WWI Digest 548 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: WWI Datafiles, books, kits for sale. by smodels@ne.infi.net 2) Re: Italian resin by "Joseph Gentile" 3) Re: WWI Datafiles, books, kits for sale. by "Leonard Endy" 4) Oops by "Leonard Endy" 5) Re: WWI Datafiles, books, kits for sale. by smodels@ne.infi.net 6) Re: Oops by smodels@ne.infi.net 7) Re: Review of Aeroclub 1/48 R.E.8 by Alberto Rada 8) Re: Italian resin by Alberto Rada 9) Re: Italian resin by Carlos Valdes 10) Re: Italian resin by Kevin Wenker 11) 1/48 Caproni by Bill Ciciora <73717.2274@CompuServe.COM> 12) Re: Figures by Mick Fauchon 13) Re: 1/48 Caproni by Bill Bacon 14) Re: Italian resin by vprice@world.net (Vincent Price) 15) Vickers Vimy Info by "Leonard Endy" 16) Re: Mick's Scale Wars Debate messages by Geoff Smith 17) Re: Vickers Vimy Info by Bill Bacon 18) Latest OtF by mbittner@juno.com 19) Re: Italian resin (and Italian kits) by Sandy Adam 20) Re: Review of Aeroclub 1/48 R.E.8 by Sandy Adam 21) Re: 1/72 RE-8? by Sandy Adam 22) Re: Vickers Vimy Info by Geoff Smith 23) Nieuport Jones (was Vickers Vimy Info) by Michelle and Rory Goodwin 24) Re: Vickers Vimy Info by Tom Werner Hansen 25) Resin casting for novices. by Tom Werner Hansen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 18:28:16 +0000 From: smodels@ne.infi.net To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI Datafiles, books, kits for sale. Message-ID: <337DF8C0.22DC@ne.infi.net> Here is some of what is left: (Note on books: these items are well used and loved books in "used," not "mint" condition. Many are rare with much useful information. Some of these I have had for decades. If you get something and have a problem with it, simply return it for a refund. Or simply call 502 737-4437 and I'll describe it for you.) Windsock Datafiles (the rest are sold out, being kept for sentimental reasons) $15: #5 Fokker Triplane , 7 Pfalz D.III, 8 Spad 7C.1, 10 SE.5a, 15 Fokker D.III, 22 Sopwith Triplane, 25 Fokker D.VIII, 33 Junkers D.I, 36 Nieuport 28, 39 Junkers J.I, 41 Pfalz D.XII, 43 Halberstadt Cl.IV, 48 Airco DH.2, 51 AEG G.IV. Windsock Datafiles $18ea: 21 Pfalz D.IIIa, 26 Sopwith Camel, 32 Spad 13.C1. Windsock Specials: RAF SE.5a $25, Sopwith Pup $22, Fokker Dr.I $20, WWI Warplanes I $24, WWI Warplanes II $24, James McCudden VC $22. Windsock International $15ea: Vol 5, #1, 2. Vol 6, #1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Vol 7, #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Vol 8, #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Vol 9, #1, 2, 4, 5. Vol 10, #1, 2. Vol 11, #2, 3. Windsock International $10ea: Vol 9, #3, 6. Vol 10, #3, 4, 5, 6. Vol 11, #1, 4, 5, 6 Harleyford books: sold out. Squadron/Signal Books $5ea: Sopwith Fighters in Action, Albatros Fighters in Action. Books: French Warships of WWI. By Jean Labayle Couhat, Ian Allen, 1974. Rare, $20. Pictorial History of the German Air Service. By Alex Imrie, Henry Regnery Co., 1973. $20, no dj. Air Aces of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. O'Connor, Camplin Fighter Museum Press, 1986. $25, no dj. Sondermarkierungen der k.u.k. Jagdflugzeuge 1916-18. Schroeder and Totschinger, OFH, 1986. Softcover book full of b&W profiles of A-H fighters. German Text. $10. Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WWI. Reprint, new condition with dust jacket. A ton of info for only $10. Color Profiles of World War I Combat Planes, 1974. Articles and color art on a number of common and unusual WWI aircraft. $30. Nieuport Macchi 11 and 17. Maurizio Longoni, Intergest, 1976. Italian softback monograph on Nieuports in Italian service. $10. Vintage Warbirds, Arms and Amour Press: #1, Royal Flying Corps in WWI. $8. #2, German Air Service in WWI. $8. #3, The Sopwith Fighters. $8. Profile number 13, The Sopwith Pup. $5. WWI in Plastic, Brad Hansen. $5. Taube, Dove of War. HAA, 1978. $15. Americal/Gryphon Decals, 1/72: #51 Gotha Bombers, $7. #52 Gotha Bombers, $7. #94 Austro-Hungarian Fliks 31-41, $7. Americal/Gryphon Decals, 1/48: #71 Austro-Hungarian Albatros, $7. #51 Gotha Bombers, $7.