WWI Digest 190 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) 14 July 1916, Buc, Paris, Buc again by u1a00518@wvnvm.wvnet.edu 2) Sopwith Hobbies by Alberto Rada 3) Re: Sopwith Hobbies by "Wiliam B. Bacon" 4) asymetric Gotha GVI by breuer@itz-koeln.de (Dietmar Breuer) 5) Re: asymetric Gotha GVI by "Valenciano . Jose" 6) Re: asymetric Gotha GVI by breuer@itz-koeln.de (Dietmar Breuer) 7) Re: asymetric Gotha GVI by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) 8) Re: asymetric Gotha GVI by "Valenciano . Jose" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:21:49 -0400 From: u1a00518@wvnvm.wvnet.edu To: wwi Subject: 14 July 1916, Buc, Paris, Buc again Message-ID: <199607141221.IAA06491@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Good day. French Independence day & therefore a holiday. All given liberty until midnight. Got to Paris on excuse to see Capt Parker. Got in at noon, had dinner and walked along boulevards to enjoy the crowds. Called on Capt Parker about 4. Found he was out but had tea with Mrs Parker. Will take dinner with them Sunday. What will he say when I confess I'm a deserter from the U.S.N.? About the streets until about 10:30. Then came out to Buc feeling lonely for Gertrude. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:38:28 -0400 (AST) From: Alberto Rada To: wwi Subject: Sopwith Hobbies Message-ID: <199607142338.TAA19255@fw.true.net> Good news for those of us that live in this part of the world, Sopwith Hobbies has just entered the WWW their e-mail address is: SOPWITH@worldnet.att.net For those who don't know them, this is a relatively new mail order hobby shop ! ! ! specialized in WW I ! ! ! , that's all they carry, they have a very good stock of goodies and also they will go all the way to try to help a client, so there you are. Saludos Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 22:14:31 -0500 From: "Wiliam B. Bacon" To: wwi Subject: Re: Sopwith Hobbies Message-ID: <31E9B797.279F@genesis.net> Alberto, Do they have web page similar to Squadron? If they do, I'll bet most of would like to have their URL. Thanks for the info. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:49:23 +0100 (WET DST) From: breuer@itz-koeln.de (Dietmar Breuer) To: wwi Subject: asymetric Gotha GVI Message-ID: <199607150649.HAA07823@ns.itz-koeln.de> Hello everyone, as I visited a hobby-shop in Essen on Saturday I told the owner (Mr. Schorsch) about this list.He has no access to the internet and so he asks me to put two questions on it. Who has drawings or unpublished photos of the asymetric Gotha G VI ? Who has drawings or unpuplished photos of the french REP planes ? I could not help him at all, but he needs some more photos to complete the design of new Classic-Plane 1:72 kits. (Mr Schorsch IS Classic Plane). Maybe you want to contact him directly, here is the adress: Modellbaustudio Rhein/Ruhr=20 Krayer Strasse 10 45276 Essen Tel.: (49) (0) 201 / 50 09 12 Fax.:(49) (0) 201 / 50 00 40 By the way are the scale kits of the CSR company Eduard (Sopwith Baby, strip Fokker E III both 1:72 with photo etched parts) or the russian company Maquette (Sikorsky Ilya Mourumetz, injection moulded 1:72 ) known in your part of the world.=20 I hope you can help him Dietmar ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Dietmar Breuer =20 Informationstechnik-Zentrum K=F6ln Eupener Stra=DFe 150 50933 K=F6ln Tel: 0221 - 49707 24 =20 Fax: 0221 - 49707 12 EMail: breuer@itz-koeln.de =20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:39:59 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: asymetric Gotha GVI Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Dietmar Breuer wrote: > Who has drawings or unpublished photos of the asymetric Gotha G VI ? What was assymetric here? Just the fuselage pathway? (Of course it was) Or were the wings assymetrical too ?!?! If you're referring to the GIV with the assy. fuse. pathway, then I've got drawings from Windsock's superb Datafile Special, Gotha! > Who has drawings or unpuplished photos of the french REP planes ? These planes I know nothing about. > I could not help him at all, but he needs some more photos to complete the > design of new Classic-Plane 1:72 kits. (Mr Schorsch IS Classic Plane). Not 1/48? Rats! > By the way are the scale kits of the CSR company Eduard (Sopwith Baby, strip > Fokker E III both 1:72 with photo etched parts) or the russian company > Maquette (Sikorsky Ilya Mourumetz, injection moulded 1:72 ) known in your > part of the world.