microscale liquid decal film to them and, when they are dry, apply them like regular decals. Hope this helps. Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:51:54 -0400 From: SCLexicat@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <960501155153_284950459@emout16.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 01/05/96 15:48:44, you write: > Lindberg SE-5 would be an older kit, but I don't know of > another SE-5 out there right now. I *believe* but have no proof, that the Monogram 1/48 SE5a, which I am in mid build of at the moment, is a revision of the Lindberg kit with a completely retooled and more accurate fuselage. This is based on the normally accurate and incredibly voluminous memory of my best modelling buddy who has whole decades of Scale Aircraft Modelling filed away inside his head. Any views on this from the massed experts of the group? While on the subject, is the Smer kit 1/48 or 1/50, and if 1/48 is it related to either of the above? Simon Craven England ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 14:13:09 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: >In a message dated 01/05/96 15:48:44, you write: > >> Lindberg SE-5 would be an older kit, but I don't know of >> another SE-5 out there right now. > >I *believe* but have no proof, that the Monogram 1/48 SE5a, which I am in mid >build of at the moment, is a revision of the Lindberg kit with a completely >retooled and more accurate fuselage. This is based on the normally accurate >and incredibly voluminous memory of my best modelling buddy who has whole >decades of Scale Aircraft Modelling filed away inside his head. Any views on >this from the massed experts of the group? > >While on the subject, is the Smer kit 1/48 or 1/50, and if 1/48 is it related >to either of the above? It was my recollection that the Monogram Se-5a is from the AURORA mold, with some minor retooling, such as to remove those engraved markings and that the SMER/ARTIPLAST kit is its pirated cousin. Isn't the Lindberg Se-5a kit currently (or at least recently) available from that manufacturer ? Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 14:09:25 +0000 From: robj@speechsys.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <9605011400.aa19652@scosysv.speechsys.com> > Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:56:02 -0400 > Reply-to: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > From: Charles Hart > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews > >In a message dated 01/05/96 15:48:44, you write: > > > >> Lindberg SE-5 would be an older kit, but I don't know of > >> another SE-5 out there right now. > > > >I *believe* but have no proof, that the Monogram 1/48 SE5a, which I am in mid > >build of at the moment, is a revision of the Lindberg kit with a completely > >retooled and more accurate fuselage. This is based on the normally accurate > >and incredibly voluminous memory of my best modelling buddy who has whole > >decades of Scale Aircraft Modelling filed away inside his head. Any views on > >this from the massed experts of the group? > > > >While on the subject, is the Smer kit 1/48 or 1/50, and if 1/48 is it related > >to either of the above? > > It was my recollection that the Monogram Se-5a is from the AURORA > mold, with some minor retooling, such as to remove those engraved markings > and that the SMER/ARTIPLAST kit is its pirated cousin. Isn't the Lindberg > Se-5a kit currently (or at least recently) available from that manufacturer > ? > > Charles > > hartc@spot.colorado.edu > Yes, the Lindberg kit is available under their own label. I have seen them in local hobby shops and discount stores. I also think it was different from the Aurora, though I'm not sure I ever saw one of the latter. The Lindberg SE-5 is of similar age and quality to their JN4 and Curtiss Goshawk, which are also again available (the 1/48 British biplanes now sold by Lindberg, such as the Fury and Gladiator, are the old Inpact kits). Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 14:25:31 +0000 From: robj@speechsys.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Experimental SE5 night camouflage Message-ID: <9605011416.aa19800@scosysv.speechsys.com> Mr. Muth was kind enough to reply with just the sort of info I needed ("There are some good photos and 1 color drawing in the Windsock datafile special on the Se5a. It lists the colors as "NIVO over PC-10".) He goes on to ask "what NIVO means." It is an acronym for Night Invisible Varnish Orfordness, a green camouflage dope named for the RNAS station at Orfordness, where the color was developed. I have also seen illustrations of a Camel "Comic" nightfighter in a pale blue and NIVO finish in Giorgio Apostolo's Color Profiles of World War I Planes (if memory serves). The book said it was also experimental and post-war (ca. 1919). Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 15:05:54 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <199605012205.AA19869@ednet1.orednet.org> Simon Craven wrote: >I *believe* but have no proof, that the Monogram 1/48 SE5a, which I am in mid >build of at the moment, is a revision of the Lindberg kit with a completely >retooled and more accurate fuselage. This is based on the normally accurate >and incredibly voluminous memory of my best modelling buddy who has whole >decades of Scale Aircraft Modelling filed away inside his head. Any views on >this from the massed experts of the group? No, the Monogram SE5 was a 'cleaned up' reissue of the old Aurora kit which actually is a 1/46th scale kit. When Aurora went out of the plastic kit business in the early '70's all its molds were sold to Mongram - among Aurora's WW1 kits, Monogram only reissued the SE5a the D-VII, and the Camel. The Lindberg SE5a is a completely separate mold and actually -is- 1/48th scale. >While on the subject, is the Smer kit 1/48 or 1/50, and if 1/48 is it related >to either of the above? The Smer kit originated in England from an outfit called Merit. It was a blatant 'rip-off' of the original Aurora kit (as were all the rest of Merit's WW1 models save the DH-2 and the Avro 504). Of course being a 'rip-off', it was the same weird 1/46 scale as the original Aurora. When Merit went broke, all its molds migrated to Italy where they were reissued by an outfit called Artiplast or Aliplast. Artiplast added one original WW1 mold of its own - the 1/50th scale SVA-5. And, eventually the whole lot of molds migrated once again to Czechoslovokia where SMER started producting the whole she-bang - the six aurora copies from Merit (Albatros D-III, Fokker tripe, Fokker D-VII, Sopwith Camel, SE5, and Nieuport) plus the two Merit originals (DH-2 and Avro 504) plus the SMER original of the SVA 5. (Don't think I've forgotten any!) Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - -"These days the buck stops nowhere." Don Henley - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 96 17:44:09 -0500 From: John Roll (John P. Roll) To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatrai drawings Message-ID: >>On 30 Apr 96 at 13:55, Erik Pilawskii typed diligantly: <> >> >>Anybody have the complete run of articles on Albatros two seater >>types from Scale Models? I've got a few, but am far from the >>complete set. And Charles typed: > I have xerox copies of these. > >Charles > >hartc@spot.colorado.edu Does anyone recall approximately when the articles were published? I have a fairly complete set of Scale Models (from the late '70s and up) but there are a lot of magzines and I need to know where to look! If anyone else would like copies, and if I can find them, just let me know! Happy Modeling! John Roll j-roll@maroon.tc.umn.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 May 96 16:09:39 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Kit Recommendations/Reviews Message-ID: <9604018309.AA830992204@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> And, eventually the whole lot of molds migrated once again to Czechoslovokia where SMER started producting the whole she-bang - the six aurora copies from Merit (Albatros D-III, Fokker tripe, Fokker D-VII, Sopwith Camel, SE5, and Nieuport) plus the two Merit originals (DH-2 and Avro 504) plus the SMER original of the SVA 5. (Don't think I've forgotten any!) Supermarine Walrus; it sits on my shelf collecting dust from the nearby litterbox. Cat litter. This is not a place of honor. ----Stephen Tontoni ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 114 *********************