#93 Austro-Hungarian Fliks 1-30, $7. #95 Austro-Hungarian Fliks 31-41, Albatros, $7. #96 Austro-Hungarian Fliks 31-41, $7. #97, 98, 99, 100 Gotha Bombers, $7each. Shipping and handling at cost. Sierra Scale Models 910 Indian Hills Dr. Elizabethtown, Kentucky 42701 USA. Phone: 502 737-4437 email: smodels@ekx.infi.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 17:47:08 -0500 From: "Joseph Gentile" To: Subject: Re: Italian resin Message-ID: <199705172256.RAA25210@Walden.MO.NET> ---------- > From: Carlos Valdes > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Italian resin > Date: Saturday, May 17, 1997 3:37 PM > > Guys, > I just got back from a model show in Alabama. As usual, the WWI entries > were few, with the Eduard D.V being the most popular in terms of numbers > entered (3, the DML D.VII being second with 2). Not much in the way of > rare WWI stuff among the vendors other than one box full of vacs and one > Merlin Junkers J.I, which I passed up, although I did pick up a print > depicting the Baron's last victory signed by the victim, Camel pilot > "Tommy" Lewis. > Here's the interesting part: there was a vendor at the show selling > imported Italian resin kits and conversion items--all WWII and quite > beautifully done. While talking with him I asked if any WWI stuff might > be coming out of Italy and learned that the same manufacturer was > working on a 1/48 Caproni triplane bomber, a complete kit with brass > struts pre-cut to the right size; it will sell for $75 and presumably be > available later this year. I mentionmed the list to him, and as the > production runs are quite small, he would like to know if there is any > interest out these among list members in this kit so that he can place > an appropriate (and encouraging?) order with the manufacturer. I'll pass > on your responses to him, as soon as he gets his e-mail set up. > Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 23:27:39 GMT From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI Datafiles, books, kits for sale. Message-ID: <337e3cfa.16634333@legend.firstsaga.com> On Sat, 17 May 1997 12:52:53 -0400, you wrote: >Thanks to all who responded to our Spring Sale. I've decided to extend it >until ? for anyone who may have missed it or needs to stock up! All Sierra >kits are 20% off until we are out of business (at least concerning WWI >kits) sometime this Summer. After that the kits will be unavailable as I >will probably be getting rid of all the molds as they are too heavy to move. Hi Bob, I would like to receive a copy of your list when it's complete. Today I saw one of your w.29's at a local contest, it was a beauty! Never having built a vac before maybe you could recommend one to start with, preferably 1/48 and of a WWI subject. Thanks Len Endy lfendy@firstsaga.com "Planes, Trains and...that's all that matters." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 23:29:51 GMT From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: Oops Message-ID: <337f3f14.17172617@legend.firstsaga.com> Sorry, that reply to Bob wasn't meant for the list. Gotta' remember to change them addresses when replying......... Len Endy lfendy@firstsaga.com "Planes, Trains and...that's all that matters." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 20:07:56 +0000 From: smodels@ne.infi.net To: wwi Subject: Re: WWI Datafiles, books, kits for sale. Message-ID: <337E101C.2146@ne.infi.net> Leonard Endy wrote: > I would like to receive a copy of your list when it's complete. Today I > saw one of your w.29's at a local contest, it was a beauty! Never having > built a vac before maybe you could recommend one to start with, preferably > 1/48 and of a WWI subject. Well, let's see... I once built one of my Aviatik Berg D.Is up in about four days. The Roland C.II and D.II are easy to build...no cabane struts to worry about. The Bristol Scout and Fokker D.II are simple aircraft. If you want a larger German aircraft the Albatros C.V has a fully enclosed engine and an eight-pipe exhaust, unusual. Here is some of what is left: (Note on books: these items are well used and loved books in "used," not "mint" condition. Many are rare with much useful information. Some of these I have had for decades. If you get something and have a problem with it, simply