=20 Well, I do make Eduard stuff, but in 1/48. ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:07:17 +0100 (WET DST) From: breuer@itz-koeln.de (Dietmar Breuer) To: wwi Subject: Re: asymetric Gotha GVI Message-ID: <199607150807.JAA07920@ns.itz-koeln.de> Joey Valenciano wrote: >If you're referring to the GIV with the assy. fuse. pathway, then I've got >drawings from Windsock's superb Datafile Special, Gotha! I am not referring to the Gotha G IV but to the Gotha G VI, which was really asymetric (fuselage too). I have never seen photos of it but mr Schorsch has one or two. he told me it lookes similar to the WWII german asymetric Blohm und Voss ( I think it was the BV 152(?), there was an Airfix 1:72 scale kit). The Gotha GVI had two propellers (one pushing one pulling), the pushing propeller was on the rear of the cockpit gondola, the pulling propellor on the front of the structure which held the rudders. Neither this structure nor the cockpit-gondola were centered. Thats all I have heard about it. Dietmar ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Dietmar Breuer =20 Informationstechnik-Zentrum K=F6ln Eupener Stra=DFe 150 50933 K=F6ln Tel: 0221 - 49707 24 =20 Fax: 0221 - 49707 12 EMail: breuer@itz-koeln.de =20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:32:04 -0700 From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer) To: wwi Subject: Re: asymetric Gotha GVI Message-ID: <199607150732.AA15039@ednet1.orednet.org> Dietmar wrote: >I am not referring to the Gotha G IV but to the Gotha G VI, which was really >asymetric (fuselage too). I have never seen photos of it but mr Schorsch has >one or two. he told me it lookes similar to the WWII german asymetric Blohm >und Voss ( I think it was the BV 152(?), there was an Airfix 1:72 scale >kit). Actually, the Blohm und Voss BV 141 - a -truly Teutonic aircraft if ever there were one! :-) Although, Blohm und Voss may have had the patent on truly weird WW2 German aircraft - the BV 40, BV 155 and the BV 238 were weird to the extreme as well while the BV 138 and BV 222 were at least slightly strange. Ah, well, what do you expect when you've got a -ship building company- getting into the aircraft business? The Gotha GVI had two propellers (one pushing one pulling), the >pushing propeller was on the rear of the cockpit gondola, the pulling >propellor on the front of the structure which held the rudders. Neither this >structure nor the cockpit-gondola were centered. >Thats all I have heard about it. Well, this is a new 'un on me - yet with the generally weird stuff the Germans were trying during the last year of WW I, I'd not dismiss anything out of hand. Please enlighten me as well if anyone knows anything of such a strange creation. But, while I don't have it handy, I don't recall any such aircraft in the book "The German Giants" and there were some -very- strange aircraft in there. Cheers, -- Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org "Never go in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:58:39 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: "Valenciano . Jose" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: asymetric Gotha GVI Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Dietmar Breuer wrote: > I am not referring to the Gotha G IV but to the Gotha G VI, which was really > asymetric (fuselage too). I have never seen photos of it but mr Schorsch has > one or two. he told me it lookes similar to the WWII german asymetric Blohm > und Voss ( I think it was the BV 152(?), there was an Airfix 1:72 scale > kit). The Gotha GVI had two propellers (one pushing one pulling), the > pushing propeller was on the rear of the cockpit gondola, the pulling > propellor on the front of the structure which held the rudders. Neither this > structure nor the cockpit-gondola were centered. > Thats all I have heard about it. Wow! This I gotta see. (and make?) ********************************************************************* Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician, joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist tel. (632) 921-26-75 Metro-Manila, Philippines "The more you know, the more you don't know." ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 190 *********************