WWI Digest 112 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Albatrai book sources by Alberto Rada 2) Re: Albatrai book sources by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 3) Re: Albatrai book sources by "Matt Bittner" 4) Re: Albatrai book sources by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 5) Re: Austrian books by jim lyzun 6) ideas by crow@cp.duluth.mn.us (Crofoot) 7) Re: FI/Dr I Color Schemes by DavidL1217@aol.com 8) Re: Lohner "L" Drawings? by DavidL1217@aol.com 9) Re: Emden by DavidL1217@aol.com 10) Re: Emden by DavidL1217@aol.com 11) Re: ideas by DavidL1217@aol.com 12) Re: ideas by DavidL1217@aol.com 13) Re: Austrian books by Robert Woodbury 14) Re: FI/Dr I Color Schemes by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 15) Re: Austrian books by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 16) Re: ideas by "S.M. Head" 17) re: Albatross D.Va "Stropp" by GRydquist@gnn.com (Gregory Rydquist) 18) Re: ideas by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 19) Re: Ideas by Richard Humberstone 20) Re: ideas by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Austrian books by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: Austrian books by "Matt Bittner" 23) Re: Yellow Cowlings by SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov 24) Experimental SE5 night camouflage by robj@speechsys.com 25) Re: ideas by SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov 26) Re: Austrian books by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 27) Re: ideas by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 28) Latest from Rosemont by "Matt Bittner" 29) Re: ideas by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 30) Roseparts ideas by Brian Nicklas 31) Re: Austrian books by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:20:21 +0400 (GMT-4) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatrai book sources Message-ID: <199604291120.PAA12615@fw.true.net> At 12:59 PM 29/04/96 -0400, you wrote: >Mark Shannon has written: >> >>My sources tell me that the Squadron/Signal "Albatross Fighters in Action" is >>currently not in print. I hope that will be remedied, since there's now a >>good kit out and there seems to be a revitalization of WWI subjects in >>general. (It's now such ancient history it's quaint -- like Napoleonics and >>American Civil War??) I can't find the Datafiles in question, but will keep >>searching. >> > I forgot to add that I thought the Squadron book is out of print. >Several other volumes in this series have been re-published, so there is >hope. > >>Charles, in Colorado, also wrote: >> >>> The Smithsonian book is an excellent reference for Albatros D-V >>>machines and is good reading in general. It is still in print and is >>>available from Zenith books among other vendors. The Windsock Datafile >>>Special on the Albatros fighters is a good reference covering the D-I >>>through D-Va fighter types. Now if only there was a similar reference on >>>Albatros TWO-seaters !! There are also the individual Windsock Datafiles >>>on the D-II, D-III and D-V, although there is overlap in the photos used >>>between these individual datafiles and the datafile special volume. >> >>A big Thank You to both of you, and I will keep looking. >> > The best source for Windsock Datafiles is probably to order them >directly from Albatros publications, the address is: > >Albatros Publications Ltd. >10 Long View >Berkhamsted >Herts HP4 1BY >UNITED KINGDOM > > He will accept personal checks written for the order amount (provided >you allow for current exchange rates) and also pay an extra 3.00 pounds for >bank charges ( about US$4.50 with today's exchange rate). If you need to >know an up to date currency exchange rate surf on over to: > >http://cnnfn.com/markets/currencies.html > > This is a handy site for your book marks list. > >Charles > >hartc@spot.colorado.edu > > > > Try Wise Owl Worldwide Publications they have most Albatros's publications still available, also you can subscribe to Albatros publications through them. Their phone: 310-375-6258 Their fax: 310-375-0548 I believe you will get them quicker and avoid the check clearing charges. Saludos Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:34:52 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatrai book sources Message-ID: >At 12:59 PM 29/04/96 -0400, you wrote: >>Mark Shannon has written: >>> >>>My sources tell me that the Squadron/Signal "Albatross Fighters in Action" is >>>currently not in print. I hope that will be remedied, since there's now a >>>good kit out and there seems to be a revitalization of WWI subjects in >>>general. (It's now such ancient history it's quaint -- like Napoleonics and >>>American Civil War??) I can't find the Datafiles in question, but will keep >>>searching. >>> >> I forgot to add that I thought the Squadron