return it for a refund. Or simply call 502 737-4437 and I'll describe it for you.) Windsock Datafiles (the rest are sold out, being kept for sentimental reasons) $15: # 7 Pfalz D.III, 8 Spad 7C.1, 10 SE.5a, 15 Fokker D.III, 22 Sopwith Triplane, 25 Fokker D.VIII, 33 Junkers D.I, 36 Nieuport 28, 39 Junkers J.I, 41 Pfalz D.XII, 43 Halberstadt Cl.IV, 48 Airco DH.2, 51 AEG G.IV. Windsock Datafiles $18ea: 21 Pfalz D.IIIa, 26 Sopwith Camel, 32 Spad 13.C1. Windsock Specials: RAF SE.5a $25, Sopwith Pup $22, Fokker Dr.I $20, WWI Warplanes I $24, WWI Warplanes II $24, James McCudden VC $22. Windsock International $15ea: Vol 5, #1, 2. Vol 6, #1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Vol 7, #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Vol 8, #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Vol 9, #1, 2, 4, 5. Vol 10, #1, 2. Vol 11, #2, 3. Windsock International $10ea: Vol 9, #3, 6. Vol 10, #3, 4, 5, 6. Vol 11, #1, 4, 5, 6 Harleyford books: sold out. Squadron/Signal Books $5ea: Sopwith Fighters in Action, Albatros Fighters in Action. Books: French Warships of WWI. By Jean Labayle Couhat, Ian Allen, 1974. Rare, $20. Pictorial History of the German Air Service. By Alex Imrie, Henry Regnery Co., 1973. $sold, no dj. Air Aces of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. O'Connor, Camplin Fighter Museum Press, 1986. $25, no dj. Sondermarkierungen der k.u.k. Jagdflugzeuge 1916-18. Schroeder and Totschinger, OFH, 1986. Softcover book full of b&W profiles of A-H fighters. German Text. $10. Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WWI. Reprint, new condition with dust jacket. A ton of info for only $10. Color Profiles of World War I Combat Planes, 1974. Articles and color art on a number of common and unusual WWI aircraft. $30. Nieuport Macchi 11 and 17. Maurizio Longoni, Intergest, 1976. Italian softback monograph on Nieuports in Italian service. $10. Vintage Warbirds, Arms and Amour Press: #1, Royal Flying Corps in WWI. $8. #2, German Air Service in WWI. $8. #3, The Sopwith Fighters. $8. Profile number 13, The Sopwith Pup. $5. WWI in Plastic, Brad Hansen. $5. Taube, Dove of War. HAA, 1978. $15. Americal/Gryphon Decals, 1/72: #51 Gotha Bombers, $7. #52 Gotha Bombers, $7. #94 Austro-Hungarian Fliks 31-41, $7. Americal/Gryphon Decals, 1/48: #71 Austro-Hungarian Albatros, $7. #51 Gotha Bombers, $7.#93 Austro-Hungarian Fliks 1-30, $7. #95 Austro-Hungarian Fliks 31-41, Albatros, $7. #96 Austro-Hungarian Fliks 31-41, $7. #97, 98, 99, 100 Gotha Bombers, $7each. Shipping and handling at cost. Sierra Scale Models 910 Indian Hills Dr. Elizabethtown, Kentucky 42701 USA. Phone: 502 737-4437 email: smodels@ekx.infi.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 20:10:37 +0000 From: smodels@ne.infi.net To: wwi Subject: Re: Oops Message-ID: <337E10BD.3BA5@ne.infi.net> Leonard Endy wrote: > > Sorry, that reply to Bob wasn't meant for the list. Gotta' remember to > change them addresses when replying......... > > Len Endy > lfendy@firstsaga.com > "Planes, Trains and...that's all that matters." I also goofed up and sent my reply to the list! Sorry. Bob Sierra ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 21:27:28 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Review of Aeroclub 1/48 R.E.8 Message-ID: <199705180127.VAA18415@fw.true.net> Hi Randy, I don't know, have a look at Windsock International Vol. 12 No. 6 the review by Alberto Casirati. I agree that there are several things missing and other like the Instrument Panel could be done in a more updated Technique, ala Eduard. But the kit all in all is quite good, and all the main parts are on range and quite well done. On the price, well lets compare it with Waldo, where you are not getting a third of what you are on this kit. With the exodus we are having on WW1 Manufacturers, this is one of the last I would like to see quitting. My 1 peseta worth SALUDOS ALBERTO At 06:07 PM 16-05-97 -0400, you wrote: >Just picked up the current Scale Aviation Modeller Int'l issue (vol 3 no 4, the >latest available in the states, at least). In the reviews is coverage of the >new Aeroclub R.E.8 kit in 1/48. The reviewer sums it up with, "Good, but could >do