WWI Digest 101 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Paper airplanes? by The Flying Wrench 2) Re: Availability of Strutz (?) by Shane Weier 3) Re: Dutch DVII colors by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 4) The First Warplanes Magazine. by Ray Boorman 5) Re: Paper airplanes? by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 6) Re: Paper airplanes? by hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) 7) Re: Availability of Strutz (?) by Robert Woodbury 8) Re: Where are we all? by jalcober@mindspring.com (Jose Alcober) 9) Re: Availability of Strutz (?) by modlctzn@pacificrim.net (Mike Franklin) 10) Re: Where are we all? by jalcober@mindspring.com (Jose Alcober) 11) Re: The First Warplanes Magazine. by djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) 12) Re: Where are we all? by cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) 13) Re: Dutch DVII colors by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 14) Re: Where are we all? by "Matt Bittner" 15) Re[2]: Paper airplanes? by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 16) Re: Where are we all? by cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) 17) Gotha and Fokker kits f/s (fwd) by aew (Allan Wright) 18) 109 dis-ease (was RE: Where are we all?) by stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu 19) Re: Paper airplanes? by twhitley@mn.uswest.net (Tim Whitley) 20) Re: 109 dis-ease (was RE: Where are we all?) by "Matt Bittner" 21) Re: Paper airplanes? by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: 109 dis-ease (was RE: Where are we all?) by Erik Pilawskii 23) Re: 109 disease by SMHead 24) Re: 109 dis-ease (was RE: Where are we all?) by aew (Allan Wright) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:00:45 -0800 From: The Flying Wrench To: wwi Subject: Paper airplanes? Message-ID: <199604182200.OAA18650@anchor> The Wrench sez: Sometime ago I purchased a 1/24 scale J3 'Cub' from Paper Models International (PMI). The 'Cub' turned out to be a nice, light-weight, representative minature complete with interior and exposed engine. Recently I sent off for PMI's Taylorcraft and with my order I recieved their 1995 catalog. It has many interesting models from various manufactures (printers?). I have built/assembled several paper models in the past and found them to a refreshing change of pace from their plastic brethren. Somehow, it never ceases to amaze me how a few sheets of flat paper can be turned into a three dimensonal minature. Some of the nicer features about paper modeling is that there is no painting required, although it is an option if desired. Another delightful point is the price, most kits generally range from $3 to $7. Finally, you can copy them and produce an entire squadron from one kit. Personally, I don't do this, but sometimes I will make a copy in case I ruin the first attempt. If you think this is in the same line as paper dolls, I urge you to try one. I find plastic models are much easier to build well than their paper cousins. Paper is not a difficult medium to construct in, it is however very difficult to produce a well turned example in paper. This will be readily apparent after you build your first kit and then compare it to the photographs of the completed model on the instruction page. Some of the other kits offered by PMI are: Curtiss JN4D Jenny - 1:24 scale $7.95 Sopwith Camel - 1:20 scale $20.00 Fokker DRI (What Else after a Camel) - 1:20 $20.00 Fokker Eindecker - 1:50 $6.00 Rumpler Taube - 1:50 $6.00 Hindenburg - 1:500 $7.95 (Silverized paper) USS Macon - 1:350 $7.95 (Silverized paper) Spitfire - 1:20 $8.95 There are many many othe kits avaiable including buildings, autos, ships, armor, balloons, and even a pressurized, nuclear powerplant! Note prices vary as PMI obtains many of their models from different sources, some of which are located overseas. Fiddler's Green is another source for 'card' models. These folks make 1:72 WWI models as well as WWII examples. The old standbys of course are the first releases: DVII, Camel, Pfalz DIII, and the never-to-be-forgotten, ubiquitous - DRI. They make 20 or so examples. These are reproduced on heavy, colored, card stock the size of a large postcard. In fact they can be mailed as a postcard! If you've ever had a yen for origami, or you want really light-weight models for that cheap, Souder book case you bought to store your the fine examples of your handiwork - than paper might just be for you! If your interested, here's a couple of ideas: Paper Models International 9910 SW Bonnie Brae Drive Beaverton Oregon 97008-6045 Fiddlers Green 1960 W. Ray Road #1-C2 Chandler Arizona 85224 For a free sample look up: http://users.aol.com/pkaeronaut/pkapmdls.htm CONTACT! - CHOCKS AWAY! - I'm outta here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:48:19 +1100 From: Shane Weier To: mcclure@skynet.litc.lockheed.com Subject: Re: Availability of Strutz (?) Message-ID: <3176B8A3.107@qld.mim.com.au> mcclure@skynet.litc.lockheed.com wrote: > > In the WW1 modeling group, I