book is out of print. >>Several other volumes in this series have been re-published, so there is >>hope. >> >>>Charles, in Colorado, also wrote: >>> >>>> The Smithsonian book is an excellent reference for Albatros D-V >>>>machines and is good reading in general. It is still in print and is >>>>available from Zenith books among other vendors. The Windsock Datafile >>>>Special on the Albatros fighters is a good reference covering the D-I >>>>through D-Va fighter types. Now if only there was a similar reference on >>>>Albatros TWO-seaters !! There are also the individual Windsock Datafiles >>>>on the D-II, D-III and D-V, although there is overlap in the photos used >>>>between these individual datafiles and the datafile special volume. >>> >>>A big Thank You to both of you, and I will keep looking. >>> >> The best source for Windsock Datafiles is probably to order them >>directly from Albatros publications, the address is: >> >>Albatros Publications Ltd. >>10 Long View >>Berkhamsted >>Herts HP4 1BY >>UNITED KINGDOM >> >> He will accept personal checks written for the order amount (provided >>you allow for current exchange rates) and also pay an extra 3.00 pounds for >>bank charges ( about US$4.50 with today's exchange rate). If you need to >>know an up to date currency exchange rate surf on over to: >> >>http://cnnfn.com/markets/currencies.html >> >> This is a handy site for your book marks list. >> Alberto wrote: >> >Try Wise Owl Worldwide Publications > >they have most Albatros's publications still available, also you can >subscribe to Albatros publications through them. > >Their phone: 310-375-6258 >Their fax: 310-375-0548 > >I believe you will get them quicker and avoid the check clearing charges. > You may get them quicker but the prices for the publications themselves are higher than buying direct, even after figuring in the bank charges. For example I just picked up a copy of the Fokker D-VIII Datafile reprint as part of a larger order (this way we avoided paying for postage), given the exchange rate at the time the single Datafile cost was US$12.50, including a portion of the bank charge for that order. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:16:23 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatrai book sources Message-ID: <199604291420.OAA21121@cso.com> On 29 Apr 96 at 14:58, Alberto Rada typed diligantly: > Try Wise Owl Worldwide Publications Okay. Here I am. I bet some of you were wondering when this would come about. Anyway, Rosemont also handles Windsock/Datafiles, and they also have a subscription service. 610-398-0210 (I'm embarrassed. I actually have that number memorized! Gads...;-)) Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:13:38 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Albatrai book sources Message-ID: >On 29 Apr 96 at 14:58, Alberto Rada typed diligantly: > >> Try Wise Owl Worldwide Publications > > > >Okay. Here I am. I bet some of you were wondering when this would >come about. > >Anyway, Rosemont also handles Windsock/Datafiles, and they also have >a subscription service. > >610-398-0210 > >(I'm embarrassed. I actually have that number memorized! >Gads...;-)) > > How much are they charging for single Datafiles ? List price for the newest Datafiles is 8.50 pounds, bundle it into a big enough order (40 pounds and you don't pay postage), and today's exchange rate is US$1.51/ 1.00 pound makes the cost of one Datafile about US$13.00. At that price I can wait for it to come surface mail from the UK. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:20:05 -0400 From: jim lyzun To: wwi Subject: Re: Austrian books Message-ID: <199604292320.TAA09871@mail.cwconnect.ca> At 08:34 AM 4/29/96 -0400, you wrote: >In adding some items to my publication database, I came across some >forgotten books. As the subject says, they're from an Austrian >group, and they're known (or titled) as "OFH nachrichten >sonderheft". I only have three, but am interested in more. I >originally purchased mine from Articles of War, but I haven't seen >them advertised there for awhile. And for those who haven't seen >them, they're completely "auf Deutsch" (that's "in German" for you >English types ;-)). > >Anybody know where they can be purchased from? They're really handy >books, and the one on the H-B C.I especially useful. And for you >"larger scale" freaks, their drawings are all in 1/48th. > The address is: OFH Nachrichten Pfenninggeldgasse 18/2/14 A-1160 Vienna, Austria FLIGHTLINES ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:31:51 -0500 From: crow@cp.duluth.mn.us (Crofoot) To: wwi Subject: ideas Message-ID: <199604300031.TAA27368@CP.Duluth.MN.US> Does anybody have any suggestions as to what they would like to see from Roseparts? I'm looking for ideas for complete kits and conversions. No 1/48 please. Its not that I've got anything against that monster scale but, honestly, we haven't had a lot of luck with our 1/48 pieces. Thanks in advance for the help. Tim Crofoot ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:05:17 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: FI/Dr I Color Schemes Message-ID: <960429210517_524606225@emout16.mail.aol.com> Bill, That's the photo I was referring to! By the way, was JG1 in existance when Voss was killed? I thought it came about at a later date. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:15:04 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Lohner "L" Drawings? Message-ID: <960429211501_524614377@emout17.mail.aol.com> Try looking at Die Flugzeuge der kuk Luftfahrtruppe und Seeflieger 1914-1918. There are several photos and some color profiles of the type. This book is more through than O'Connors but in German. Mostly photos though. They show the L as having a varnished fuselage, clear doped wings with the red and white "Naval" chordwise red-white-red stripes on each of the upper wing tips, white ID # on the nose, the rudder was red-white-red (horizontal stripes), the fin was either linen or red, and the stab/elev. with as single chordwise succession of red-white-red. Wing floats are dull aluminium ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:16:15 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Emden Message-ID: <960429211615_524615361@emout18.mail.aol.com> I have the Emden. I agree on the need for the brass. I will also drill out the windows and fill with crystal clear. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:27:00 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: Emden Message-ID: <960429212658_524624510@emout18.mail.aol.com> Yes, how about a SMS Seydlitz kit. I have the old Profile book on her. And for 'equal time' British Lion class battlecruisers that blow up when hit in the magazine. Again parts for the sisterships. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:33:15 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: ideas Message-ID: <960429213314_524630151@emout10.mail.aol.com> Here are a couple of Roseparts ideas: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:37:26 -0400 From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi Subject: Re: ideas Message-ID: <960429213725_524633500@emout18.mail.aol.com> Here are a few ideas: 1. Probably not doable, but I'll throw it out - an Ilya Mouramets conversion to make the type Beh model into a G. 2. An accurate Albatros DI/DII 3. Balloon handling equipment for the Drachen and crew for same 4. And most overlooked- the RAF RE8 and the Bristol F2B. The Airfix kits need to be replaced! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:54:11 -0400 From: Robert Woodbury To: wwi Subject: Re: Austrian books Message-ID: <31862993.26AE@per.dwr.csiro.au> Matt, Do you have any more details on these books. I'll be in Austria in about 2 months and would like to keep an eye out for that sort of thing. BTW, for the rest of the group- does anyone know of any aviation museums in Austria? Thanks, Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:53:26 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: FI/Dr I Color Schemes Message-ID: <199604300253.AA16082@ednet1.orednet.org> >That's the photo I was referring to! How big is your photo and which book/magazine is it in? > >By the way, was JG1 in existance when Voss was killed? I thought it came >about at a later date. > My references give a date of June 26, '17 for the orders authorizing MvR to form JG.1 (Richthofen Jagdgeschwader) Given that there must have been a little lag time between the order and the physical assembly of the Jagdgeschwader, it still should have been fully formed, up and operational by the time Voss arrived in July. Definitely would have been fully operational as a Jagdgeschwader (as opposed to just being a 'paper' organization, operational only by the individual Jastas) by September 23, when Voss was killed. Cheers, Bill -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - -"These days the buck stops nowhere." Don Henley - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:02:44 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Austrian books Message-ID: <199604300302.AA21197@ednet1.orednet.org> Rob wrote: > >BTW, for the rest of the group- does anyone know of any aviation museums >in Austria? There's not much - there's are two museums in Vienna without much, all things considered. The military museum has got an Albatros B.1, a Saab 'Tunnen' J29 jet, and a couple of other a/c. The Technical museum has got a Etrich Taube, an Aviatik-Berg D.1, Lilienthal glider and a couple other miscellaneous things with wings. And that's all I know of. Cheers, Bill -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - -"These days the buck stops nowhere." Don Henley - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:43:57 -0400 From: "S.M. Head" To: wwi Subject: Re: ideas Message-ID: <9604292319.aa11516@mail.iapc.net> David replied in part: >2. An accurate Albatros DI/DII > >4. And most overlooked- the RAF RE8 and the Bristol F2B. The Airfix kits >need to be replaced! I'll second these two! And I'll add that I'd be interested in anything with two wings that floats. A nice Bristol M1C would be nice too, I don't know if there are any decent ones out there. Scott Head Statement- "The internet is like an unending tree of sprue, linking one component to the next..." -- Newsgroup post Reply: "That's stretching it." -- Shot Cadet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:48:30 From: GRydquist@gnn.com (Gregory Rydquist) To: wwi Subject: re: Albatross D.Va "Stropp" Message-ID: <199604300546.BAA02537@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com> Brian: Vol 23, #3, Autumn 1982 of "Cross & Cockade" page 276 says the earliest record of Albatros D.Va 7161/17 places it at the DeYound Memorial Museum in San Francisco as a gift of the French Gov't (This fact comes from the Smithsonian's publication). As of 1982, no identity of the pilot had been determined. "Stropp" has a number of meanings in German. In Low German dialect or nautical terminology, it is a term for a loop or sling made of rope, chain or wire. It's also a joking term for a "good-for-nothing rascal." In post WWI times at least (and perhaps concurrently?) it was a childhood nickname for a"cheerful, droll roguish, chubby smiling little boy." Exhaustive research has failed to yield a town or family name of Stropp. (Sorry if this is repitituous. It appears the first time I sent this message that it just dissappeared, or just went to Brian, when I intended to send it to the group. {We all have to start somewhere}). Greg Rydquist ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:04:56 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: ideas Message-ID: <199604300604.AA23908@ednet1.orednet.org> > >Does anybody have any suggestions as to what they would like to see from >Roseparts? I'm looking for ideas for complete kits and conversions. >No 1/48 please. Its not that I've got anything against that monster scale but, >honestly, we haven't had a lot of luck with our 1/48 pieces. > How 'bout an accurate USAAC Liberty-engined DH-4 fuselage conversion for the Airfix kit? (actually, you could kick in some of the cowling variations for some of the various RAF engines and widen the attraction of these conversion parts) The previous stab at doing the US liberty engined DH-4 (was that by Blue Rider?) didn't come close to being right and a more accurate 'stab' is something I would purchase. How 'bout a Le Pere LUSAC 11? (sigh, I didn't think so!) OK, then a Dorand AR-1! (sigh, not that either?) Very well, I'd settle for the DH-4 conversion(s)! Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - -"These days the buck stops nowhere." Don Henley - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 09:28:17 GMT From: Richard Humberstone To: wwi Subject: Re: Ideas Message-ID: <830852905.658.0@stratauk.demon.co.uk> FAO Bill Shatzer The Liberty engined DH4 was produced by Esoteric, not Blue Rider. Just setting the record straight. Richard Humberstone Blue Rider Publishing ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:20:02 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: ideas Message-ID: <199604300724.HAA00470@cso.com> On 29 Apr 96 at 20:31, Crofoot typed diligantly: > Does anybody have any suggestions as to what they would like to see from > Roseparts? I'm looking for ideas for complete kits and conversions. > No 1/48 please. Its not that I've got anything against that monster scale but, > honestly, we haven't had a lot of luck with our 1/48 pieces. I think you've already done them in 1/48th, but how about all the "different" Pup cowls in the "correct" scale? As for kits, I definitely would like to see a Pfalz D.VIII - especially seeing Steve's marvelous job. A bit on the big side, but finding that info on the Hansa Brandenburg G.I has piqued my interest. As I think of more, I'll definitely send them your way. ;-) Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?" - the Scarecrow in Wizard of Oz -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:00:09 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Austrian books Message-ID: <199604300904.JAA02032@cso.com> On 29 Apr 96 at 19:17, jim lyzun typed diligantly: > The address is: OFH Nachrichten > Pfenninggeldgasse 18/2/14 > A-1160 Vienna, Austria Vielen Dank! Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:05:21 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Austrian books Message-ID: <199604300909.JAA02103@cso.com> On 29 Apr 96 at 22:51, Robert Woodbury typed diligantly: > Do you have any more details on these books. I'll be in Austria in about > 2 months and would like to keep an eye out for that sort of thing. Nope. Just what I already posted - plus Jim's address. Sorry. Matt meba@cso.