better." > >Randy >-- >=============================================================================== >Randy J. Ray -- U S WEST Technologies IAD/CSS/DPDS Phone: (303)595-2869 > Denver, CO rjray@uswest.com >"It's not denial. I'm just very selective about the reality I accept." --Calvin > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 21:50:31 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Re: Italian resin Message-ID: <199705180150.VAA18821@fw.true.net> Hi Carlos You can certainly count me on one, this is a lovely plane, by the way I have the Caproni book by Apostolo and Abate, I don't know how exact they are, but it has a lot of drawings , photos and Squadriglie insignias etc. drawings of all the cockpit part etc. a real must if you do the plane. If you don't have it what we can do is I'll send you the book when you do the kit ( about 2510 ) unless you smuggle it in front of your Queuing list Of course this is valid to anyone else in the list SALUDOS ALBERTO At 04:37 PM 17-05-97 -0400, you wrote: >Guys, > I just got back from a model show in Alabama. As usual, the WWI entries >were few, with the Eduard D.V being the most popular in terms of numbers >entered (3, the DML D.VII being second with 2). Not much in the way of >rare WWI stuff among the vendors other than one box full of vacs and one >Merlin Junkers J.I, which I passed up, although I did pick up a print >depicting the Baron's last victory signed by the victim, Camel pilot >"Tommy" Lewis. > Here's the interesting part: there was a vendor at the show selling >imported Italian resin kits and conversion items--all WWII and quite >beautifully done. While talking with him I asked if any WWI stuff might >be coming out of Italy and learned that the same manufacturer was >working on a 1/48 Caproni triplane bomber, a complete kit with brass >struts pre-cut to the right size; it will sell for $75 and presumably be >available later this year. I mentionmed the list to him, and as the >production runs are quite small, he would like to know if there is any >interest out these among list members in this kit so that he can place >an appropriate (and encouraging?) order with the manufacturer. I'll pass >on your responses to him, as soon as he gets his e-mail set up. > Carlos > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:52:01 -0400 From: Carlos Valdes To: wwi Subject: Re: Italian resin Message-ID: <337E6ED1.3DCD@conted.gatech.edu> Alberto, Thanks for the offer--I'll keep it mind. there's no telling exactly when (or, perhaps, if) the Caproni will be available, but I'll pass on all the responses when the vendor, Bob Asbury, gets in touch with me. Carlos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:26:00 -0500 From: Kevin Wenker To: wwi Subject: Re: Italian resin Message-ID: <337E76C8.704@interaccess.com> Carlos Valdes wrote: > > Guys, > I just got back from a model show in Alabama. As usual, the WWI entries > were few, with the Eduard D.V being the most popular in terms of numbers > entered (3, the DML D.VII being second with 2). Not much in the way of > rare WWI stuff among the vendors other than one box full of vacs and one > Merlin Junkers J.I, which I passed up, although I did pick up a print > depicting the Baron's last victory signed by the victim, Camel pilot > "Tommy" Lewis. > Here's the interesting part: there was a vendor at the show selling > imported Italian resin kits and conversion items--all WWII and quite > beautifully done. While talking with him I asked if any WWI stuff might > be coming out of Italy and learned that the same manufacturer was > working on a 1/48 Caproni triplane bomber, a complete kit with brass > struts pre-cut to the right size; it will sell for $75 and presumably be > available later this year. I mentionmed the list to him, and as the > production runs are quite small, he would like to know if there is any > interest out these among list members in this kit so that he can place > an appropriate (and encouraging?) order with the manufacturer. I'll pass > on your responses to him, as soon as he gets his e-mail set up. > Carlos Carlos, Sign me up for one. Kevin W. ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 97 23:46:32 EDT From: Bill Ciciora <73717.2274@CompuServe.COM> To: Subject: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <970518034632_73717.2274_CHK46-1@CompuServe.COM> Even at that stiff price, I have always wanted to build a Caproni bomber in 1/48 scale. Put me down for one! Bill C. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:09:52 +1000 (EST) From: Mick Fauchon To: wwi Subject: Re: Figures Message-ID: David, On Sat, 17 May 1997 DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > Danke Schoern Bitte scho"n 80) Mick. > > -- -- Mick Fauchon | Internet: ulmjf@dewey.newcastle.edu.au Reference Section, Auchmuty Library | Ph (intl+61+49) 215861 University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA | Fax (intl+61+49) 215833 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM M M M Tasmanian Devil: "#@%!&^*%%...!#@!&**%^@@#$#-+*+*&##@...!!" M M M M Yosemite Sam : "Cut out that Army talk!..Yer in the Navy now!" M M M MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 23:45:12 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: 1/48 Caproni Message-ID: <337E8958.7DB7@netjava.net> Like Bill C., even if it hurts, put me down for one. Bill B. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:37:02 +1000 (EST) From: vprice@world.net (Vincent Price) To: wwi Subject: Re: Italian resin Message-ID: <199705180837.SAA10327@world.net> Carlos, love to have one..... > 1/48 Caproni triplane bomber, a complete kit with brass >struts pre-cut to the right size; it will sell for $75 and presumably be >available later this year. I mentionmed the list to him, and as the >production runs are quite small, he would like to know if there is any >interest out these among list members in this kit so that he can place >an appropriate (and encouraging?) order with the manufacturer. I'll pass >on your responses to him, as soon as he gets his e-mail set up. > Carlos > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- GroupWare Internet: vprice@sydney2.world.net Level 12, Phone: +61 3 9606 0607 469 La Trobe Street Fax: +61 3 9606 0604 Melbourne, Vic., 3000 Mobile: +61 041 534 2166 AUSTRALIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 10:50:05 GMT From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi Subject: Vickers Vimy Info Message-ID: <337ed99c.56738684@legend.firstsaga.com> While looking over the tables at a local contest yesterday I found a 1/72 scale Vickers Vimy. Never saw it before and really did not see much else so I bought it, $12.00. It appears to have been manufactured in Poland. No info is provided in any other language. I could not find any markings on the moldings that might shed some light on it's origins....anyone have any info on this kit? The molding doen't seem to bad, a little heavy with some flash present but it looks like it will build into a nice, but possibly inaccurate, model. As far as the show goes it was the Richmond, VA chapter IPMS open. Like Carlos' said about the 'bama show, very little WWI. Anyplane with rigged wings, regardless of scale, is lumped into one category. The WWI entries consisted of 3 1/72 scale and two 1/48 scale models. 1/72: ESCI Camel and ESCI DVII, both w/o markings, at least someone is interested in WWI. A 1/72 Eduard brass "origami" E.III that looked well done. 1/48 A Sierra Vac of the W.29 beautifully finished and a Lone Star Junkers J.1 also nicely finished. Lots of old 1/72 kits from Airfix, Revell, ESCi were available at cheap prices. A few old Aurora/KB offerings at high prices. I needed about two or three hundred dollars when I found a guy with old Data Files, Windsock Intl's and lots of the old profiles. Unfortunately...my daughter still is in college. I did p/u some AeroMaster Decals, 1/48 D.VII Pt 1 and 1/48 Pfalz D.III/A Pt. 2. They are nicely done and may be what I needed to get started on a couple of projects. I also found some old Vac kits from Formaplane and Scaleplane in 1/72. As I don't build vacs (yet, or at least not in that scale) I will add them to the Swap'n'Shop page sometime this week. Len Endy lfendy@firstsaga.com "Planes, Trains and...that's all that matters." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 07:54:06 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Mick's Scale Wars Debate messages Message-ID: <199705180754_MC2-16D7-495A@compuserve.com> >Probably the same guy who knows exactly how many angels really do fit on the head of a pin. Mike Muth< Mike, Going by what I've seen, he'd probably ask how many you want. (BG) Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 07:30:34 -0500 From: Bill Bacon To: wwi Subject: Re: Vickers Vimy Info Message-ID: <337EF66A.D20@netjava.net> Leonard Endy wrote: > > While looking over the tables at a local contest yesterday I found a 1/72 > scale Vickers Vimy. Never saw it before and really did not see much else so > I bought it, $12.00. It appears to have been manufactured in Poland. No > info is provided in any other language. I could not find any markings on > the moldings that might shed some light on it's origins....anyone have any > info on this kit? > > The molding doen't seem to bad, a little heavy with some flash present but > it looks like it will build into a nice, but possibly inaccurate, model. > > As far as the show goes it was the Richmond, VA chapter IPMS open. Like > Carlos' said about the 'bama show, very little WWI. Anyplane with rigged > wings, regardless of scale, is lumped into one category. > > The WWI entries consisted of 3 1/72 scale and two 1/48 scale models. > > 1/72: ESCI Camel and ESCI DVII, both w/o markings, at least someone is > interested in WWI. > > A 1/72 Eduard brass "origami" E.III that looked well done. > > 1/48 A Sierra Vac of the W.29 beautifully finished and a Lone Star Junkers > J.1 also nicely finished. > > Lots of old 1/72 kits from Airfix, Revell, ESCi were available at cheap > prices. A few old Aurora/KB offerings at high prices. I needed about two > or three hundred dollars when I found a guy with old Data Files, Windsock > Intl's and lots of the old profiles. Unfortunately...my daughter still is > in college. > > I did p/u some AeroMaster Decals, 1/48 D.VII Pt 1 and 1/48 Pfalz D.III/A > Pt. 2. They are nicely done and may be what I needed to get started on a > couple of projects. > > I also found some old Vac kits from Formaplane and Scaleplane in 1/72. As I > don't build vacs (yet, or at least not in that scale) I will add them to > the Swap'n'Shop page sometime this week. > > Len Endy > lfendy@firstsaga.com > "Planes, Trains and...that's all that matters." Len, Years ago Frog did a Vimy in a pioneers set containing thr Southern Cross, The Vickers Vimy (Alcock & Brown transatlantic which varies from the militery), and the Spirit if St Louis. Novo released a military version some years back. Hope this helps Bill B. Bill Bacon wbacon@netjava.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 08:54:54 -0500 From: mbittner@juno.com To: wwi Subject: Latest OtF Message-ID: <19970518.085455.16374.0.mbittner@juno.com> I've been meaning to send this out. I received my copy of Vol 12 No 01 of Over the Front Thursday. I'm calling this the "Stewaret Taylor" issue since not only does he edit it, but 7/8ths of the articles are his. Not much for modeling content, except for an excellent by Bob Pearson called "What's in a Name?". Basically, he's been researching and drawing a/c in 1/48th and this is he first article showing what he has done. All a/c profiled have a name associated with it. Three of them are color plates on the back cover. These are an Albatros D.III, an Aviatik D.I and a Sopwith Baby. Pretty neato. Other than that, the articles are about US and Canadians in training - basically. Matt mbittner@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 10:30:06 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Italian resin (and Italian kits) Message-ID: Carlos, please note my interest for the 1/48 Ca when available - I will certainly buy one - only question would be how? On a related subject - I am holidaying in Italian Lakes area (Garda) in July (yes D'Annunzio willbe visited) - anybody know if there is any model shop worth visiting in Verona (or maybe Milano or Venezia - I've been to both before but didn't come across anything then). Maybe Franco might know of anything? TIA Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 