have references to a company/product > called STRUTZ. This is appearantly an airfoil shaped plastic stock > that is used for struts and landing gear. Who in the US carries > this product and at what price? > > I'm sorry that I can neither give you a US stockist, nor a price, but I CAN give you an address for the manufacturers who *may* be able to answer your question: Skybirds 86 Orchard House Chetnole Sherborne Dorset DT9 6PE England Skybirds also make a line of nice WW1 kits which are quite high quality and cover some desirable and infrequently kitted subjects. Incidentally, In reply to Cookie Sewells reply, Contrail is no longer manufacturer of their plastic strut stock, the owner havin taken well deserved retirement. You can still get it though, from Aeroclub, who have (I believe) bought the rights to the product. ..and Burl is quite right. Strutz IS brass - which makes it a little more difficult to work but extremely helpfull where strength is an issue. Regards Shane Weier sdw@qld.mim.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:58:44 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Dutch DVII colors Message-ID: <199604182258.AA11316@ednet1.orednet.org> > >I'm getting ready to build a postwar Fokker DVII using the Blue Rider >decals. I've run into >a problem concerning the aircraft color. Just about everything that I've >seen lists the color >as dark green. There is a restored DVII in the Netherlands that is painted >in dark green and >that's what the Blue Rider instructions call for. Now to confuse things, >in the Windsock >article on "International Fokkers", May/June 1995, repeated reference is >made to Dutch >Fokkers being brown? It's impossible to tell anything from the photographs. >What does anybody think? > Dunno, I'll check some of my references this eve and see it I've anything else on this one although, unless somebody has some fabric samples from old Dutch Fokkers stashed away someplace, it may be one of those unanswerable questions (in which case, paint it whatever color ya' like and who's to say yer wrong!) Any possibility this is the old PC 10 controversy all over again? Anyone know if the Dutch bought aeroplane dopes from the UK in the applicable time period? If they -were- buying British dopes, PC 10 would be a nice resolution to the question. (and given that the British naval blockade must have pretty much shut down the Dutch paint industry during 1914-1918, especially that portion of the industry capable of producing 'modern' aeroplane dopes, it would seem not out of the realm of possibility that they would be buying specialized products like dopes from foreign sources for at least some while after the end of the war.) Cheers, Bill -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - - Cave ab homine unius libri! - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:29:51 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: wwi Subject: The First Warplanes Magazine. Message-ID: <3176D06F.1F37@lynx.bc.ca> I was looking at FSM's Web page and notice something mentioning a new magazine on WW1 Aircraft "The First Warplanes". Does anyone know anything about this periodical. Is it like Windsock? Ray Boorman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 16:51:28 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re: Paper airplanes? Message-ID: <9603188298.AA829871523@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> the same line as paper dolls, I urge you to try one. I find plastic models are much easier to build well than their paper cousins. Paper is not a difficult medium to construct in, it is however very difficult to produce a well turned example in paper. This will be readily apparent after you build I picked up a book of those things at a warehouse bookstore and tried to build a simpler one first -- a HUGE B2 bomber. Its VERRRY hard! I couldn't figure it out and the glue wouldn't set etc etc (k'vetch k'vetch k'vetch). Now I should pull that book out and try again. The B2 is scattered in bits all over the basement about now. The book also had some interesting biplanes and stuff in there. The printing was very nice; a lot of weathering on some of the airplanes. ---Stephen Tontoni PS I think that I saw more copies of that book; if anyone is interested, I will buy it and we can arrange a swap. I think that the book was about US$8 or 10. not sure. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:35:32 -0700 From: hartc@spot.Colorado.EDU (Charles Hart) To: wwi Subject: Re: Paper airplanes? Message-ID: To continue a thread: >the same line as paper dolls, I urge you to try one. I find plastic models >are much easier to build well than their paper cousins. Paper is not a >difficult medium to construct in, it is however very difficult to produce a >well turned example in paper. This will be readily apparent after you build > > I picked up a book of those things at a warehouse bookstore > and tried to build a simpler one first -- a HUGE B2 bomber. > Its VERRRY hard! I couldn't figure it out and the glue > wouldn't set etc etc (k'vetch k'vetch k'vetch). > > Now I should pull that book out and try again. The B2 is > scattered in bits all over the basement about now. The book > also had some interesting biplanes and stuff in there. The > printing was very nice; a lot of weathering on some of the > airplanes. > > ---Stephen Tontoni > > PS I think that I saw more copies of that book; if anyone is > interested, I will buy it and we can arrange a swap. I think > that the book was about US$8 or 10. not sure. Well, I might be interested in such a book, what else is in it ? When you were building your B-2, what kind of glue were you using ? Years ago I tried to build a large paper model of a DC-6, the fuselage was over 24 inches long alone. I tried this with white glue, which was probably my problem and hated it. I've since considered how well this might work using something like Duco cement. This kind of glue has worked well on the White Wings paper gliders my son and I have built in the past. The cement doesn't cause the paper to distort the way that water based glues might. Charles hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:41:54 -0400 From: Robert Woodbury To: wwi Subject: Re: Availability of Strutz (?) Message-ID: <31778A12.5B14@per.dwr.csiro.au> > mcclure@skynet.litc.lockheed.com wrote: > > > > In the WW1 modeling group, I have references to a company/product > > called STRUTZ. This is appearantly an airfoil shaped plastic stock > > that is used for struts and landing gear. Who in the US carries > > this product and at what price? > > > > I seem to recall that a company in the US offered some airfoil shaped rod- Creations Unlimited if memory serves. They're the people who sell the flexi-file (which BTW is very good). Their address shold be in FSM. Good luck, Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:55:31 -0400 From: jalcober@mindspring.com (Jose Alcober) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: At 10:29 PM 4/17/96, Gregory Rydquist wrote: >Have bought much more than I built, but have completed the Hasegawa 1/6 >Fokker DrI, >and fully intend to finish their Camel. After building these, if I'm >going to spend >that kind of time, then I'm going to build the 7/8 Nieuport ultralight >replica so I >can fly the thing! (Seriously). > Gregory, if I may ask, how long did it take to build Hasegawa Fokker? I have daydreamed about it, but it seems pretty intimidating. Also, if 1/48 is the "Scale of Kings" would it be safe to venture that 1/6 is the "Imperial Scale"? Thanks and Welcome! Jose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:43:11 -0700 From: modlctzn@pacificrim.net (Mike Franklin) To: wwi Subject: Re: Availability of Strutz (?) Message-ID: <199604190043.RAA00381@olympic.pacificrim.net> Strutz is carried in stock and is avasilable by mail from: Burnaby Hobbies 5209 Rumble Street Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5J 2B7 Phone (604)437-8217 Fax (604)437-8605 I don't know the price, but an enquiry would reveal all. Burnaby Hobbies is owned and run by John Tarvin, whom some of you may remember as the maker of the Airframe line of vacuform kits. Not bad for their time, and the Rumpler Taube and Short 184 in 1/72 scale are still the best examples of those subjects. With the exchange rate for Canadian Dollars what it is, Buying in Canada can be a wise move. Later, Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:04:44 -0400 From: jalcober@mindspring.com (Jose Alcober) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: Where am I? Hi,im Jose Alcober in the Olympic City (Atlanta), and I model 1/48 scale German WWI aircraft. I also produce color profiles of same on the Mac (I am a graphic designer/illustrator). In the past I built WWII Japanese+German aircraft and 1/700 IJN ships. For the record, I am in AWE of what I see being produced by the 1/72 scale modelers. My 1/48 scale aircraft don't look that good. It almost makes me want to give up modeling and only illustrate profiles. 1/72 scale scares me, I have nightmares of ending up like some persian rug weaver at 32. Blind. One final questions if I may? What are these references to the "dreaded 109", am I missing something? Thanks Jose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:42:39 -0500 From: djones@iex.com (Douglas R. Jones) To: wwi Subject: Re: The First Warplanes Magazine. Message-ID: <9604190137.AA13469@deimos.tx.iex.com> >I was looking at FSM's Web page and notice something mentioning a new >magazine on WW1 Aircraft "The First Warplanes". Does anyone know >anything about this periodical. Is it like Windsock? I am afraid it has ceased to exist in it's original format. It was put out by Frank Ryders group and ceased when he was killed. There are a couple of newspaper like productions that are trying to take it's place. But I am afraid they are not of the same quality! Doug -------------------------------------------------- 'I am a traveler of | Douglas R. Jones both Time and Space' | IEX Corporation Led Zeppelin | (214)301-1307 | djones@iex.com -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 22:35:56 EDT From: cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604190235.WAA11968@conted.swann.gatech.edu> Hey Joe, According to Webster's, the "dreaded 109" is a reference to a disease that afflicts many in the modeling community--yours truly included--centering around a certain non-WWI aeronautical product of a well-known German aero company. It seems this 109 has a magnetic-like attraction that affects even model manufacturers, obliging them to produce dozens of models in every scale covering every single last variant of the creature. In the meantime, the world awaits just one good plastic model of the Albatros D.III . . . Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 00:22:50 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: Dutch DVII colors Message-ID: <199604190722.AA28684@ednet1.orednet.org> > >I'm getting ready to build a postwar Fokker DVII using the Blue Rider >decals. I've run into >a problem concerning the aircraft color. Just about everything that I've >seen lists the color >as dark green. There is a restored DVII in the Netherlands that is painted >in dark green and >that's what the Blue Rider instructions call for. Now to confuse things, >in the Windsock >article on "International Fokkers", May/June 1995, repeated reference is >made to Dutch >Fokkers being brown? It's impossible to tell anything from the photographs. >What does anybody think? > -following up as promised- Sorry, can't find anything definitive in my references. The old profile publication on the Dutch Fokkers has 'em in a decided dark forest green shade but no sources or references are cited for this at all so I don't think this carries much weight. Nothing else I've got gives anything particularly convincing on the Dutch D.VII's. I suspect you are out on your own limb on this 'un. Do it in a shade you find attractive and, if someone questions you, whip out whatever reference source best matches your paint scheme. Whoops, just checked one other source. The Dutch National Air Museum at Schipol Airport, Amsterdam apparently has a non-original but 'restored to original condition' Fokker D.VIIa in their collection. You might check with them or with a Dutch modeler or aeroplane enthusiast and see if you can get some information on the colors or, perhaps, even some color photos. Even if the Fokker in the museum isn't 100% correct, I suspect it's the best reference currently available. Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org -or- aw177@Freenet.Carleton.ca - - Cave ab homine unius libri! - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 07:27:51 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604190732.HAA21417@cso.com> On 18 Apr 96 at 22:35, Carlos Valdes typed diligantly: > Hey Joe, > According to Webster's, the "dreaded 109" is a reference to a > disease that afflicts many in the modeling community--yours truly > included--centering around a certain non-WWI aeronautical product of a > well-known German aero company. It seems this 109 has a magnetic-like > attraction that affects even model manufacturers, obliging them to > produce dozens of models in every scale covering every single last > variant of the creature. In the meantime, the world awaits just one good > plastic model of the Albatros D.III . . . And as your penance, you will correct and convert the Glencoe OEF D.III, into a D.IV... hee hee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 07:51:48 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: Re[2]: Paper airplanes? Message-ID: <9603198299.AA829925524@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> More about this paper like thread: Well, I might be interested in such a book, what else is in it ? I recall that there were a couple of WWII aircraft in there Bf109, Zeros, I think a Hurricane. Then there were a couple of 'tweeners -- either a Gloster Gladiator or Bristol Bulldog. Hmmm maybe a Fury or Demon. Can't remember. Hey; at lunch today I'll run down there and pick it up. When you were building your B-2, what kind of glue were you using ? Years ago I tried to build a large paper model of a DC-6, the fuselage was over 24 inches long alone. I tried this with white glue, whi Ex-woodworker that I am, of course I saw paper and reached for the carpenter's glue. Never said that I knew how to build the damn things! I think that I will try again some time with Duco or some other adhesive. I have a lot of time on my hands right now since I completed all my other kits. Yeah right; and maybe later monkeys will fly out of my butt!! -----Stephen Tontoni (I also have a little kit of an albotross DV that I picked up in Canada. Its all wood with the pieces stamped out of it. I haven't built it yet, but it looks pretty cool. It will be almost solid!