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:56:59 -0400 From: SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov To: "(u)wwi" Subject: Re: Yellow Cowlings Message-ID: <0033000001080301000002*@MHS> Ken, et al, See the latest issue of Windsock magazine (Vol 12/No 2) for a short review of this DML Fokker D.VIII kit w/bust and speculation as to it's colors (vs. what's shown on the box art!) before you start this model. I also agree; wrong scale that! ;^) Steve H. (The Mad Norseman!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- While I must admit that I come down on the green side of the Voss' cowling controversy, I would like to build a yellow cowled DVIII. Could anyone make a copy of the painting instructions of DML's 1/48 DVIII in marine markings. The box top painting is dramatic (but the scale is, unfortunately, 1/48). Thanks, Ken Hagerup 11419 South 43rd Ave Omaha, NE 68123 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:59:31 +0000 From: robj@speechsys.com To: wwi Subject: Experimental SE5 night camouflage Message-ID: <9604300850.ab09166@scosysv.speechsys.com> Does anyone have any information about an RFC or RAF experimental night camouflage consisting of medium-sized squares? A photo of it appears in our local library's edition of The Wind in the Wires, and I think I've seen it published a number of other places as well. Who was responsible for it? What were the colors used? Why was it not adopted for wider use? Thanks. Rob Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:24:36 -0400 From: SHUSTAD@email.usps.gov To: "(u)wwi" Subject: Re: ideas Message-ID: <0033000001080493000002*@MHS> Tim Crofoot, et al, Yes indeedie!! I have a few WW I 1/72 scale ideas for you to try out! How about: Albatros C.X Rumpler 6B1 (Floatplane) Albatros W.4 (Floatplane) Friedrichschafen FF 33 L (Floatplane) Pfalz D.VIII Halberstadt C.V Halberstadt D.II Fokker D.III Fokker D.V Junkers Cl.I (ESPECIALLY!!!) Gotha WD.14 (Floatplane) Steve H. (The Mad Norseman!) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: ideas Author: _wwi at SSWGATE Date: 4/29/96 7:35 PM Does anybody have any suggestions as to what they would like to see from Roseparts? I'm looking for ideas for complete kits and conversions. No 1/48 please. Its not that I've got anything against that monster scale but, honestly, we haven't had a lot of luck with our 1/48 pieces. Thanks in advance for the help. Tim Crofoot ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:39:36 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Austrian books Message-ID: >On 29 Apr 96 at 19:17, jim lyzun typed diligantly: > >> The address is: OFH Nachrichten >> Pfenninggeldgasse 18/2/14 >> A-1160 Vienna, Austria To continue this thread, I list a few of the titles available from this address: Sonderheft 14, Sondermarkierungen der k.u.k. Jagdflugzeuge 1916-18, published in 1986 This book consists of many b&w drawings of Austro-Hungarian aircraft and describe markings for about 70 machines. Text all auf deutsch. Sonderheft 15, FeldPilot Oblt Othmer Wolfhan, published in 1988. This volume is a brief service biography of Wolfhan and includes a few photos and b&w profiles of various machines that he flew. Text auf deutsch with an english summary. Price 50 austrian schillings (about US$5.00 at today's exchange rate). Sonderheft 20, Hansa-Brandenburg C-I, no publication date given. A small volume a bit thicker than a Windsock Datafile. Photos published inside the cover, drawings inside illustrating many markings this machine wore, no color. Text all auf deutsch. Sonderheft 22, Hansa-Brandenburg D-I, published in 1995. Similar in format to Sonderheft 20. Photos published inside the cover, drawings inside illustrating many markings this machine wore, no color. Text all auf deutsch. Price 60 Austrian schillings (about US$6.00 at today's exchange rate). This organization also published a volume on the Phoenix fighters which I have briefly seen once. I think it is older than all of the publications listed above. The information in Sonderheft 14 has subsequently been published in: Die flugzeuge der k.u.k. Luftfahrtruppe und Seeflieger 1914-18, by E. Hauke, W. Schroeder und B. Toetschinger in 1988. Published by H Weishaupt Verlag, Graz, Austria, 224 pages. ISBN 3-900310-46-7. Text all auf deutsch with many, many color profiles and lots of photos. Other titles of interest to this group: Die Albatros (oeffag) Jagdflugzeuge der k.u.k. Luftfahrtruppen, by P Schiemer, 1984, 264 pages, published by H Weishaupt Verlag, Graz, Austria. ISBN 3-900310-15-7. Text all auf deutsch with many, many photos. A book strictly devoted to the Austro-Hungarian use of the Albatros fighter. If only there was a book of similar scale on the GERMAN use of this aircraft !! Die k.u.k. Seeflieger- chronik und dokumentation der oesterreichisch-ugarishcen Marineluftwaffe 1911-1918, by P. Schupita, 1983. Published by Bernard & Graefe Verlag- Koblenz. ISBN 3-7637-5426-1. The only color in this book are two profiles on the dust jacket. Inside there are many, many photos (I never knew that so many photos existed of WRECKED A-H seaplanes !) along with numerous small line drawings, similar in size to those found in Putnam aviation books. Text is all auf deutsch. Hope this helps. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:45:15 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: ideas Message-ID: >Does anybody have any suggestions as to what they would like to see from >Roseparts? I'm looking for ideas for complete kits and conversions. >No 1/48 please. Its not that I've got anything against that monster scale but, >honestly, we haven't had a lot of luck with our 1/48 pieces. > One idea: How about some detail pieces for the recent Ilya'Muromets kit. A couple of types of engines could be made for this, Argus, Salmson, Renault, Beardmore and the Russian made engine (RBV-Z or letters to that effect). Also a decent representation of the Colt and Madsen machine guns used on these machines. Detail parts provided in the kit are pretty pitiful, in fact major portions of this kit are pretty pitiful. How about a resin kit of the Sikorsky S-XVI. There is a recent publication from Russia on this aircraft with excellent photos and drawings (text is all Russian though). Obscure ? Well sure, just a thought. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:18:24 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: WW1 Modelers Subject: Latest from Rosemont Message-ID: <199604301023.KAA03247@cso.com> Well, we already know of some of the things coming out from Rosemont. Let me just reiterate, and add. Nieuport 11/16 (superficially, the removal of the headrest will constitute an 11 versus a 16 - but be aware that there were 11's with headrests, and 16's without, so check your references) Reissue of the Drachen Reissue of the Wing Blanks New product called Cheap Seats (basically, they've taken their resin seats from various kits and put six in a package: these seats do *not* have molded in belts) That's it. Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "Conscious is when you are aware of something, Conscience is when you wish you weren't." - Julia Adler -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:47:33 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: ideas Message-ID: >David replied in part: > >>2. An accurate Albatros DI/DII >> >>4. And most overlooked- the RAF RE8 and the Bristol F2B. The Airfix kits >>need to be replaced! > And Scott Head replied: >I'll second these two! And I'll add that I'd be interested in anything with >two wings that floats. A nice Bristol M1C would be nice too, I don't know >if there are any decent ones out there. > A Czech resin of the Bristol monoplane has already been done (back in about 1985) and Pegasus used it for the basis for one of their early kits. I imagine that the Czech resin should be available via Aviation USK. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 11:37:33 EDT From: Brian Nicklas To: Subject: Roseparts ideas Message-ID: <199604301536.LAA01164@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Unless I've overlooked one as already available, how about a 1/72 Fokker D.VII (OAW) nose? I wouldn't mind seeing some German float types to use the new Pegasus decal on either... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:42:26 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Austrian books Message-ID: <199604301147.LAA04530@cso.com> On 30 Apr 96 at 11:22, Charles Hart typed diligantly: > Sonderheft 22, Hansa-Brandenburg D-I, published in 1995. > Similar in format to Sonderheft 20. Photos published > inside the cover, drawings inside illustrating many markings this machine > wore, no color. Text all auf deutsch. Price 60 Austrian schillings (about > US$6.00 at today's exchange rate). Rob, or whomever's going to Austria: could you look for this one for me? I just called Articles of War, and they don't carry the OFH Nachrichten books anymore - which is a shame. If not, I guess I'll have to look into getting it direct - even though for some reason it scares the bejeebies out of me. Ah, life is like that. Matt -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner O- WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Loreena McKennitt; Jewel; suddenly, tammy!; jehova waitresses Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are mine, mine, mine! "You can fight a skunk and win, but who wants to!" - Anonymous -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 112 *********************