10:43:26 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Review of Aeroclub 1/48 R.E.8 Message-ID: On Sat, 17 May 1997, Alberto Rada wrote: > I agree that there are several things missing and other like > the Instrument Panel could be done in a more updated Technique, > ala Eduard. But the kit all in all is quite good, and all the main > parts are on range and quite well done. > On the price, well lets compare it with Waldo, where you are not > getting a third of what you are on this kit. > With the exodus we are having on WW1 Manufacturers, this is > one of the last I would like to see quitting. Absolutely Alberto, I said when I summarised the magazine for the list a month ago that I thought the RE8 review was jaundiced. I think the kit is splendid - lovely fuselage stitching etc - Ok so we could do with a brass fret. I saw John Adams' own RE8 last weekend and I almost dropped the Strutter to start the RE8 right away it looked so mean. Big, beautiful, broken-backed beast! (The RE8 not John!) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 10:15:59 +0100 (BST) From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: 1/72 RE-8? Message-ID: On Sat, 17 May 1997 DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > 1/72 Bristol F2B? > 1/72 RE8? > Somebody get on the phone and call Chris Gannon! > Sorry, no can do! I've already told him that this comprehensive international list has agreed pretty unanimously that 1/48 is the only way to go with only one or two minor exceptions of no great significance. I even told him we have incontrovertable theological proof that 1/48 is the favoured scale of the Gods and perseverance in manufacture of idols in the false scale of 1/72 will result in thunderbolts in his injection equipment. I believe he has now seen the error of his ways and will henceforth apply his talents to 1/48 Camels and Whales and the like. Sensible man. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 11:21:03 -0400 From: Geoff Smith To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Vickers Vimy Info Message-ID: <199705181121_MC2-16D6-563@compuserve.com> >Leonard Endy wrote: > > While looking over the tables at a local contest yesterday I found a 1/72 > scale Vickers Vimy. Never saw it before and really did not see much else so > I bought it, $12.00. It appears to have been manufactured in Poland. No > info is provided in any other language. I could not find any markings on > the moldings that might shed some light on it's origins....anyone have any > info on this kit?< And Bill B. replied: >Years ago Frog did a Vimy in a pioneers set containing thr Southern >Cross, The Vickers Vimy (Alcock & Brown transatlantic which varies from >the militery), and the Spirit if St Louis. Novo released a military >version some years back. >Hope this helps Going back to my youth, probably about 1959/60, I remember building a Vimy. It was moulded in olive green, had slender struts and if memory serves the plastic was more brittle than I was used to. It may well have been Frog but I have the impression it was of American origin. It definitely wasn't part of a set though. At the time I was very impressed as it was the first biplane I'd ever tried and I finished it (though without painting it). My six pennorth, Geoff. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 08:37:47 -0700 From: Michelle and Rory Goodwin To: wwi Subject: Nieuport Jones (was Vickers Vimy Info) Message-ID: <337F224B.6923@ricochet.net> Leonard Endy wrote: > > Lots of old 1/72 kits from Airfix, Revell, ESCi were available at cheap > prices. Just in case anyone on the list doesn't yet know, I'd pay up to $6.00 (or ?) US plus shipping for any Revell Nie. 17s (or Airfix Hannovers) spottted at shops, shows, swap meets etc. I can also offer kits/books in trade. Apologies for taking up bandwidth with this. Riordan P.S. I know I'm obsessed, but darn it, I'm a 'good' person and I deserve a Revell Nieup! -- Shelley and Riordan Goodwin Visit our websites: Riordan's Wings of Revolution: http://www.serve.com/rgoodwin Shelley's Jewelry Gifts: http://www.silkroadjewels.