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 14:02:28 EDT From: cv3@conted.swann.gatech.edu (Carlos Valdes) To: wwi Subject: Re: Where are we all? Message-ID: <199604191802.OAA13371@conted.swann.gatech.edu> > > On 18 Apr 96 at 22:35, Carlos Valdes typed diligantly: > > > Hey Joe, > > According to Webster's, the "dreaded 109" is a reference to a > > disease that afflicts many in the modeling community--yours truly > > included--centering around a certain non-WWI aeronautical product of a > > well-known German aero company. It seems this 109 has a magnetic-like > > attraction that affects even model manufacturers, obliging them to > > produce dozens of models in every scale covering every single last > > variant of the creature. In the meantime, the world awaits just one good > > plastic model of the Albatros D.III . . . > > And as your penance, you will correct and convert the Glencoe OEF > D.III, into a D.IV... hee hee > No, no, please: not that! Couldn't I just scrathbuild it? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:18:34 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Gotha and Fokker kits f/s (fwd) Message-ID: <199604191818.OAA08661@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Forwarded message: >From drcooley@cacd.rockwell.com Fri Apr 19 11:42:22 1996 Message-Id: <9604191543.AA03512@global3> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 10:43:34 -0500 From: DUANE R COOLEY Organization: rockwell international cacd X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2 (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: aew@unh.edu Subject: Gotha and Fokker kits f/s Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 207 I have an Aurora q/48 scale Gotha and Revell Fokker triplane for sale. Both complete, the GOtha is still sealed. Pass this to you friends and have them get with me at:drcooley@cacd.rockwell.com Duane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 11:28:34 PST From: stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu To: wwi Subject: 109 dis-ease (was RE: Where are we all?) Message-ID: <9603198299.AA829938663@SCCCGATE.seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu> > included--centering around a certain non-WWI aeronautical product of a > > well-known German aero company. It seems this 109 has a magnetic-like > > attraction that affects even model manufacturers, obliging them to > > produce dozens of models in every scale covering every single last > > variant of the creature. In the meantime, the world awaits just one good Gives me an idea; I wonder if its been done.... maybe for one of those "flights of fancy" categories at the shows I should bring in a Bf109 biplane. (Hell, they really did it with the Hurricane and the upper wing was a huge gas tank!) I could cobble together two 109 kits to do it. I would add fixed landing gear and lots of rigging of course. This could be a beautiful thing. I would probably use Spanish Civil War markings --- Legion Condor. Plus what armament to use? I guess 2 7.9mm's firing through the propellor arc ought to be enough. Just like Bill Gates said that 64K ought to be enough for anyone. Anybody got a kit they want to donate to the cause? Maybe we all could do one and then it would be a movement. ----Stephen Tontoni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:54:23 -0600 From: twhitley@mn.uswest.net (Tim Whitley) To: wwi Subject: Re: Paper airplanes? Message-ID: >the same line as paper dolls, I urge you to try one. I find plastic models >are much easier to build well than their paper cousins. Paper is not a >difficult medium to construct in, it is however very difficult to produce a >well turned example in paper. This will be readily apparent after you build > > I picked up a book of those things at a warehouse bookstore > and tried to build a simpler one first -- a HUGE B2 bomber. > Its VERRRY hard! I couldn't figure it out and the glue > wouldn't set etc etc (k'vetch k'vetch k'vetch). All, I've built several paper models of buildings and planes and have several more in the queue. I started out using Duco-like cement with decent results but have settled on "Tacky Glue", a more viscous form of white glue. It dries quickly, holds strong, and has water as solvent. It can be found in the arts and crafts section of department stores and in arts and crafts stores themselves. About the "Big Book of Paper Historical Aircraft", I haven't undertaken the B-2 but started the U-2 and was distressed that there seems to be no bottom surface to the wings! It sits in pieces in my workroom, an object of my disgust. In any case, don't base your opinion of paper modeling on these monstrosities. They are much more difficult than they need to be. I do want to do build the B-52 out of this same book one day (wingspan over 2.5 feet), but I'll have to wait until I can afford the attendant psychotherapy. The Dr.I and Camel models (available from Paper Models Int'l--PMI) look quite nice, but I haven't braved them yet. Each has some 200 pieces, I believe. Muenchner Bastelbogen produced at least two WWI-era models, a Nieuport Delage 29 and an F.E. 2b, both very square and unconvincing, unsophisticated models. There may be more (better) models in this line. I bought these from a unique bookstore in Illinois which was closing them out. I