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 17:02:18 -0700 From: Tom Werner Hansen To: wwi Subject: Re: Vickers Vimy Info Message-ID: <337F988A.58E1@sn.no> Leonard Endy wrote: > > While looking over the tables at a local contest yesterday I found a 1/72 > scale Vickers Vimy. Never saw it before and really did not see much else so > I bought it, $12.00. It appears to have been manufactured in Poland. No > info is provided in any other language. I could not find any markings on > the moldings that might shed some light on it's origins....anyone have any > info on this kit? > I think it's the Ex-Frog - Ex-Novo kit, I've built one, and have another one waiting. The one I built was done before this list made me see the light, so I don't really know anything about the accuracy of the kit. I made an all-silver RAF model from Mesopotamia ca. 1923, looks very nice, can be turned into the Alcock and Brown machine, I suppose. Tom W. Hansen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 16:54:17 -0700 From: Tom Werner Hansen To: wwi Subject: Resin casting for novices. Message-ID: <337F96A9.6861@sn.no> Resin casting - for the novice Some time ago I downloaded an excellent article on resin casting by Bill Rittner, very detailed, very helpful. It added quite a bit to my own experience of resin casting. I'm sure that by following the instructions one would get excellent results every time. But complete novices to casting might get a little experience, and also learn how useful this can be by copying what I did when I needed to make a cone de penetration for my Nieuport 17. 1. Get hold of some ordinary polyester resin + the curing agent. I used the same I use to fix my glassfibre boat. Very small outlay of money in case you find this is not the way to go. 2. Raid a family member's supply of plasticine, or buy your own if you have to. Now you're all set to duplicate whatever simple little thing you're going to make. My project meant delving into the spares for a drop-tank that had a tip that matched the cone de penetration. An old f-84 1/48 drop tank was pretty close. 3. Knead the plasticine so that it's fairly soft, flatten one side by pressing it against tha table. 4. Push the master into the plasticine untill the impression matches the size of the whatever you're casting, the drop tank for the c-de-p in my case. (Just to see what kind of detail it is possible to get, I also pushed the engine from the ESCI kit, cut from the cowling and with new cylinder heads added,halfway into the plasticine.) When pulling the master out of the plasticine it is important to pull it straight out, or the mould will be deformed. Optional:You can treat the mould with a slight dusting of baby powder,but in my case this was not really necessary. 5.Mix the resin and the curing agent. When working with the minute quantities you need for this job it's not easy to get the proportions right, but you have a bit of leeway. I use the 'a pinch of this and a double pinch of that-method', totally unscientific, but it works (most of the time) 6.Fill up the female mold, the resin shrinks a little when it cures so put in a little more than you think you need. 7.After the resin has cured, remove it from the plasticine. Some of the plasticine will stick to the casting. This can be removed with some thinner. 8.If you need to work on the casting with a knife, do this as soon as the resin will allow. After a while it will be very hard to cut. That will be the filing stage. My result: in about a half the time it took to write this, I had made 5 cones-de-penetration, in slightly different sizes to make sure that one would be right, plus a very nice replica of the engine that had taken me a coiple of hours to modify from the kit engine. If I get hold of another Ni-17, I will have the engine ready made. This method allows a novice to produce multiple copies of simple shapes in a very short time When you feel comfortable about casting resin, find Bill Rittner's insructions and follow them. I shall need a new engine for my SMER Nieuport 16, and I will probably try to find something from another kit that I can copy in this fashion, either in my simplified way, or by Bill's thorough method. Tom W. 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