didn't ask where they had gotten them. They are not in the PMI catalog, though a call to that business will answer any inquiry about this hobby. Paper plane modeling is done as it should be by the Flying Paper Scale--FPS--line. There are no WWI models in it that I know of, but the Spitfire, ME 109, Japanese Tony, Mustang, Hellcat, and FW 190 are quite nice. These models are printed on heavy, die-cut stock (no cutting!), and fly ("at scale speeds"!) at least once.... My latest craze is rigid airships--Zeppelins. I bought the USS Macon (27") and Hindenburg (19") models after scratch building a Zeppelin L-9 (15") out of some stiff paper and a Saran Wrap tube. Enough about paper for most of you, I'm sure. Still, I'd be glad to hear from anyone else out there doing paper modeling. Or, for that matter, metal modeling as I mentioned in my first post. I do 1/144th scale ("The scale of rogues") in 'white metal' for miniatures gaming, though I am sorely tempted to get back into plastic modeling--like I need another hobby! [I hope my wife doesn't read this!] Tim =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tim Whitley (( twhitley@mn.uswest.net St. Paul, MN )) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:46:33 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: 109 dis-ease (was RE: Where are we all?) Message-ID: <199604191350.NAA27201@cso.com> On 19 Apr 96 at 14:29, stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu typed diligantly: > Anybody got a kit they want to donate to the cause? Maybe we > all could do one and then it would be a movement. Yea, but what kind of movement? ;-) Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:00:03 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: wwi Subject: Re: Paper airplanes? Message-ID: <199604191404.OAA27391@cso.com> On 19 Apr 96 at 14:53, Tim Whitley typed diligantly: > Enough about paper for most of you, I'm sure. Still, I'd be glad to hear > from anyone else out there doing paper modeling. Or, for that matter, > metal modeling as I mentioned in my first post. I do 1/144th scale ("The > scale of rogues") in 'white metal' for miniatures gaming, though I am > sorely tempted to get back into plastic modeling--like I need another > hobby! [I hope my wife doesn't read this!] Or, the scale for those with little eye balls - and here I thought us 1/72nd types were shifty...get it? Gads, what do you rig them with, or is Frisky hairless? Or, should that be "whisker less"? Hee. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:12:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Erik Pilawskii To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 109 dis-ease (was RE: Where are we all?) Message-ID: > On 19 Apr 96 at 14:29, stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu typed diligantly: > > > Anybody got a kit they want to donate to the cause? Maybe we > > all could do one and then it would be a movement. > > Yea, but what kind of movement? ;-) Perhaps that would be a 'bowel'-type.... ;^) Erik :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "I have not yet, Sir, had the pleasure of your introduction-- and I suspect that I shall not have, still, after we have met...." A.T.Magnuson, M.P. .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:15:44 -0400 From: SMHead To: wwi Subject: Re: 109 disease Message-ID: <9604191412.aa15912@mail.iapc.net> > Gives me an idea; I wonder if its been done.... maybe for > one of those "flights of fancy" categories at the shows I > should bring in a Bf109 biplane. (Hell, they really did it > with the Hurricane and the upper wing was a huge gas tank!) > I could cobble together two 109 kits to do it. I would add > fixed landing gear and lots of rigging of course. This > could be a beautiful thing. I would probably use Spanish > Civil War markings --- Legion Condor. Plus what armament to > use? I guess 2 7.9mm's firing through the propellor arc > ought to be enough. Just like Bill Gates said that 64K ought > to be enough for anyone. > > Anybody got a kit they want to donate to the cause? Maybe we > all could do one and then it would be a movement. > > ----Stephen Tontoni Stephen- I'll do one! That sounds like a great gag to pull on what our club calls the "Clique de Messerskeet". Wow, just imagine, a Bipe09! Scott Head ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 15:17:37 -0400 (EDT) From: aew (Allan Wright) To: wwi Subject: Re: 109 dis-ease (was RE: Where are we all?) Message-ID: <199604191917.PAA09335@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > > On 19 Apr 96 at 14:29, stonto@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu typed diligantly: > > > Anybody got a kit they want to donate to the cause? Maybe we > > > all could do one and then it would be a movement. > > > > Yea, but what kind of movement? ;-) > > Perhaps that would be a 'bowel'-type.... ;^) Ghads! I REALLY thought it didn't need to be said?!? (But I did get a second chuckle from this sick joke) -Al ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 101 *********************